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Sally Swift
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MAY 12, 2009 6:31PM

Edwards, Clinton, Spitzer, More Wives & The Other Woman

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"He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still." Lao Tzu

Thanks to MaryT for the inspiration: Elizabeth Edwards and the Women Who Stand By Their Man - marytkelly

Elizabeth Edwards, Silda Spitzer and Hillary Clinton don't need additional commentary from me to feed the beast. This is about the nature of the beast: addiction. To sex, yes, but more, to Power. Who's got it and who feeds it.

Most politicians are by nature addicted to Power. They need it to survive professionally. And for many, to function personally too. An elected politician's ego usually is, of necessity, huge in order to regularly risk public rejection.

Sure, they get some boost from public acclaim, media coverage, the wheeling and dealing. But for some it's not enough. It's never enough.

So who feeds that inflated ego, the constant itch of the power addiction? Not their wives, who know too much about their flaws and weaknesses and powerless back stories.

The drug of choice in power circles is the pool of women (and men) who insinuate themselves into politics and government to get close to Those In Charge.

Oh yes, they exist. They're called Power Fuckers. And they'll do anything to and for the most powerful men in the land.

From FDR to Eisenhower to JFK and who knows how many others, that's been the reality of power. If today's sordid culture of prying and paparazzi were in place during JFK's day, he'd be the highest scorer of all.

Let's take a minute to remember how high Jackie set the standard of dignity and discretion for political wives. Yes, she became a martyr's widow. But she eventually got even with her late philandering husband in her own special way.

Bill Clinton and his well-documented infidelities, specifically with Monica Letmeinsky, leads the contemporary pack. Hillary, like Jackie, got her payback too. Unique. Ironic. She became a serious power-broker herself.

In today's world the Clinton-Lewinsky affair remains the object lesson du jour for all politicians. For us too. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying that private extramarital sex is not relevant to professional job performance. For politicians, celebrities or the rest of us.

Unless you neglect your job. Or you lie about the sex.

President Clinton was doing his job very well. Bottom line is this: he should never have been asked the question. Nobody should. Man or woman. Period. Whether in the White House or a road house, it's personal.

Infidelity among us common folk is about a lot of things, anger, self-image, self-esteem, dissatisfaction with a spouse, a marriage.

The dynamic of opportunity is added to celebrity circles. Movie stars, rock stars, we know all about their legions of groupies and the Cult of Celebrity. Getting behind the velvet rope. "I'm with the band."

There's an even more seductive dynamic among political groupies. A special breed of power vampires. Far beyond merely getting behind the rope line. Power-by-association. 'I'm with The Man.'

bill, monica, crowd

To anyone, but especially men with real power, attractive people throwing themselves at them goes with the territory. Can be a major turn-on. It's tough to resist reaching out for such low hanging fruit, no matter how forbidden.

My peripatetic career includes working in politics from the State House to the White House. I've seen firsthand how enticing Political Power can be. And how willingly young women (young men too) offer themselves sexually to their powerful superiors. I'm not proud to admit I've been there myself.

Power is an incredible aphrodisiac. During the sex act, yes... BUT, the big payoff for the political groupie comes after the fact. (Okay, unavoidable pun). Think about it. What did Monica Lewinsky get out of the play-acting sex and fake 'relationship' with Bill Clinton? A cigar? Sheesh. No cigar.

A recycled book of poetry? Please. She was the one on her knees. She did the work, sex-wise. Trust me, she was, at the time, in power-fucker heaven, totally turned on by the fact she was, ohmigod, ohmigod, doing the President of the United States.

There's another aspect about that whole mess that's just wrong. It's bad enough Republican hypocrites used the Clinton-Lewinsky affair to further their own agendas at the country's expense. I was just as tired of feminist bleating about Bill Clinton's sexual harassment of a poor little intern.

It. Didn't. Happen. Their affair wasn't about sexual harassment, it was about sexual dalliance. And the pull of power.


bill and monica

Monica was more than a willing participant, she was an instigator. What, their eyes met across a crowded room ...and... kismet? Give me a break. She put herself in his path. Probably climbed over others to get there.

L'affair Lewinsky was wildly inappropriate behavior by the president, but not harassment.  Lewinsky's job was never in jeopardy. Her reputation was ... ironically at her own hand.

Bill Clinton certainly rocked his marriage, but the only person who damaged Ms. Lewinsky was Ms. Lewinsky herself, with her inability to keep her mouth shut, on and off the job. She couldn't bear to keep the details of the affair discretely to herself.

