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DECEMBER 5, 2008 6:01PM

My Worst Job: A Night with Ozzy Osbourne (& Sharon)

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Yours Truly and Ozzy at the Waldorf Hotel, NY, 1997.
I may look happy, but that's not a real smile, it's rictus.

(Note the size of his hands and my effort to keep them at bay).

"Though many bands have succeeded in earning the hatred of parents and media worldwide throughout the past few decades, arguably only such acts as Alice Cooper, Judas Priest and Marilyn Manson have tied the controversial record of Ozzy Osbourne." Barry Weber and Greg Prato, All Music Guide

Let's get a few things straight up front. No matter the title of this post, I never worked as a hooker for Ozzy Osbourne (or anybody else). I am not a Black Sabbath groupie. It wasn't an overnight. It was an evening, and Sharon was there too. The job wasn't about sex. It was a long, long, excruciatingly long interview with Ozzy on AOL.

I did get your attention, though. And the title is still true.

Actually, it was a job within a job. I was AOL's community guru. In 1997 I started working with AOL Entertainment to help capitalize on the highest user traffic and marketable content on the service.

I was (am) far from enamored with pop or rock stars, but as a former media producer, I was tapped to organize and produce Ozzy's first public interview in years -- an AOL online chat.

The purpose was to kick off his umpteenth comeback Ozzfest tour and a new CD. AOL was huge back then. Ozzy's "people" wisely chose AOL for his first interview because his fans couldn't actually hear or see him.

Believe me, it was a smart move.

For those not familiar with the venue, AOL users entered a special chatroom called AOL Live. They were assigned 'rows' which allowed them to talk chatroom style, only with people in that row.

At the top of the chat window was the 'stage' which showed two names, HOST and, in this case, OZZY O. Users could click on a popup form and enter a question for Ozzy. We'd cherry-pick the best questions.

HOST would type a question which appeared on the 'stage', "Betty1234 wants to know how hard is it to tour and do you ever forget what city you're in?"

OZZY O (through the person typing for him) would answer, "I don't even know what city I'm in now, Luv."

Ozzy's chat was the second hardest I ever produced. You'll have to guess the hardest. (Hint: big and purple). Degree of difficulty includes the celebrity's intelligence/ability to respond plus the make-up of the audience and number and tone of questions coming in from users.

Ozzy's fans were, well, you know, Goth. Icky. Young. Definitely stoned.

As a Boomer, the prospect of dealing with those fans was not my personal idea of Nirvana. The feeling, not the group.

The Famous Ozzy Back Story
I'm seriously anti heavy metal and the only thing I knew about Ozzy is too disgusting to repeat.

Oh, okay, I'll tell, but remember, you asked for it.

Ozzy's "people" had only one ironclad stipulation about the interview: there would be no questions about bats. If you know what that means, you're smiling -- or gagging.

If you're confused, here's the story: in the 1980's Ozzy and Black Sabbath were hard core alcohol and drug abusers. There were rumors of Satanism. During a now notorious concert, a fan threw a live bat onto the stage. Ozzy grabbed it and bit its head off. Yes, really.

(Real back story: Ozzy thought it was a fake bat, immediately started to vomit and staggered offstage. Fans went crazy thinking it was part of the show. In reality handlers had to cancel the show and get Ozzy to the nearest hospital for a series of painful rabies vaccinations.)

Even knowing the truth about the bat legend, I was pretty creeped out by the idea of meeting Ozzy in person. Not looking forward to spending time with a bizarre zonked out hard rocker. Especially since it was my job to help him connect with his fans on AOL.

A challenge, to say the least. But I love a challenge. Usually.


sharon o 
Sharon Osbourne (yes, really, before her transformation), left and Downtown Julie Brown

Meeting Ozzy
As a devoted fan of The Boss, Bob Dylan and Motown, the prospect of meeting Ozzy Osbourne was decidedly underwhelming.

We met in a deluxe penthouse atop New York's posh Waldorf Astoria Hotel. 'Downtown Julie Brown' --one of MTV's original VJ's-- was supposed to be the interviewer.

The interview was planned to set up the next day's announcement of the new tour while Ozzy signed his new CD, The Ozzman Cometh for fans at a midtown Tower Records.

Expecting the worst, I was surprised when a pleasant, squeaky clean man in a navy velour Adidas track suit, complete with fanny pack, wandered into the room and rather diffidently asked is this AOL and does anyone have a Pepsi and an ashtray.

