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Sally Swift

Sally Swift
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DECEMBER 8, 2009 11:11PM

Watergate, Carl Bernstein, The Smothers Brothers and Me

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Woodward and Bernstein @The Washington Post (UPI / Bettmann)

"Carl’s a phenomenal jitterbugger. At parties in high school, we danced together. ... if I saw him in the nursing home and somebody put on Bill Haley, we could get up and do it again." Annie Groer, Washington Post reporter


I've led a pretty interesting Been There, Done That life. Ask me to celebrate a "formative political event" and I've got a pretty long menu of choices. I can't cook any of them. But I can offer you some tasty tidbits in another way.

Eat My Words

My experiences, especially with the Great and Near Great, have ranged from the ridiculous to the sublime to many fascinating spots in between.

Rebecca Farwell's winning entry "Nixon resigns dinner party" got me thinking of Watergate and the good old days when I knew Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein. My story's more about Bernstein, but I'll give you a soupcon of Bob.

In the early to mid 70s, working in journalism and politics, I spent a lot of time in Washington. When in DC I lived with a galpal in her great little Georgetown house. A bit older than I, she'd actually worked in the Watergate during the scandal. And she knew everybody.

A lot of well known journalists and pols were frequent visitors to the House on P Street. (More about some of them another time). A rumpled, hungry, chainsmoking reporter named Carl Bernstein was pretty much living there. He wasn't famous. Yet.

Bob Woodward showed up a few times. Frankly, he was a tightass then, as he gives every indication of being now. Full of his preppy self, oh so serious, thinking Deep Thoughts. Acting like a dork.

Carl, on the other hand, was fun and funny, a party guy, intense and yet full of nonsense -- when he wasn't slaving at the Washington Post trying to make a name for himself.

If you're a Boomer, or, well, have studied any American politics, you know what's coming.

Carl started working more and hanging out less. He and Woodward were onto something big. When Carl fell through the door late at night, he was bursting with stories about break-ins and cover-ups and sleazy wheelings and dealings in the Nixon administration.

We should have paid more attention, but what can I say, we were young and --in retrospect-- as clueless as everybody else about what was happening to our country.


Watergate

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"The burglars who broke into the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee at the Watergate were, in effect, breaking into the home of every citizen." Senator Sam Ervin

If you were picking Cheerios off your high chair when the Watergate scandal was tearing the country apart, consider yourself lucky. But don't for a minute think Watergate didn't have an effect on you.

Every scandal that followed has had "Gate" appended to its name. No accident. The events stemming from the Nixon administration-backed break-in and bugging of Democratic party headquarters in the Watergate complex set the scandal bar at an all time high -- or more accurately, low.

Richard Nixon and his evil minions were soulless villains. Hard to say if Bush, Cheney and Co. were better or worse. Both, in their unspeakable arrogance and hubris and paranoia believed themselves to be above the law. And thus justified in hitting America below the belt.

We take political scandals almost too much for granted today. They've always been the dark side of our government's history. From Teapot Dome to Iran Contra to MonicaGate -- our elected leaders have found numerous ways to betray us.

And as is sadly the case in American culture, we vilify the least of them and allow the worst to prosper.

Bill and Monica, a circus of disproportionate outrage masterminded by Republicans of far less than sterling character themselves. And in the end, who got hurt, save the participants' families? Was the Republic in danger? Never.

Watergate, on the other hand, put our liberty, lives and the government itself in jeopardy. Bob Woodward, Carl Bernstein and The Washington Post exposed a scenario of desperately deep corruption, huge payoffs and serious criminal acts, from the President down.

Highly placed Nixon administration officials went to jail. Nixon himself escaped that penalty only by resigning the Presidency.

Woodward and Bernstein co-authored a best-selling book, All the President's Men which subsequently became a movie. Dustin Hoffman was totally convincing as Carl. It was actually kind of creepy to see a friend portrayed on a movie screen. Even creepier for Carl himself.


The Smothers Brothers

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Before the movie and all the hoopla, Carl and Bob crisscrossed the country on book tours. One day Carl came to Philly to flog the book on a nationally syndicated talk show taped locally at KYW TV.

By then I was living in Philly again. I picked him up at the airport and took him to the studio. We were both so excited that The Smothers Brothers were also among the day's guests.

Note to the Cheerios Crowd: The Smothers Brothers were a wildly popular topical comedy team with their own show on CBS. Which CBS cancelled when they got too political. Another story.

Carl, new to the Fame Game, wondered over and over if it would be dorky to ask for their autograph. I urged him to go for it. Over and over. Did I mention his dogged nature? Well, yeah, breaking the Watergate story and all.