She had to brag. They all have to brag. There's no point in having sex with a powerful politician if you can't tell your friends about it. Revel in their envy and awe. That's the main draw. The telling, more than the doing.

In Monica's case, her undoing. And therefore the president's too. Monica bragged to the wrong "friend," the bitchy, c-word Linda Tripp, with power and other issues of her own.

News flash: many politicians have feet of clay, especially when it comes to sex. Often the very best of them. And I say, So what? Our interest should start and stop here: Just get the job done.

Political wives know their husbands far better than we do. Don't think for a minute they're weak, blind sided victims. They knew long before we did. And who knows, maybe it suits them just fine.

In the end, it's none of our business.

If the wives appear not to care, why should we? They also know their husbands have the right stuff, politically. They helped get them elected. They're the ultimate power fuckers.

Many clearly believe that the value-add of their spouse's brains, dedication and ability to make a difference far outweighs the downside doings in their personal lives.

We are SO freakin naive and hypocritical about sex in this country -- Right Wingnuts most of all. We love to talk about sex, hint about it, titillate ourselves with glimpses of it. Especially among the Powerful. We love to point fingers with feigned shock and outrage.

I'm not talking about pedophile priests or congressional sexual harassers, who should be castrated and jailed ... but instead are given protection and pensions.That's far more unforgivable.

I'm talking about powerful men who have affairs with consenting adults. And believe then can get away with it.

That's the fatal flaw in many of our political protagonists. The iron ego and sheer guts it took them to get to the top makes them feel invincible. Untouchable.

Many are untouchable. Except by willing sex partners. And that's what inevitably brings them down.

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Thanks, Mary, you gave me something to chew on...
I agree that it is such a power trip for many of these people. The politicians love to feel that they are desirable to so many people, and the seducers love to feel that they get a--ahem--brush with greatness.
So what? Who really cares? Acts of infidelity are egregious against their partners. The tell all books leave me questioning the authors's motives for writing them. I've had enough of the rehash of while women stay with their men.

Hasn't enough been written already? Does it change anyone's behavior?
In this world, you get away with nothing.
Get. Out. Of. My. Brain.

Sally, I'm SURE we have some Jewish relatives somewhere. Just sayin'.
Delia, you've either been there or I'm very convincing...

OES, everybody who watches Eliz Edwards on Oprah cares, plus all those who eat up every article ever written about famous sex. I'm not trying to change behavior, just explain it a little. Plus what you said, WE shouldn't care.

Stacey, bingo. Every single thing will come around to bite you one way or another.

[Ahem, Mother's Day voice replay: Who's not rating???]
Karin, we might have to agree to disagree. I've worked with a lot of very effective politicians. Character isn't always so black and white. Doesn't mean I condone adultry... not bloodly likely. Just means I've seen it compartmentalized and not affecting the quality of the work. And, as I said, might be an agreement in the marriage we don't know about. (Not Edwards, apparently, but it turns out Jackie deliberately looked away).

Verb, dear, we are as one, somehow. Am convinced. Ask Mothership again.
I don't care anymore about the persona lives in most of there situations. They are adults who have to figure out what works for them.
"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely." And that includes all the hangers-on and loves and all. I do agree in the end it's none of our business, except that some voters don't feel that way and Spitzer and Edwards and Clinton put their party at risk.
Great post - succinct and insightful. I myself wrote on the Edwards, but I guess as I am new I get few views and fewer comments. However, I pointed out that the true victim in the Edwards case may end up being Baby Frances (if it is indeed his baby - and Hunter now is going to do the paternity test as of May 7th). If interested, please see my own (most recent) post at http://open.salon.com/blog/rollinggluestick

Thanks again - good read!
I gotta add my usual: None of us knows what goes on in the marriages. (For ex.: How many sexless marriages are out there? Far more than might be suspected...Really, how many marriages become business/political partnerships?) Tacit agreements among spouses are possible, but I think spouses of "libertines" can be meeting some martydom needs of their own, too. In sum: any marriage is short of ideal. Many people commit adultery. Men in positions of power are hi-visibility targets who, through their behavior, create economic and political incentives for almost everyone, in our paparazzi/media-driven culture, to tattle on them. But ultimately, it's none of our fucking business. Literally.
Sally---you nailed this perfectly. I'm gonna be cynical for a moment and predict low ratings---because this is not titallating or popular. This is the exact opposite of what an EC would be.

But it is TRUE! L:ike Verbal said---"how did you get in my brain!"

Excellent piece.
JK, I'm a little behind the curve this week, want to read your post on this, but clearly we agree, though apparently in the minority.