We'd set up a round table with two laptops. I would type the intro, Julie the questions and a kid from AOL's New Yor office Ozzy's answers. We quickly added bottles of Pepsi and several ashtrays for Ozzy's omnipresent Marlboro Lights.

While we chatted before the interview I was struck by three things. Ozzy's glossy, glorious mane of hair. His name tattooed on his multi-ringed fingers. And his quiet, quirky but undeniable charm. Yes, really.

The Ozzy AOL Interview
Somebody forgot to find out if 'Downtown Julie Brown' could type. She couldn't. And without scripted cue cards, couldn't conduct an interview either. So I jumped in to do both while she sat next to Ozzy, poured his Pepsi and chain-lit his cigarettes.

As the online interview progressed it became clear he's not all there. It was absolute hell to pull coherent answers from him. (In truth, Sharon gave more than a few to the Ozzy typist along the way). But the little brain power and personality that remains is that of a talented man with charisma to spare.

If you've seen him as the befuddled father in the MTV reality series The Osbournes, and paid some attention to the words between the expletive-deleted beeps, you know what I mean.

He is incredibly profane. I had to think fast to quickly type around every possible curse word in the English language. But he's also smart. And witty. He's totally devoted to--and dependent upon--Sharon. And he holds no illusions about his checkered past, its effect on his children, and on other people's children too.

He spoke candidly about his former drug and alcohol abuse and urged his fans not to make the same mistakes. In fact, one of his best lines came in answer to a question about the extent of his drug use.

"My drug use? Well, Luv, if they ever dropped a nuclear bomb on New York," Ozzy said. "The only things left alive would be cockroaches, Keith Richards and me."

Not a pretty picture. But a great image. As you might glean from the picture above--one of the many he graciously posed for in addition to signing studio photos for us and our kids--Ozzy Osbourne clean and sober is actually a pretty nice guy.

But I don't ever want to spend a night with him again.

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Ozzy Osbourne ... bump ... bump ... bump
I went to an Ozzy Concert this summer. It was actually quite enjoyable. He was admitted to the hospital after too. Seems to be an on-going trend.

Even though you don't want to spend the night with him again, it was an interesting opportunity that few people get to take part of.
You know, your worst doesn't sound so bad.....

But then again, I'm an indie rock chick, so what do I know?
Sharon either has the patience of a saint or is as batpoo crazy as he is.

Probably both.

(thumbified as the Craaaaaazy Train speed by)
Masher, you and I obviously have different taste in music. But I respect yours. (ugh ;)
Crazy isn't the same as um, indie, Liz.
Lodi, Sharon was chubby and acted like his mother. Didn't look or act anything like she does today. I've been trying to find-and will post-the pics I have with her.

Guys, don't you love Ozzy's quote at the end?
As a kid, I was a Black Sabbath fan. I saw them in 1970, I think, and can attest to Ozzy being foul-mouthed even then. The band did NOT play well that night! One of the worst concerts I ever saw, but I remained a fan, anyway. At least you found out that he's a pretty nice guy. I'd have to agree with Liz, your worst doesn't sound that bad.
;-)
No matter the title of this post, I never worked as a hooker for Ozzy Osbourne (or anybody else)

Well that's just flat out disappointing.
Ha! I grew up on a variety of music, and Sabbath made up some of it. Ozzy always struck me as a strung-out incoherent moron, so I'm pleased to see that I was only 2/3 right. :-D

I love his last quote there - I honestly think that he and Keith would survive stuff even the cockroaches couldn't.

Big thumb, Sally. Loved this tale.
Never been an Oz fan, but I get what you're describing here, Sally. Very compassionate and very real. Doesn't sound like such a bad gig to me, though. Except maybe for trying to keep those big hands at bay.
You can tell he is very smart and quite visceral in the way he conducts his daily routine. He has been given the nod by a number of producers and that's a miracle in itself.

Wow.....Sally, what an experience,......and you survived to write about it! Great piece!!!!
I'll admit that I kinda like the guy. And I'm a little bit envious of your cool job.
Thumbed for hard core rock n roll!
Sally, I know we seem to cross paths, but not this time. Odetta is prettier than Ozzy.

You are fun, among many great things.
Fascinating, and I'm sure more fun to read than it was to be there.
Not much of an Ozzy fan myself, but very much enjoyed your writing about him and your interview.
Ozzy is very intelligent. Most of the cats that make it for forty years in the business are smart. Keith Richards is a genius. Bob Dylan, still a genius. Neil Young, genius. All did a ton of drugs. Three of these four you can barely understand, guess which one stopped using the earliest? Yeah, Young. He's beyond brilliant to me.