Still, he was dorky Carl. Who didn't want to act like a dork. We walked into the Green Room and there they were. The Smothers Brothers.

Carl's sweaty hand grabbed mine as he fumbled for words, clearly star struck.

Tommy Smothers stood up and said, "You're Carl Bernstein."

"Uh, yeah," was Carl's articulate answer.

Tommy picked up a book from the end table. It was, of course, All The President's Men. Sheepishly, he held the book out to Carl. "I hope you don't think this is dorky," Tommy said, "but can I have your autograph?"

Eat those words with a spoon.


 
 
 

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Anybody hungry for some political/journalism/comedy dish?
oh, that was tasty, sally! yum. thanks!
Always! I love your stories. The autograph bit at the end rings all true and I can just picture it. What fun :-)
Oh fun! Thanks for the window into those days. I went and saw All the Presidents Men 3 times with my best friend when it came out. 3 times in a row immediately. We were awestruck.
ah, those were the days...

actually they were the days lbj and tricky were bringing democracy to south east asia with napalm and free fire zones. i got the point of watergate easily enough, but i wondered why no one was bothered by mass murder.
femme, do click on the 3 links at the top under Eat My Words for older and maybe even tastier stories.

Kelly, it was hilarious. We all burst out laughing, which broke the tension. The Smo Bros were as real as it gets. Still are.

Deborah, everybody should see All the Presidents Men... it's literally history. And many of us lived through it.
al, I was bothered by mass murder, but I've only got so much space here, yanno. And this was about my connection to that/those named in my title. But, point taken.
I remember the Nixon years, The Washington Post reports, and your friend Carl Bernstein. Now, through your post, I'm one step closer to a man I hold in high esteem. ~R~
Four yums, Sally! You have incredible and delicious stories.
A great moment in cultural history deftly told--make that "uncovered."
How amazing -- can't wait for more details. I lived for the Smothers Brothers show. REmember Classical Gas? And The Box? I sent off and received a beautiful little printed page of The Box.
You're quite the raconteur. What a twist at the end. Nicely done.
Sally, what a great story. I read excerpts aloud to The Redhead and I could hardly get through them because I was laughing so hard.

We have some of the Smothers Brothers shows on DVD and wish we had more. It was seminal programming, along with That Was The Week That Was and Laugh-In. (Tom Lehrer from TW3 still makes me laugh -- ruefully -- when I play Vatican Rag or National Brotherhood week or So Long Mom.)

All the President's Men -- the book -- was fabulous. So was the movie. Both nailed what it was like to be in a carnivorous newsroom then. For many years, I was irritated by Woodward and Bernstein because they influenced a generation of reporters who all thought they were investigative journalists but were in fact shallow dummies looking for (and often inventing) scandals.

But what W&B accomplished ... oh, my. Should you see Bernstein again, please give him my regards, for what that's worth. I admired the two of them greatly.
I remember. I also remember thinking, later in life when I was older, that Nixon's most damning act was getting caught. I have no illusions that the corruption had been going on for more than one administration. It was about time that it stopped (if, in fact, it has).

Dick and Tommy were staples in my house. I loved that show, they were great. What I wouldn't have given to get an autograph.

Great tale, Sally, as always. If I can quote a song, "It's the stuff that dreams are made of."

Thumbed.
That era was part of my political formative years. I'm happy to hear that Carl is as cool in person as he seems during interviews. Would 1972 Woodward even recognize the status quo tool that is 2009 Woodward? Outside of being a full of himself tightass.
Damn, Sally. Wish I stopped drinking sooner because, as I think we've discussed, I don't remember Woodward ever coming to the house on 37th Street between P and Q (to be exact.)

Do me a favor: write my memoir for me, will you?

And just in case people haven't guessed, that was my house - and if those walls could talk.... Believe me, Sally is just shaving a little ice off the tip of THAT iceberg.
Duh! Now I get it. "The House on P Street" makes a nice title. Please allow me to retract my previous statement on the location of said house, the stories of which might give the House on C Street (or Peyton Place for those whose memories run that far back) a little competition in the political/journalism/comedy dish department. But you didn't get that from me.
Chuck, there's so much to remember it's hard to know where to start. The man you hold in high esteem.... not Nixon, right? heh

zuma, Pilgrim, denese, happy to have fed your interest. More will be served anon.

skeletn, I still have the Smo Bros theme music going through my head. Do you remember Yo-yo man? They're still performing, btw.

Tom, Stacey, glad you enjoyed. And just think, no heartburn!

