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JUNE 17, 2009 12:35AM

Bitch, Bitch, Bitch! Time to Shut Up About Palin & Letterman

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pogo

That Pogo cartoon about Earth Day was co-opted as a key feminist symbol in the 1970's. A reminder to women everywhere that we can be our own worst enemies.

Our version said, We have met the enemy and she is us.

It helped us remember that fear of owning our own destinies must not hold us back from achieving them. That we must unite among ourselves to get results.

And most of all, that we must not get bogged down in dissent over empty oppositional rhetoric or distracted by fatuous misogamy clearly designed to bait us.

It's 40 years later and Pogo is still right. The enemy is still us. She has a name. Sarah Palin. And a cause. Self-promotion.

Just when I believed --having been told self-confidently (and even self-righteously) by women under 50--that today's women have feminism under control, along came Sarah Palin.

Undermining women's rights by ignoring the real issues in order to advance her own agenda, Ms.(ha!) Palin is not a feminist. She's a craven opportunist.

We must stop playing into her --and the Right Wingnut's-- hands. We have just simply got to shut the fuck up about David Letterman.

Was his joke inappropriate? Of course! Was it crafted to support or encourage the rape of teenage girls? Oh PLEASE!

It was one line in a Top Ten list -- a 'bit' well known to be deliberately ridiculous and often barbed. Many public figures have been briefly skewered, including the children of prominent politicians.

All but Palin took it in the spirit --no matter how immature-- it was intended. In this case the joke was also a reflection of the political reality that Sarah Palin and her family have spewed their personal lives all over the media whenever it suited their purposes.

Now it suits Governor Palin to use the Letterman joke to deflect interest or investigation into a long list of alleged improprieties which could derail any change for her potential advancement on the national political stage.

David Letterman apologized. Sincerely. And invited Governor Palin to meet him on the public airways whether to accept his apology or debate her view of his behavior.

Joan Walsh wasn't afraid of hitting the airways to take on Bill O'Reilly. She emerged victorious by her reasoned, accurate responses. And her refusal to stoop to the level of the lowest common denominator.

Is the former Republican Nominee for Vice President of the United States incapable of doing the same? Yes. She only knows how to snipe from the sidelines, strings pulled by political puppeteers angling for a right wing moment in the sun.

"It's Politics, Stupid!" Palin's not protecting her daughters or the cause of women's rights. She's promoting this continuing furor to turn an ill-advised remark to her own, and her foundering party's, advantage.

Has it occurred to no one that by continuing her charade of outrage in keeping this supposedly painful episode alive, Mrs. Palin is allowing --encouraging-- it to publicly humiliate her precious children??

Was Letterman's one-liner even all that misogynistic? I say no. It was a JOKE. Bitch and moan all you want but, like The Onion, Gawker, thousands of other web sites, publications and comedians, Letterman has a right to make jokes about anything and everything. You don't like it, turn off his show.

Please, do not turn a comedian into the anti-feminist anti-Christ. If you do, you become one of Them. The censors. The angry, self-righteous do-gooders who love nothing more than to tell the rest of us how to live.

Please, do not elevate a one-liner to a Right Wing cause celeb on the say-so of a woman who doesn't know the meaning of the word feminism.

By the way, I've read Salon's articles positing Letterman's culpability in keeping misogyny alive. I suggest we look in our own back yard before throwing too many stones.

Look at the Broadsheet pages featuring

Did David Letterman get a free pass?

Letterman and Palin: Both jerks!

On the same page, under the heading Blogs We Like are these:
Angry Black Bitch
Bitch Ph.D.
Jezebel


Colorful. But who's to say they're not contributing to the idea that it's okay for anybody to call us bitches and ho's? Becasue if we say it, then it must be so.

Until that stops too, the enemy is still us.

 

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I, however, am not the enemy. At least I've been trying all these years not to be.
Perfect. Sarah Palin uses any excuse to get in the news and she's exploited her children beyond anything a comedian could do. I wish people would let her find some well-deserved obscurity.

