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Saturn Smith

Saturn Smith
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Everything posted here, and more random thoughts, are also posted at my web site: http://kepkanation.com.

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MAY 11, 2009 2:00PM

The Star Trek Style of Leadership

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I have seen the new Star Trek movie.  There are only minor spoilers ahead for it, and probably nothing that would surprise anyone who’s seen the trailer or the original series, but let that sentence stand as warning.

Star Trek promo photoCourtesy Paramount/Star Trek promo photo

So I saw the new Star Trek movie this weekend, and I liked it quite a bit.  I’ll let others discuss its merits as a movie, or a reboot, or an adventure, or what have you; I’ll let MoDowd go crazy with the Spockian parallels (no link; I don’t encourage the read).  I want to use it briefly to discuss the American view of what it takes to be a leader.

There are two ways to summarize this Star Trek movie in terms of how things work out for James T. Kirk (pictured above — the one without the pointy ears).

  1. James T. Kirk has great instincts that lead him to be in the right place at the right time, and it is these superior instincts that lead others to trust and assist him, culminating in his ascension to captain of the U.S.S. Enterprise.  Call this the “Skilled Leader” summary.
  2. James T. Kirk is a wild, irresponsible, extremely lucky bastard who careens from adventure to adventure, taking huge risks.  By luck (or perhaps because of the odds), some of these risks payoff, which convinces others that he must have hidden and superior leadership skills.  The talents of those who follow him act as a buffer against bad things happening even when he does take big risks, so his overall leadership success seems high.  Call this the “Lucky Son-Of-a-Gun” summary.

A persuasive argument could be made for either side in this movie (and probably in the series as a whole).  What’s interesting is not that we can’t tell which it is — it’s that the second option is a viable way to swiftly climb the ranks.  And not just in Starfleet, but in the world we live in: you could switch out “James T. Kirk” with any number of current world leaders and still make a great argument for either of these paths to power being primary.

The ways that American media consider and reconstruct leadership, both in news stories and in the creative arts, seems telling of the way Americans look at and for leaders.  Would we ever elect James T. Kirk president?  I think we would — in fact, I think we have, not so long ago.  We’ve certainly got a whole raft of Kirk-like characters in charge of our banks and automotive companies at the moment.  And though we’re paying a high price for that, I think a large swath of Americans would still love to have a more Kirkian president at the helm.  I understand the romance of it as well as the next amateur Trekkie — oh the adventures! — but I also understand the risk.  James T. Kirk rarely loses, but he lives not only in the future, but in the fictional future.  Here on real Earth, I’m not sure the second style of leadership should ever be rewarded with a real commission.

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I haven't seen the movie yet, but I think Bush had a real Kirkian #2 vibe to some people...except without things working out in the end.
I thought the moral of the story as far as leadership is concerned, is that the best leaders know when not to follow the rules.
Denese, I think you're right, that was the moral of this story -- or part of it. There's something to it about the combination of styles, Kirk's brash disregard for rules tempered by Spock's adherence to regulation, with the support of a good staff.
Bush didn't have a deus ex machina from the future.
I would argue integrity is a discernable trait and is the most important trait of a leader. Style is irrelevant.
I truly like your thought process!
By luck (or perhaps because of the odds), some of these risks pay off, which convinces others that he must have hidden and superior leadership skills.

Can't forget that his father was a wartime hero, either. No one in the movie did.
True, Rob! Yet another fun parallel. It seems connections -- the luck of being born -- can get you just about anywhere.
Believe it or not, One of James Tiberius' fictional exploits became one of my best leadership (or followership) tools!

It seems that Kirk was the only Academy student to actually complete the impossible final exam. The exam was designed to have the student fail at some point. The rules would at some point, force the student into a fatal error.

Well, Kirk simply changed the rules so that he could win without breaking the rules.

Oh yeah.
Personally, I think the world would make a lot more sense were it run by Vulcans. But that's just me.
Ha! That's a campaign I would join. Except then I'd be known as "the emotional one," which is never a good thing to be known as on a campaign.
Ah, but you miss a couple of things. First, Kirk is very smart himself. He remembers Uhura's comments about her intercepted communication---even though he's just been interrupted from foreplay and is lying under the bed ogling her underwear-clad body at the time--and collates it with his own personal knowledge and experience and draws a quick (and correct) conclusion. He demonstrates this ability to collate data and reach a conclusion in a few places during the film.

Second, Kirk has a tendency to draw people to him that are loyal, yes, but also *highly competent*. This is a difference between Kirk and, say, a recent national politician. Yes, Kirk has a tendency to act impulsively, but he is aware he has a top-notch team to haul his ass out of trouble.

It is a worthwhile argument to make that Kirk in the TV show displayed the latter ability much more; Kirk in the film merely "inherits" the Enterprise crew (modulo Scotty), about which he knows little. (Counter argument--as Star Fleet's flagship, the Enterprise is stock to the brim with Star Fleet's top people, and it's not unreasonable for Kirk to assume this.)

But in short, Kirk inspires loyalty from profoundly *competent* people, as opposed to book-licking toadies from Freedom University; his expectation that they will excel is hardly unwarranted.