B1, what an accolade, thank you! We loved TW3, so funny to remember a time we sat around listening to comedy records and laughing our asses off. Same disappointment in reporting today. It's all about the celebrity 'get' and not about the news. This story may have been the last time I saw Carl, now that I think about it. Cindy Lou?

Bill, thank you, I adored them and still do. And you know what? I just realized *I* never got an autograph that day!!

Stim, I saw a recent picture of the two and couldn't believe the white hair! (Which of course I don't have, plus they're older than I.. ahem). For the record, if you ask Nora Ephron (Carl's ex-wife), he became rather full of himself too. I'd like to think they've both mellowed but still have some fire left over from their salad days.

Cindy Lou, why you mess with the address? Got me a flow going here, honey-chile. I'm not sure Woodward came to the house or if it was at Clyde's but I do remember him clearly, definitely not the Robert Redford version. heh
I'm still reeling from your story about Dylan--these tales just keep getting better!
Thanks, Karin. As I suggested (humbly) to femme, when you get a chance, click on the 3 links at the top under Eat My Words for other stories I've already told.
Sally, I tole ya. I'm slow to catch on.
Sal, I can't remember if I talked with you or V. about Woodward's rumored visit to the house on P Street. If it was V, then the story is confirmed by best journalistic standards. If not... Clyde's will do. We saw plenty of action there, too. Then there was Tamany Hall.
What a fun read, and great story telling! I look forward to going back to old posts to read about some of your other encounters.
I read and watched, enraptured!
Your post brought back lots of memories. My family was quite conservative, but the Smother's Brothers were a weekly event in my house. I don't know if my parents didn't catch the political subtext or if they just thought that the SBs were so damn funny that they watched despite themselves. I wore the grooves off of one of their albums (on vinyl). One side was comedy, the other music. I don't know which I liked more.
mginmn, thanks you, I hope you won't be disappointed. In fact, I'm pretty sure you won't. Though I didn't include Dylan in the links. :)

trig, glad you enjoyed a trip back in time.

poorsinner, ditto.

I Wonder, maybe your parents weren't as conservative as you think.. SmoBro political humor was pretty pointed. The next generation should meet the Smothers Brothers, don't you think? For the historic musical guests alone.

There are YouTube vids of The Doors (with Jim Morrison looking So young), The Who, The Beatles, even Donovan and so many more. Plus, their own harmonies were amazing. We wore out the vinyl too.

Owl, glad you enjoyed, and calorie free too!
Nice story. On Watergate, I've always wondered what got covered up in the Big Shred. I think it was after the 5 burglers were indicted, WH and CREEP staffers worked the whole weekend just shredding documents. They even had to bring in shredding machines from other states. Fascinating to imagine what might have buried.

On the Smos Bros, I too was a big fan. One highlight was Pete Seeger doing the Big Muddy after previous censorship.

And someone commented about TWTWTW. Great show but also fell afoul of a type of censorship. In 64 between Goldwater's nomination and the election, there was a one month run where for three weeks, the Republicans bought out the TW3 timeslot for their ads. They didn't expect many folks to watch them; rather, it was to prevent Goldwater from being mocked.

Thanks for the memories.
Abrawang, some of your info I remember, some I missed due to youth and ignorance. Thanks for sharing your memories too.
I recall a song they did on the commercialization of christmas, it was a bit like the whole twelve days thing. One of the things that was a have to get was a Sexy Sally Doll in skin tight stretch pants. They weren't referring to you were they?
Interesting stuff. I was not in a high chair during watergate, but I was still checking out my acne in the mirror during watergate. I was the dorky kid who stayed inside all summer watching the hearings on TV thinking to myself, "I am living in the middle of history, and I do not want to forget it."

Interesting sharing Forrest Gump like near infamy, isn't it? Want dirt on the infamous "I paid for this microphone" speech? How about some old VP selection machinations?

2010 ... Destry Rides Again
You've lived a fascinating life, Sally! Most can't write about such things.
Bob, I never heard of a Sexy Sally doll and when I googled it, yikes!!

Geoff, I stayed in a lot to watch the hearings too. We all kept saying to each other, "We're watching history." Funny you should mention Forrest Gump.... I'll get back to you on that.

patricia, I wouldn't believe a lot of this myself if I hadn't been there. :)
Fabulous story Sally! Scandals come and go, cool to have a slice o' that one, let alone the spin that followed... Hah...RRR
What a neat story! Great ending. Only you could link Bernstein and the Smothers Brothers. You have a wonderful way of mixing the serious, the funny, the profound, and the light-hearted. We can always count on a delectable smorgasbord!