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NOVEMBER 4, 2009 11:21AM

"Tea Baggers," Lose Big On Tuesday

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Yesterday, one year after the election of Barack Obama, Republicans won the governorships in Virginia and New Jersey.  Many on the right view this is a repudiation of President Obama and his policies, and they may very well be correct. 

But Tuesday's elections were also a repudiation of the "Glenn Beck, birther, Sarah Palin, tea bagger, Rush Limbaugh,  Joe The Unlicensed Plumber," wing of the GOP.

Bob McDonnell and Chris Christie, the newly elected governors of Virginia and New Jersey respectively, are mainstream conservatives who avoided Sarah Palin like the plague. Neither candidate took Mrs. Palin up on her offer to stump for them, presumably deciding that the risk was greater than the reward.

The one candidate who wholeheartedly embraced Palin, Glenn Beck, et al, was Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate for Congress (NY23).  A few days ago Hoffman, in an interview with Glenn Beck, told him that he would look to Beck for advice and considered him to be a mentor.

Hoffman lost.

The 23rd district of New York will be represented by Democrat Bill Owens.  This is the first time that the GOP has not represented this district since the Civil War.  (Yes, the Abe Lincoln Civil War, not the annual Oregon-Oregon State football game).

But the GOP is calling this a victory too.  They are thrilled that they knocked a moderate Republican, Dede Scozzafava, out of the race.  Scozzafava has a solid conservative voting record except on the issues of gay marriage and abortion. 

In the "old days" you claimed victory when you actually won.  The district that was represented by a Republican (for 130 years) is now represented by a Democrat. Nancy Pelosi has a new member.  John Boehner lost one.  Strange victory indeed.

The GOP did well, especially upending Jon Corzine of New Jersey, but it was the old fashioned, mainstream GOP that won. You know, the GOP that moderates and liberals can actually stomach.

Mainstream conservatism won big on Tuesday in New Jersey and Virginia. This may be a harbinger of things to come. Time will tell.

Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and the "tea baggers" lost big on Tuesday.  This also may be a harbinger of things to come. Time will tell.

 

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True dat. If Scozzafava had received her votes and Hoffman's, the district would have continued to have been represented by a moderate Republican. Their loss.
Lumps in their tea. Although I'm sure they'll all be claiming victory today.
It's the extremists on either side that get the big changes done, but now is the time for some moderation and cooperation between the parties. Once the nation gets back on track then we can push the extremist agendas again.
That is what I say. This is the news, but they will spin it.
I have wondered why no one has focused on this. "Republicans Sweep Elections" What sweep? Two major state elections is a sweep now? I need to update my resume.

I'm more than sated that Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, etc didn't win this one and the people of that community decided to vote for someone who actually cares about its inhabitants.
True Tom. Simple math.

Frank, they are claiming victory in NY23.

rw, Now might be the time for cooperation between the parties, but do you see that happening?

stellaa, the spin is on.

Thanks all.
Julie, I don't know why this isn't getting more attention in the mainstream press. The loud voices always drown out the others I guess.
Anyone up there that would have voted for Hoffman would have been a total fool, regardless of affiliation. I hope Palin, Armey, Beck, Limbaugh and the rest of them keep up the good work for years to come. They are the best Democrats we have. Now, If we don't see some job creation pretty soon, the Dems are going to take an ass whipping about this time next year. That will be the key to winning big or breaking even.
i would like to see Obama step up the stimulus release or readjust it to get some of these jobs going. We can't wait much longer.
Roger, forgive me. I am going to do a cut and paste of a comment I made on another writer's site, because I think the same thing can be said here. I agree with your take on this.

I think there is another take on yesterday's races.
First, it is no big shake that the Governors races in both states went opposite the party in the White House. That is a long standing tradition. Second, to Corzine. I think it could be looked at as a repudiation of Wall Street. Both Corzine and Bloomburg have spent of their OWN MONEY in the last 2 election cycles $400million. Yet Corzine lost and Bloomburg, despite his supposed popularity and his opponent spending, oh, something on the order of the cost of a Big Mac, barely won. I think voters were repudiating Wall Street more than endorsing Republicans.
In Virginia, Deeds ran by all accounts a very bad race. McDonnell, who has all his career pushed a very conservative agenda, won by moving to the middle and away from his true stripe. This should scare, not bolster the R-Party.
Factor McDonnell in with the NY 23rd and what do you get? A broken R-Party that cannot compete realistically within the confines of its current idealogic control, that of the neo-cons (an interesting term that seems to have fallen out of favor these days).
So if I'm a D, I am a little concerned about the losses and what they may mean for the 2010 census and redistricting. But if I'm an R, I see no reason to celebrate what are essentially lukewarm repudiations of the status quo.
Michael, I agree. Obama was elected because "W" was a dismal failure. If "W" had been even a decent president Obama would not have won. Bush made Obama.