"Undermining women's rights by ignoring the real issues in order to advance her own agenda, Ms.(ha!) Palin is not a feminist. She's a craven opportunist. " So true.
great post. sarah palin is about politics and nothing else. she is just scary. i feel more and more that the Media is just broken. if the media did not keep the story alive, then we would stop thinking and talking about it. i include Salon in this. it's horrifying the way people have to pray for some other either hideous or ridiculous thing to happen to get someone like Palin or Cheney out of the news cycle.

i wasn't paying attention today because i was so disgusted but it looked like someone in politics cheated and apologized publicly so, god willing, the palin thing could be over. for now. love love love and thanks for this terrific post.
btw, i LOVE this picture of you!!!
I love it when the smart kid in the class finds the perfect moment and uses the perfect words to explain it all very clearly so everyone else can understand. This was perfectly said, Sally. Thanks for being smarter than I could have been on this one. Now, could you possibly get Sarah Palin to go away.....?
Well said Sally. Sarah who?
Hell yeah sister! Hell yeah.
I didn't think that it was right that he said that, but it was just not well-thought out. Many jokes are mean-spirited throughout the media. I wouldn't say he was sexist. She should have commented once, and let it go.
Sarah Palin is the Michael Jackson of Motherhood.
Sarah & the First Dude will only be attending the Best Parent of the Year Dinner this year, if they get to shop first for free at Neiman-Marcus and parade the family around the room carrying their moose guns. Also, Sarah wants to be the keynote speaker, so she can show off her knowledge to the ‘East coast-Elite”.

The problem with this is… to date only two votes have been cast in their favor… their own!

I think they are in the last 5 seconds of their 15 minutes of fame. Thank god!
"The enemy is still us."
And by "us", I mean my percieved political opponent, Sarah Palin.

"We have just simply got to shut the fuck up about David Letterman."
As evidenced by my 21 paragraphs about the subject "we" (you) need to "shut the fuck up" about.

"Has it occurred to no one that by continuing her charade of outrage in keeping this supposedly painful episode alive, Mrs. Palin is allowing --encouraging-- it to publicly humiliate her precious children??"

Has it occurred to you that this ridiculous premise is a pre-emptive defense for scumbags who attack other people's children? That nothing Sarah Palin can ever say or do will legitimate attacks on her children, and to make such an argument is to say the "Bitch was asking for it"?

I don't want to get into the (insane) attacks Palin launched in retaliation, but the fact remains that Limbaugh was a scumbag to go over Chelsea, Letterman was a scumbag to go after either Willow OR Bristol, and people who come down on different sides of that due to partisanship are bad feminists and bad people.
Even before seeing the latest video from the Center for American Free Thought I had already agreed with Mortimer Hayden Smith. What 14 year old girl wouldn't want her mother running around the nation on a self promotion tour using her daughters burgeoning sexuality for political points? I fully expect some kind of "Mommy Dearest" book from that kid in about 5 years. I don't think the eldest Palin sibling went to Iraq because he had to, I think he did it to get away from Sarah.
Yes! Thank you, Sally.
It's tempting to say this is much ado about nothing, but sadly, it's not. But how this is primarily a "feminist" issue escapes me. That ought to be the least of the concerns this sorry episode raises. The fact of the matter is this isn't just about The Joke.

The first thing this is about is hypocrisy, and especially the hypocrisy of the "family values" crowd. Who best to be the standard-bearer for a foundation that purports to support "abstinence only" sex education? Why the unmarried teenager who has just become a mother and proved -- yet again -- the failure of that idiotic policy.

And let us not forget, that foundation is supported by an apparel company that profits from selling suggestive clothing to pre-pubescent girls and employs Britney Spears as a spokesperson.

As for the joke, it was clearly over the line, and Letterman has admitted as much. Frankly, he has always been a little too mean to suit me, the kind of comedian who makes a career out of tearing down other people. Johnny Carson he ain't.

Of course, he's not alone on that score. That shtick is what got Imus in trouble, too. Comedy is a dangerous game -- ask Michael Richards or Jonathan Winters.

Sanctimonious Sarah, on the other hand, has made herself an easy target, and by using her children to promote her ambitions, she has made them targets as well. If she didn't want her children to become involved in the joust, she should have left them home. Instead she used them as props.