Lea, you're right, even if we (and possibly their wives too) aren't bothered by philanderers, or rather don't think it interferes with their ability to get the job done, some voters disagree, which is their right. I'm not sure it puts the party at risk... Hillary's candidacy wasn't hurt by Bill but by some big campaign staff miscues. And still she came thisclose to the nomination. I do think a more sympathetic "wronged" spouse like EE rings more morality bells.

And of course it speaks to character, which Karin and others have every reason to expect and want in a leader. I'm simply a realist in that regard. Pristine character is not always a plus in, as Tom Cordle would say, how the sausage is made.

rollinggluestick, I'm coming to read your post also. Sorry, I've been distracted with some family issues lately. Welcome aboard!

donnesflea, excellent point, nobody put the participants really knows the inside of a marriage... and your last sentence says it all.

Roger, I just had to say what I had to say, even if late to the party and not too many came. I would have enjoyed debate too. Many of those whose opinions I value are here, so that's something. And thank you... when you think I got it right then I know I did.
Lewinsky, Schlewinsky. I still haven't recovered from your trip to France. That was awesome!
This is an uniquely insightful post, Sally. I have kind of a soft spot for Monica Lewinsky, who I felt ennobled herself in her Senate testimony. Yet I agree with everything you say here.
You said: " Bottom line is this: he should never have been asked the question" and I nearly jumped out of my chair applauding you.
I ranted and raved this same position throughout the whole debacle. But even more so Sally I maintained that he never should have answered. Quit curling up your finger Bill Clinton I said, point at those headline seeking writers and tell them "Damn it. I'm The President and that's personal. I'm not taking those questions, now let's get back to work."
It seems to me that there is a big divide between "unwitting victim" and accomplice that no one seems willing to address. I don't believe that because you marry someone, that means you sign on and are complicit in everything they might do. A choice to marry someone is NOT a choice to be responsible for their behavior.

I have to agree that while cheating is reprehensible (to me), it does not necessarily follow that everything else a cheating politician (male or female) does in office or out is going to be equally corrupt or tainted. It goes to character, but not necessarily to political decision making or ability to govern. Many times the people with the ego, drive and money to run for office are the types who would cheat anyway.

What I do find curious is Elizabeth Edwards' decision to stay with her husband and then write a book about his infidelity. That seems strange to me, but then again, it doesn't affect me directly so I don't really care.
Steve, I never recovered from that trip and I promise, you'll love Italy too. I got a little distracted and have to get the motor running first. Sex, politics, religion, then back to sex again, k?

Rich, thank you, insight comes from knowing the territory. I have nothing against Monica, I've known so many like her. She was snookered by a supposed "friend," which is hurtful to anybody. But really, if she thought Bubba loved her and would do something about it, phew, that's seriously naive.

aka, we are so on the same page. All during that time I yelled at Bill on TV, "Just tell them it's none of their damn business! Who's got a question about the COUNTRY??" On the other hand, once he decided to talk, all he had to say was "The answer is yes. Any further comment goes to my family. Period."

Emma, I thought I did address the divide between "unwitting victim" and accomplice as much as it can be, given nobody can get inside somebody else's marriage. In my experience political wives are rarely unwitting victims, they know the territory, know the kind of man they've married, either choose denial or, if he's outed, stand by him, as Hillary did (and probably make him pay in private, less for cheating than for getting caught, lying and causing such an uproar).

I'm with you on wondering why Elizabeth Edwards unloaded so much anger at her husband so publicly and is still staying with him, no matter her health.
Yes, yes, yes. It's none of our business what consenting adults do, no matter their job. And as has been said a million times, none of us can know what goes on in someone's marriage.

The intrusiveness of the media feeds a titillated public things that should remain private, between the people involved only. I would like to see politicians refuse to answer questions about their sex lives. "he should never have been asked the question." ...this is exactly what I said at the time.

I'm also tired of the whole villain/victim setup. There may be situations with one person wholly at fault and the other wholly pure, but in human relationships usually it is not that absolute and simple. I don't personally feel that sexual unfaithfulness is necessarily the worse thing that can happen in a marriage. Also, I don't believe that it means that a politician can't be competent and honorable in his job. It's a human mistake/flaw not necessarily a reflection on their entire character.

About Elizabeth Edward's book...it just seems unseemly and tawdry. Stay in the marriage or divorce, but don't drag it all out for us to look at, cluck over and dissect. Dignity would be nice.

It's time for our society to grow up and stop being panting voyeurs and recognize that politicians are only flawed humans that we "hire" for a job. Their private lives should remain so.
rated for bold strokes!
First let me say I would do Monica in front of everyone. Just something about her.

