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Saturn Smith

Saturn Smith

Saturn Smith
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Everything posted here, and more random thoughts, are also posted at my web site: http://kepkanation.com.

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FEBRUARY 14, 2009 8:07PM

Lost Weapons, Found Oversight

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For someone who seems to write down every fleeting thought, I am a terrible records keeper.  I had a boss once who was spectacular at this, had a filing system that included a folder which held an operating manual for every mechanical device she owned -- a file that was, I believe, cleaned out once a year to eliminate those products that had moved on.  I knew every time I saw that folder that it was far beyond me to ever be so organized.

Thus while my sympathies lie with those, like me, who can't find their tax forms (they're here somewhere) to save their lives, I also believe this is one of those weaknesses that it's easy to observe about yourself, and should therefore inspire either self-correction or, at worst, self-restriction.  I will never apply for a job as an executive assistant, for instance -- unless I hate the executive.

So why is it so hard for the Department of Defense to figure out that they are just not that good at keeping track of stuff, and that maybe, just maybe, it's time to seek help?  Via CNN (h/t Cernig at Newshoggers; emphasis mine):

More than one-third of all weapons the United States has procured for Afghanistan's government are missing, according to a government report released Thursday.

The U.S. military failed to "maintain complete inventory records for an estimated 87,000 weapons -- or about 36 percent -- of the 242,000 weapons that the United States procured and shipped to Afghanistan from December 2004 through June 2008," a U.S. Government Accountability Office report states.

Two hundred TONS of weapons?  I lose things, but I'd notice if my couch walked out the door.  Even the couch I don't like.

This isn't new.  Cernig goes on to remind us that the GAO report in 2007 revealed that, under General Petraeus's watch, "110,000 AK47s and 80,000 Glock pistols walked out the door" in Iraq.

So how does this happen?  In part, it happens thanks to graft and bribery; in part it happens because there's not enough security along supply routes.  GlobalPost (again, h/t Cernig) has a frightening story out of Pakistan about the easy purchase of a laptop containing U.S. military information.

Lt. Col. Mark Wright, a Pentagon spokesman, told GlobalPost, “There has been a fairly constant amount of pilferage or losses” as trucks operated by civilian contractors have been attacked or looted along the supply routes from Karachi to the Khyber Pass.

Combine this with today's news about an inquiry into graft that now seems to center on two high-ranking military officials, and you have a pattern of damaging behavior that makes Iraq and Afghanistan appear, if possible, more dangerous than thought for American troops.  The New York Times sums it up in its usual dry, frightening fashion:

The reconstruction effort, intended to improve services and convince Iraqis of American good will, largely managed to do neither. The wider investigation raises the question of whether American corruption was a primary factor in damaging an effort whose failures have been ascribed to poor planning and unforeseen violence.

So not only did we invade Iraq on false pretenses, our own inept management may prove to be a significant factor in the danger our troops, other countries' troops, and the Iraqi and Afghan populations faced after our invasion?

What happened to the leaner, cleaner military the neocons promised us?  Is this corruption a byproduct of military streamlining, overengagement of outside contractors, poor planning, or bad intentions?

There is one part of this whole story that gives me a tiny bit of hope.  Rep. John Tierney (D-Mass.), chairman of the subcommitte on National Security and Foreign Affairs, held a hearing this week to ask some of those questions.  He notes that "In January 2008, Congress passed a law requiring that 'no defense articles be provided to Iraq until the President certifies that a registration and monitoring system has been established' and it listed what the system should include."  Sure, a little thing, and very late in the game, but it's a step in the right direction, as is Tierney's assertion that his committee will be involved in the ongoing re-write of policy in both wars.

Congressional oversight Defense policy?  Music to my otherwise bleeding ears.

(Perhaps once they're done cleaning up the Pentagon, they can help me find my tax forms).

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"Is this corruption a byproduct of military streamlining, overengagement of outside contractors, poor planning, or bad intentions?"

seems like a little bit of some from each column doesn't it? with maybe strong emphasis on overengagement of outside contractors. what also seems to be a huge issue is just the pervasive nature of corruption in iraq and afghanistan, from the highest levels of government all the way out to the village level. any sort of assistance, including weapons etc., which is used to prop up such rotten regimes is bound to be siphoned off at least in part by the rotten elements, which are more or less inherent in the system there.
Good stuff, thanks, but every time I read this kind of stuff, I just keep imaging mothers and wives sitting at home in front of picture of their dead service member and thinking about how everyone made such a deadly game out of their loved one's life.