Worse, her vile V-P campaign was clearly designed to incite racists and psychos on the Far-Right fringe. Anyone who spews that kind of bile and encourages murderous rage in people has no business complaining about an off-color joke. As it is written in my Bible, "he (or she) who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind."
Yes, Palin is an opportunist. Still, I liked her Neiman-Marcus period.
I'm in hurry this a.m.
With proper kudos, I'll quote Tom Cordle in his comment's entireity.
Pogo had the right of it.
I myself wish he had NOT apologized to Governor Palin or Taaaaddd, but only apologize to Bristol and Willow. That part would have been enough. They are afterall pretty much faultless from what their mother does. It was unfortunate that Letterman had to apologize for comedy. As mentioned by many Alex Rodriguez and Elliot Spitzer's wife weren't outraged. They're used to us "Real Americans" having a sense of humor.

Palin is the poster girl for what's wrong with America and feminism. She's a hypocrite of the highest order.

Great piece,
Rated
Palin is a stupid opportunist. Amazing. She's White, so she must be a brilliant strategerigist with breastesses. Heaven forbid that we accept that we're dealing with a stupid woman who has a cheap 'n easy agenda: stay in the media spotlight by whatever means possible, including using your kids as attention magnets.

If she incites negative public outrage, she whines that she is being mistreated.

Letterman could have shut this dog and pony show right down by not even mentioning the controversy. He's playing his own cards though, and is clearly enjoying the improved attention and ratings.

In the end, for some, it is as profitable to attack the Palinocracy as it is to BE the Palinocracy.

Rated!
I have to admit, I got a much bigger laugh out of Palin's reactions to date than I ever got from the joke.

Has it occurred to you that this ridiculous premise is a pre-emptive defense for scumbags who attack other people's children?

How about bringing reality into the picture? Letterman is a COMEDIAN. It is his job to make fun of all sorts of things, including other people. Was the joke in poor taste? Absolutely. Should he have even bothered saying it? Oh, geez. Everyone makes mistakes. Some are more hurtful than others. Hopefully people learn from their mistakes. The joke was intended to be directed at Sarah Palin, and Bristol was just the vehicle for the joke (and make no mistake, Letterman thought he was taking a jibe at Sarah and Bristol, NOT at Willow). This wasn't even in the same league as those two idiotic shock jocks that attacked transgendered people on the public airwaves. Not even close. Politicians are fair game for comics, always have been. Sarah Palin is no different and should not be looking for preferential treatment, 'cause she isn't going to get it.

Letterman made the joke publicly, and he publicly apologized for it.

What more do you want?

You don't see Bill Clinton crying for Letterman's head, nor are George Bush or Elliot Spitzer or John Edwards. Get over yourselves, people.

BTW, Excellent piece Sally. Rated.
Sally, for the most part you are off base.

Governor Palin does not have to deflect interest or investigations into a long list of alleged improprieties. She was cleared of each and every one of them.

As far as Letterman saying he is sorry, well if the last one was the first one, this would have gone away very quickly. The fact that he couldn't man up and just do what he finally did and not try to make another joke about it is what kept it in the news.

She was right about no going on his show and increasing his ratings. He has been behind the Tonight show for years. He would have loved the added viewers that Palin would have brought to him. As for Joan going on O'Reilly, he doesn't need the ratings boost. He has been number one for over 8 years. He beats the rest of the people he goes against combined. The ratings boost went to Salon because of the number of viewers the Factor has.

Letterman is know for his left leaning politics. So why is it that Imus got canned and not Letterman? Imus realized the screwed up as soon as the words came out of his mouth and manned up. Letterman had to have his arm twisted. Imus went on other shows and spread the word that he was sorry. Where has Letterman done that? All the race pimps came out against Imus. Where are the feminists against Letterman? Both told a joke that should have not been told. Imus just said it. Letterman read it, rehearsed it, and then did it on TV. No off the cuff remark for Letterman. He had a chance to cut the joke, but he did it anyway.