You're right though, if the jobs don't come, and if people don't feel better about their own wallets, John Boehner may become Speaker. Yikes.
Tim, great points. Wall Street lost big too... and they should.
Hoffman's loss validates my faith in everything not Palin. ~R~
Hoffman lost? Ha! Best news I've had all day. Thanks for the update.
Of course the GOP declared "victory" in the NY race. They always declare victory: "Heads I win, tails I WIN!!" is their motto.

It's called spin, not truth.
They are spinning big time.
I sincerely and deeply hope that the defeat of the tea baggers is a harbinger of things to come. Too much attention has been given to these people who clearly have lost any kind of objectivity. Great post Roger.
Did you see the Daily Show last night? They did a segment where some newscasters were spinning (last night) what they'd be spinning this morning. It's hilarious to me that supposedly responsible journalists are taking yesterday's elections as some kind of seismic shift, a massively meaningful referendum on what's going to happen in 2010 and even 2012. Hope springs eternal in the hearts of the eternally disgruntled.
They will be claiming victory.... sadly.

I also feel badly about Maine not winning the marriage/love vote. tsk tsk on them!
Anyone sees a trend in these elections it looking up their own rear trend.
We must all thank Mssr. Hoffman for tipping his hand to Beck. Some Repubs really are concerned small business owners and rational people. Seeing this on Fox must have cemented their feelings that the Dem would best serve their interests this term over a Rand-Ranter. Nicely done as it will serve the Prez as well if only for the moment. LiberFreeMktarians ideas are complete insanity, the odd combination of elite nostalgia for the days of the US Barons and revolt against the equally corrupt USSR beuracracy. The obvious conclusion, that they both suck and a mixed and regulated system is needed for such a complex apparatus is simply mandatory, as history repeatedly explains ...

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Roger, do you recall your comment that you were sick of politics? The teabagger comment is over the line, but at least I know that you are really just a simple liar. Nothing more, nothing less.
Hoffman was just creeeeeeepy.
What you have to wonder is if the Hoffman campaign is more a sign of the times than anything else. The Republicans split into two parties, the original GOP and then new Conservative Republicans of America Party. And will this be what the 2012 election is really like? I think the Republicans are going to repeat the 1912 disaster, and right on schedule.
Republicans won NJ, VA and NYC. They lost NY-23. Big deal. Some unknown candidate from the Conservative Party (I didn't even know there was such a party) managed to get, what, 45% of the vote? Scazza-whatever was a RINO. She endorsed the Democrat. That is beyond being a "moderate".

What conservatives are happy about is that some unknown candidate from the CP defeated what would have been a bad Republican congresswoman. We don't need another Olympia Snowe that can be used in the name of "bi-partisanship" by the Democrats.

The NJ win is big for us. VA is back to being a red state. Obama pushed hard for NJ. I heard the robo-calls he did in NJ. Very presidential. He lost. And he'll lose again.
John, I'm not sure which NYC race you're talking about. Bloomberg left the Republican Party in 2007. I agree that the R's had a good night. My point is that the extreme right wing did not have a good night. You can spin NY23 anyway you'd like, but Palin, Beck, Armey, Pawlenty, made it a national story... and Hoffman lost. Yes, the R's had a good night.

Poorsinner101, yes I remember saying that I was sick of politics, and I still am, but it's still a major part of our lives, so if by choosing to comment on it makes me a liar, so be it.

The point of this piece is that the Republican Party, in spite of what Limbaugh says, does better when they don't act like extremists. The same is true for the Dems, or we would have seen President Kucinich by now.

Thanks all for your reads and comments.
Glad the people decided against that guy, why would any sane person take Glen Beck as a mentor?
Hoffman was also the object of cultish admiration from Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter, both of whom were beyond themselves in comparing Hoffman to that other rogue warrior, Sarah Palin.

But, according to the biggest paper in the district, based out of Watertown, Hoffman spectacularly blew an interview, one in which he chose to ignore the local issues and instead spew invective about his views on his far-right conservative values. Big mistake.

Hmm...no wonder Hoffman lost.
You know, though.. Palin doesn't consider it a defeat. She calls it a fluke and that they will take it back in 2010.
As you say, time will tell.
(Great writing!)
~rated