I'm sure that lots of people have things in their marriage that needs to stay between the couple. I'm also sure that there are lots of partners who know what their partner is doing and just looks the other way or it's just not discussed.

And you're right, Bill and all the others should just look at the press and say that's between me and my partner. Bill's problems all started with the famous words "I did not have sex.........."
I agree that job performance has nothing to do with marital fidelity. Absolutely.
"To anyone, but especially men with real power, attractive people throwing themselves at them goes with the territory."

I know, believe me, I know.

Seriously though, you nailed it.
Exactly. You nailed it with this one.

Having played in bands for years, I can confirm the psycho-pathology of groupies or star-fuckers as we called them. Speaking of which -- one place we played provided the band lodging, and I noticed the headboard on my bed had a series of brightly-colored kindergarten stars. When I asked my compliant companion what that was all about, she informed me the "regulars" at the bar used them to rate the performance of the musicians who passed through -- and not for their musical performance.

If sex thrown at you so easily and casually was that overpowering and intoxicating at the bottom of the "fame" heap, and I can well imagine how it gets magnified as you go up the fame/money/power scale.

Another factor that gets overlooked in this dynamic is that men (and women) in high places are subjected to incredible and all but constant stress, and they can't avail themselves of ordinary means of relief. Can you imagine Spitzer trolling for a common street hooker in NYC? Ain't gonna happen.

That's not to excuse him or Clinton or Vitter or Kennedy or anyone else; it's just part of the reality that contributes to things happening that shouldn't. Fellas, if you had the chance to bed Marilyn Monroe and thot no one would ever know, what would you do? Ditto for the ladies and Brad Pitt or George Clooney?

I do fault Clinton, though; given his previous sexual misadventures and exposures, he should have known better than to get involved with a 21 yr-old. But having fucked up, instead of lying like a schoolboy, he should have clammed up and told Newt and the Pseudo-Saints it was none of their god-damn business. And if he was half the politician he thot he was, he would have borrowed a page from LBJ and told Newt if he and his henchmen intended to play that he'd sick Carville on them to do a little investigating into their sexual proclivities.

You saw how quickly things changed in Washington when Larry Flynt put up a million-dollar reward for dirt on the hypocrites. Remember Bob Livingston, the Speaker of the House That Wasn't?
This is great Sally, My late father made many comments on this before he passed. The questions should never have been asked. He never heard of Clinton, but he did know about Kennedy. Many people knew and they never asked the questions, why? Because it had little to do with running things ans served no purpose other than to hurt, damage, and destroy the mans ability to function without distraction from the difficult task at hand. Cookies have been a political perk here for almost as long as the nation. The same applies to other nations as well. Why we spend so much time obsessed with the sexual activity of others is a problem to confound Freud.
Fearless post Sally. Yes, the question should not have been asked, but in a competition like politics, every piece of ammunition will be used. You should see our small town - a guy was making a pretty good run at mayor, and someone dug up a teenage arrest for soliciting a prostitute. They sent a letter about it to every mailbox because as you said, they love to point fingers. Anonymously of course.
Generally speaking, I don't care who a pol of either sex is screwing. It's none of my business. I also don't care about the so-called character issue, other than: Can the person in the job DO the job. That's my bottom line. He or she can fuck chimps as far as I'm concerned. (Ooops, now PETA-philes will be on my case.)

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Hey, Kerry, Thomas, here's the other side, where are you?

The rest of you guys snuck up on me. I'm glad to see so many minds I admire in agreement on this.

Suzn, agreed, and I think the book's as tawdry as the affair. Everybody should just STFU already.

scupper, I like bold strokes, thanks.

Catnlion, have at Monica, just don't TELL me about it! You're right, Bill should have just STFU.

odette, I'm with you but for some it's a character thing and I respect that feeling even if I don't agree with it.

Cap'n, I keep throwing myself at you and you throw me back... am I too small? Thanks, in all seriousness I wanted to nail it, not, um, you. ;)

Tom, I knew you'd have a great story to go with this and you didn't disappoint. I just want to know one thing: how many kindergarten stars did you get?

bobbot, I think Freud's head might explode if he were alive today.

annette, certain people love to point out somebody else's faults. It makes the small-minded feel bigger. To me, they're the bigger asses.

B1, I'm with you, PETA or not.
Sally, sorry I'm so late to this...damn vacation got in the way. You bring up a very important point...addiction. I've worked with clients with sex addictions and "love" addictions. It's difficult to be a witness to. More difficult for anyone married to one. Great post.