As for those who want Letterman's head on a plate, they need to go away. It was a bad joke, you are right about that. He finally did the right thing. Imus should not have been fired, and neither should Letterman.

Now the one point you're totally correct about, it's time for this issue to die.
Bill S- the "reality" is that Letterman issued a lazy, misogynist attack on an 18 y/o for the crime of a) getting pregnant by her high school boyfriend and b) having a famous mother. That he finally issued a sincere apology is lovely, despite the fact that it took two weeks too long and was preceded by an insincere mockery of an apology.
As I have stated before, I am the same age as Chelsea Clinton- "He's a Comedian!" was a bullshit excuse for Limbaugh's attacks then, and it's a bullshit excuse now.
Hell, Bill, even now you can't see the difference between a Politician ("fair game") and her family ("Bristol was just the vehicle for the joke")

It is UNACCEPTABLE to use anyone's child as a vehicle to attack them, and people who do so should face serious consequences, including AT A MINIMUM being required to issue a sincere apology.

You people who disagree should have an epi-pen handy, lest this exposure to principle cause a fatal allergic reaction.
FYI, Alex is having more surgery today to remove tumors from his left eye this time, so if I'm back at all it won't be until tonight. Prayers and good thoughts welcome.

To reply...

I want to thank those who agree with me for understanding that we are letting a tempest in a teapot distract from the real issues of discrimination and sexism.

Thanks to Tom and others who offer reasoned additional points which I should have made myself. But hey, then I'd leave Tom et al with nothing to say and that's not fair. Really, I do appreciate the deeper insights.

To those who disagree, you make my point... we are all free to say what we want. I choose not to through further light on your point of view, which is also my right.

Teddy, nice to see you! And thanks, that's the real, current me up there sans my hot new fire engine red glasses.

Cat, a little heavy on the rhetoric, but I'm also on record saying Imus shouldn't have been fired, repulsive as his behavior was.

Thanks all, debate away, see you later!
I wish he had not apologized and I hope that he doesn;t become skittish the next time she says or does something stupid (day or two)
Bill S- the "reality" is that Letterman issued a lazy, misogynist attack on an 18 y/o for the crime of a) getting pregnant by her high school boyfriend and b) having a famous mother.

No, Wycked, the "reality" is that a "comedian" made a "joke" about a "famous person" and included "members of their family". He was most certainly making fun of the waffle that the Palins did regarding Bristol's pregnancy. The man is ANYTHING but a misogynist and your inability to recognize "humor that is in poor taste" from "a lazy, misogynist attack" is very telling.

For the record, I don't much like Letterman. I honestly do not find the man very funny. But I recognize his right to make fun of Sarah Palin. If she wants to continuously use her family in order to further her own agenda, why the hell shouldn't comedians be able to play on that?

Last response to you. Thanks for playing.
Sally, your article is reasoned and well constructed, and I love how you tied the Pogo ad into it. I wish I had something more to add, other than you are a bright ray of logical sunshine in an otherwise stormy and illogical news cycle.
I love David Letterman and he handled the whole thing beautifully. SP was in her typical narcissistic whine. (Oh I'm being nasty today!) Great post Sally.
With stories like the Letterman-Palin tempest-in-a-teapot I get the impression that the media is just riding it and whipping it out of desperation to retain our eyeballs.

After reading the first blurb about it I've tried to ignore it - having to suffer only furtive glances at headlines. That CNN and other sites are even shoveling this schlock at us only shows how debased they've become.

Obama's puppy - I don't care. Michelle's arms - I don't care. Jon and Kate - not only don't I care, I don't even know who they are or why any website thinks I should care!
Theodora, are you kiding: "sarah palin is about politics and nothing else?" Sarah Palin is about Sarah Palin and really nothing else. Self-absorbed is an understatement. Please recognize that. I'm sorry David Letterman brought her back into the public eye. It's hardly where she belongs.

Sal, another great one. And thanks for going with Alex.
Bill S- to ask a question and then state you won't respond to the answer is cowardly.

But to give your thoughts more respect than they deserve- you asked "If she wants to continuously use her family in order to further her own agenda, why the hell shouldn't comedians be able to play on that?"