RH
Yeah, nanatehay, I agree -- it's some combination, and so complex and, you're right, doomed from the start, we'll probably never have an exact answer.

Roy, thanks. It is a sobering thought. Tierney said something to that effect in his opening statement to the committee, that the thoughts of the government need to be, in part, with their responsibility to later explain these deaths to loved ones.
Having worked on military systems (non-weapons systems, but still) as a contractor, I can tell you that for all we spend on weapons, the military's tracking and logistics systems are obsolete at best and a frackin' mess at worse.

I also wonder believe that the walking off of weapons is probably a combination of overengagement of contractors, where turnover is higher and the potential for corruption probably greater (i.e., they're in it for the money in the first place), woefully poor strategy and tactics (again, paying and arming militias), and I'm guessing inadequate information systems and faulty data.

Egads! It is frightening and sad all at the same time.
Egads, indeed. That's a pretty good way to sum up how I feel with each new paragraph I read about this. It's good and also scary to know that these charges being brought are an accurate reflection of the problems in the system. Thanks, lps.
Thanks for this S. You're so good, with all you do here, that it's hard not to leave your page feeling rage and frustration. Which means again, that you're good, but damn. I'll keep coming back, but I know I'll probably be leaving grumpy again. You don't have a "show me the kittens" post in reserve do you?
Thanks, bbd. And sadly, the kittens are afraid to come out on my page. But I'll keep coaxing them. Here, kitty kitty...
Saturn,

Not to belabor, but even if the entire mess is exposed, will anyone pay the consequences? IMO, from a a purely legal stand point, there well be some manslaughter charges here.

This is not arcane legal territory.

If YOU lay a loaded gun, with blatant disregard for safety on your kitchen table and somebody get's killed as a result, you are very responsible.

So when people in charge of these weapons, no matter how high up the chain of command can be show to be negligent, and people, especially Americans are being killed with these "lost" weapons, there's a helluva case here.

And tons floating around is certainly negligent.

RH
I agree, Roy, on the negligence. But I think where the legal issues will hit a real snag on the Afghanistan and Iraq fronts is in the fact that most of the weapons weren't stolen directly from U.S. custody, but were handed over (without being adequately categorized or tracked) by U.S. officials to those being trained by the U.S. It's a failure of follow-up and tracking and trust, all of which will be very hard to prosecute.

But those officials who took bribes to look the other way while inventory was stolen and looted -- yes. I agree they should be facing some very heavy penalties for physical harm done.
We've lost 87,000 weapons? Ummmmmmm, wtf? (Can't we just use our defense money on $600 toilet seats like the good old days?)

On Monday I have to go to our state capitol and testify about how we could cover legal immigrant children in Iowa with health care coverage, and it will cost us less than $250K. I am in for the battle of my life.

May I quote from your piece, please, when they start to yell at me about money and how we don't have any? How this idea is a wasteful expenditure?

You rock, Saturn.
For that cause, you could quote me on anything. Wow. I do not envy you the battle ahead -- but hope you'll report back. Good luck!!
Saturn, I wish you had been there last week. I testified about the new CHIP bill and the insurance lobby was there in full force at the committee meeting. None of them had registered to speak but they made it clear they were taking down every word I said. Good lord. Because maybe a few kids over 300% FPL will get access to affordable healthcare? Yep. That would destroy employer-based insurance as we know it.
Tomorrow should be interesting. Did you see the NY Times article today about giving legal immigrants a pathway to citizenship if they serve in the military? That's been part of my argument too. We allow legal immigrants to work, pay taxes, got to school, and go to war, but we don't cover their kids who are income eligible. wtf?
My ears bleed with yours.
I am amazed that anyone who has been following the news in the Middle East can possibly be surprised at all this. "Iraq" , "Afghanistan" etc. are all "Failed States", what used to be called Puppet States , when the British and Japanese were doing it. The whole purpose of the game is to enable various private parties on both sides to steal ,bigtime. It's much easier than working, and if anyone calls anyone on it, you can just accuse them of being Unpatriotic. As Mark Twain said, "Patriotism is the Last Refuge of Scoundrels".