Ozzy is more brilliant because of Sharon. She made him after Black Sabbath. He owes MOST of his post Sabbath career to Sharon. She's the super genius behind the semi-genius.

I've talked to people who met him stone cold sober (didn't think that time existed???) and they said he was a lovely man. Profane, yes, lovely too.

GREAT post!!!!
LOVED IT! Rated ten times. :-)
Downtown Julie Brown can't type? I'm shocked. Fun post, and a nice story for your future grand kids.

I have a Keith Richards story. Want to hear it?
Keith Richards walks into a bar to order a drink.
Bartender : What can I get you?

KR: weh ya kno mite a mite tek a berorburbn or bof heeheheehehhheeh (COUGH) (drag)
Very fun post. I know what you mean though.

I've worked some concert venues that would have been great from the audience, but were hell backstage. George Clinton comes to mind. One moment I was sleeping in an exhausted stupor backstage ( yes with a full volume concert) and the next I was hauled onstage to serve as a bouncer because people were crazy stoned and rushing the stage- all 120 pounds os me held onto the onstage monitors for dear life with one hand and shoved people back off the stage with the other.
Your remark about Ozzie's beautiful hair reminds me of one of my grandmother's favorite put-downs, one she used long before there was an Ozzie: "He's got nice hair -- too bad he's foolish." One older dedicated health nut professed that his one goal left in life was to outlive Keith Richard. I suspect he'd feel the same about Ozzie.
I came over to your post from your comment posted on Lea’s site regarding Odetta.

One thing is on one hand the similarities as well as the contrast of the two. From watching Ozzy on his infamous TV show you got the impression that he was a bit modest, like Odetta. Also that he was approachable, as was Odetta. The contrast comes in their music and education given each in life.

Ozzie education appears to have been that of the Rock and Roll lifestyle. Excess piled on more excess which lead to more excess and damaged intellect. An intellect that might have at one time been there, but has since taken wing, only to come back in for a landing on occasions and then gone again.

Odettas was that of the folk and civil rights communities. Close relationships even with those who she only knew for a fleeting time. Verses stoned out days and nights wondering who was there and where you were.

You sang along with Odetta, you listened to what she talked about between songs. You came away with a warm feeling that all in life was worth living the next day. It was from one woman with a voice that rung true and through you, cutting to the core. Powerful lyrical, a woman of color who could command attention without a light show, pyrotechnics, outrageous theatrics and loud power cords. This was Odetta, she was folk music personified.

I saw Odetta more than once, I never saw Black Sabbath or Ozzie. I don’t miss either, but I can say I would have felt I missed an important part of my life if I missed Odetta.
He thought the bat was fake! That fact alone made this a great piece. But add the Keith Richards line AND the authenticity that runs through ALL of it---and I love this.

GREAT piece Sally!
Sally, this is great! You continue to amaze with your collection of eclectic acquaintances!
Damn, these comments are better than my post! I am still searching high and low for one particular pic: me, DT Julie brown (complete with ski hat.. don't ask) and Sharon. Not today's Sharon by a country mile.

I do have to say that the way she and Ozzy interacted in that small group could be another post on best love story. Whatever binds them is palpably strong.
LuluandPhoebe, I am 5'5" and look even taller in person. I'm slim, which doesn't show so much in that pic, odd angle I guess. I'm not sure if he was even aware he was trying to grope me (which he really was), it's just his vague, oddly gentle way.

Folkmuse, glad you dropped by. Please don't judge me by this post for goodness sake! It is, after all, about my worst job. Even though I have to admit in retrospect, doing PR on site for Three Mile Island after it blew might have been worse. (Jeez, I just now remembered that!)
Sally! You've had quite a life, haven't you? I don't mind Ozzy even though I can't understand a thing he says, but never did like Downtown Julie Brown. Still, what a gig! Of course, this is coming from someone whose only contact with a famous person was Mel Fisher (the treasure hunter). Yeah, I'm easily impressed.

Thanks for the fun post!
I met him in the late '80s during the Randy Rhodes Tribute period at a record store. He was incredibly quiet and humble. Nothing like what I expected as a rocker kid, but very good as I look back on it.

Once again, superb read.
Sounds like a memorable night and a great job to me!
I must just dash in here for a second and say no self respecting goth would ever listen to Ozzy.

ahem...

Different species altogether, thank you.
Very funny and great photo. Someone should write a book (you?) titled, "The Ozzie Osbourne/Keith Richards Live Forever Diet!" So what was the hardest interview? Did you post it?