1. The "comedians" were not playing on her using her family, they were slut-shaming her daughter. The joke was not about Bristol being used as a photo-op, but about Bristol's implied promiscuity.
2. The reason Palin's bad behavior doesn't excuse others' bad behavior was also covered in the "two wrongs don't equal a right" day in Kindergarden- I'll see if I can get you the Cliff notes.

I hope this has helped.
I missed the David Letterman quip so I'll have to catch up. But your post is sharp, clear and to the point. Well focused, Sally.
When you don't have policies, you have to rely on personalities and putdowns. And the more the public flatters Palin's flawed persona, the more she will continue. I do hope Palin runs in 2012. She cannot get past false issues, she goes too far, and she will lose.

Thanks, Sal!
Big thumb up your Post, here, Sally. GREAT big thumb.
Bill S- to ask a question and then state you won't respond to the answer is cowardly.

Call it what you want, Wycked. I'm not gonna get into a comment war with you on someone else's post.

That's simply rude.
Like Steve Blevins---I liked her Neiman Marcus period. . .
Sarah Palin is one big ego topped with some hairspray. I'd pray for her to stop getting so much airtime, but I think she's only hurting the Repubs, so it's not all bad. The SF Chron's conservative columnist is begging for her to not only stop ragging on Letterman but to disappear, as she's only hurting her party with her whining.
Palin and Letterman are both in it for the ratings. You are right, Sally, we need to shut TF up. Period.
Bristol is 18, right? So, she's fair game.
i was with you until you listed some blogs as "part of the problem".

i say they're not contributing to the idea that it's okay for anybody to call us bitches and hos, just like how black guys who use the n-word don't make it okay for me to use it. we get to name ourselves. we also get to refuse those names when they're meant unkindly.

i'm not a bad feminist or a bad person for laughing at letterman's joke. we are not here to validate each other: we're individuals. this attitude is what prompted mccain to choose palin as a running mate in the first place. her vaginal credentials do not matter to me: i get to reject her, and it doesn't mean i'm not a feminist. it means i'm me, and that should be enough.

wycked, you make my gender look weak, and that's your right. i do not want the protection you demand. and neither did palin, once upon a time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Y8FKAsxmk

why shouldn't that matter now?
Great post. Agree with most of it.

The never-too-late, great Larry Flynt rode this pony all the way to the Supreme Court, so Dave don't have to:

"In Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46 (1988), the United States Supreme Court held, in a unanimous 8-0 decision (Justice Kennedy took no part in the consideration or decision of the case), that the First Amendment's free-speech guarantee prohibits awarding damages to public figures to compensate for emotional distress intentionally inflicted upon them." [wiki]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And although the skyrocket-that-became-a-miserable-parody-of- himself-Lenny-Bruce won his first obscenity trial in SF, he subsequently lost his way, exemplifying winning a battle, but not the war, but only because both the locus and the reason for the war had changed.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's ridicody -- hmm... parodiculous.... hmm. Let's invent a new word for that Woman from Wasilla.
nice post,Sally.

Connie Mack - how 'bout Wasilly Woman?
SS: Now I've got it in my head, to Neil Diamond's classic, "Kentucky Woman" ....

you OWE me!
Good points and I agree!
Self-promotion of a vacant self. Sarah pales in comparison to "the writer."
Again, thanks to all who agree. I lurve you all.

Stacey, I'm confused. Did you just compare me to Sarah Palin?

Connie and Sandra, now you've both got me singing Wasilly Woman.

bstrangely, I stand by what I said. If we call ourselves names we are saying it's okay for others to do so. Just as Bill Cosby has called on Black comedians to stop using the n word, women should stop giving tacit approval of the use of words like bitch and ho.
@ sally swift

this is a huge hurdle i see for feminists. i am not a symbol for your choices, and you're not a symbol of mine.

incidentally, it's "jezebel" not "zezebel".

sarah palin is doing this now on the talk show circuit. she freely makes women into talking points instead of treating them like real human beings. that is misogyny. i don't think she means to do it, but that's the crux of her complaint about letterman: she doesn't want him to apologize to her daughter, she wants him to apologize to ALL young women.

she is not my emissary. she's not my mother. we should be free to disagree with each other, instead of imagining new ways to blame women for inequality. i don't think men do that to each other. why do we do it?
I wish palin would just finally drop all the pretense and pose for playboy :)
now THATs what I vote for!!
Sarah sarah....as some know, her visit to Loveland was too much for me to bear.

I smile at such a Sally! I'm sure you've heard all the Sally phrases...but that's an antique one I really like and it suits you. Not that you are a 'sally'...you know....xox
Darling Robin, look at my OS bio up there, we are on the same page, Sally-wise. Um, I think. I am a bit bumfuzzled today. xoxo back atcha
If its time to shut up about it why are you writing an article on the subject? We are being bombarded by the media on non issues. Trivial nonsense like this or Miss America. Who cares what any of them say or think? They're all has beens.
Uh, Jim? You (and a few others singing the "why are you writing this" song) have missed the point. I am talking to The Media, all of whom are following and dramatizing this story far beyond it's minimal scale and far more than current real, important news. I'm expressing my opinion as a blogger that all the "principals" and the news outlets covering them should drop it.

bs, thank you for pointing out my Jezebel typo, a major faux pas in this post. I've fixed it. I hope you'll attempt the same with your sense of scale and humor.
uh, what's wrong with my sense of humor?

are you joking in this post, or do you really mean what you seem to be saying? sincerely, i'm not giving up even the tiniest fragments of my identity based on what some blogger does.

if that's not the point of what you're saying, then please accept my apology. but if it is... why can't you talk about it?
I don't see anything in your blog about not writing about it. It is just another comentary on Palin and Letterman. Adding to the 3,000 others on one more trivial pissing contest.
And revisiting the broader topic of the absolute INANE nature of news today...

...THIS JUST IN...OBAMA SWATS A FLY!!!

Good grief, what is becoming of our society?
Great post, Sally. Though I've been keeping the Palin-Letterman debate alive on my own blog, I've enjoyed pointing out the lunacy of the claims and the extremism of many of the folks making them. I think your assessment of Palin is right on the money. And I'll try and refrain from giving the whole situation much more attention. But sometimes I just can't help myself. Some of it's just too good! In a scary way.
How does one come to the conclusion that a woman who is a wife, mother, adored by her family, and a spectacularly successful career woman knows nothing about feminism? Is it that she's attractive? Is it that she had the courage to give birth to a challenged child?

These explanations lead inexorably to the green-eyed monster, which I think is alive and well in this debate. I would venture to posit that if you group Palin's detractors in categories, homely women who share the view that abortion is some sort of enema would predominate. If the show fits, wear it.

Say what you will about her political and economic policies. But to decry her contribution to the cause of feminism is just plain nuts.
Gordon,
Don't play dumb. Ann Coulter says she hates feminists and blames them for any number of things (except for her right to vote) and she's a very successful woman in a male dominated field.
It's possible for women to be successful in whatever they do and still contribute nothing to feminism.
Au contraire, M&M. Colter has done a great deal to advance the cause of women. She's proven that she can strongly twist the balls of any number of liberal male opponents, she accepts the responsibility of reproductive capacity, she is hugely successful in a male-dominated world (which you admit) and she certainly takes care of herself physically as a woman: great hair, great figure. What "feminists" whom you believe deserve that title more than Colter can claim those credentials?
uh, gordon? what do you mean when you say ann coulter "accepts the responsibility of reproductive capacity"?

i mean, she hasn't got any kids and she's not married. either she is:
celibate
using the world's most effective birth control
willing to abort babies so she can keep her career

which do you think it is? is she "responsible" or a baby killing spinster?
That's a paradox - she speaks openly against feminst ideals.

But maybe you're on to something. Maybe deep down she is a closet feminist, as I suspect her greatest motivation to be not the disarming of the feminist movement but the approval of men. That's why she called John Edwards a fag. She thought men (her peers, her fans) would like it.
Most women don't have to resort to things like that in order to disarm a man.

And how she looks has nothing to do with whether or not she contributes to women's causes. I shouldn't have to remind you of that, Gordon.