I have been re-watching the old shows, and as someone who always thought Kirk was an idiot who got his fat pulled out of the fire by his excellent crew, I have been amazed at how often *Kirk* is the one who comes up with the winning plans. e.g., in "The Doomsday Machine," it's *Kirk's* analysis that leads them to realize how to destroy the giant killer flashlight; not Spock, or Scotty, but *Kirk*. Spock merely confirms Kirk's hunch.

Just one Star Trek nerd's view.
I have to add that "looks" don't hurt.
Just saw that movie this weekend and the role of Kirk made me grit my teeth. So this is the character and personality that we, as Americans, admire and hold up as worthy of leadership?
Hee. This is a fun analysis. I’m with you on Americans looking for a Captain Kirk. Funny. I remember a comment in some book or other, about some French person’s opinion of JFK shortly after the Cuban missile crisis – that he was a good American cowboy. Romantic stuff. But only sometimes useful on planet reality.

I think D.Moran brings up the stuff most Trek lovers would say – that the character traits you mention are only part of the Kirk character, and they’re the ones they chose to emphasize in this action-packed opener. The character had legs because the guts and instinct part of the character were only part of his merits.

BTW – Did ‘ya see The Onion’s take on the movie?
Never mind my Q – I just remembered you commented on that Onion piece!
Well, first off, he's a wild west cowboy, and there's nothing more American than that. We like fierce independence and courage in a leader, so long as he is gorgeous and remembers to tip his hat and call us ma'am. Maybe Kirk is more like Ronald Reagan than he is Bush.

But beyond that, there's something you are getting wrong, here. Kirk's gambles don't "sometimes" work out. They ALWAYS work out. That's gotta say something. You know, there are people who see things the rest of us don't. Maybe not even consciously, in which case we chalk it up to "intuition" (and what woman is going to pooh-pooh intuition, I ask you!), or maybe because they just think faster and deeper than we do.

It seem to me that Kirk's gambles are not gambles, at all. He knows they will work. Spock tries to tell him his plan has only a 4.3% chance of success, but Kirk KNOWS it will work. He reassures Spock of that, and guess what! It works! Ta-daaaaaa!!! Just like Kirk said...every damn time.

The man has got something behind those sexy blue eyes.

And there is also something to be said for risk on principle's sake. He knew that if he didn't try something, Earth would surely be destroyed, and he was willing to risk his own life and crew to save all the billions of people on Earth. And thank goodness he did!

Kirk has the intelligence, judgment and good looks . . . er, I mean courage . . . that make for a great leader. It just seems to us lesser folk as if he's taking big risks. Obviously, since they work out 100% of the time, we should trust him.

Besides -- and I can't emphasize this leadership quality enough -- who wouldn't go for the gorgeous, rakish bad-boy, huh? HUH???

Yeah, that's what I thought.
I agree with much of what Dana said -- Kirk, and all of them, BTW, are presented as extremely talented and disciplined at what they do. So the "impulsive" decisions come in the context of people who have well-earned the right to their gut instincts. Also, Kirk's last big decision is actually a no-brainer for the reason Dana pointed out -- the other option leads to certain disaster.

If I may revise a Spock line (Holmes quotation): Once you have ruled out the paths to certain disaster, whatever remains, however risky, must be the choice.
I'd nominate Jean Luc for President over Kirk any day!
as dana points out, star trek is my favorite western. i haven't seen the new movie yet, but my husband and i have come to the same conclusion about kirk and his leadership. we even call tng "progressives in space". those dudes are not nearly as much fun to watch since they're so busy actually following that prime directive and all...
BTW, am I the only one that had trouble watching John Cho as Sulu without thinking, "Yeah, okay, but when is he going to ask Chekov to pass him a big spliff? Or when is Kumar going to come on board and accuse him of needing to relax?"

I was *extremely* surprised by Karl Urban as McCoy. I thought he was great; showed much more range than I would have expected after "The Lord of the Rings" films.
Here's how you can tell that Star Trek is science fiction: Starfleet is a hierarchic organization that actually rewards initiative, creativity, and the questioning of authority. This doesn't correspond to my experience with any human hierarchy, be it governmental, academic, or otherwise. All those aliens must put the humans on their best behavior or something.
I am completely enamored with you coining the term "kirkian"...love it.
Slightly off-topic, but since other women here are bringing up Kirk's looks...am I the only one who always thought Spock was hotter than Kirk?
Douglas, I'm with you on Urban -- I didn't even realize it was him until the end. Very nicely done! (And very funny to boot!)

Dana, David, and Douglas (the three D's!) -- I actually agree with you that Kirk over the long term is a good combination of skill and luck: luck putting him in the right places, but skill (like remembering Uhura's overheard transmission) giving him the chance to take advantage of those places. And all of the Trek shows worked to show their leaders had cowboy instincts but also Vulcan cool logic and a lot of insider's knowledge of How the Galaxy Works. Knowing the history (future?) of Kirk overall, sure, I can say he's a balance of the two.

But I don't think that the events in this movie made an air-tight case for Kirk As a Leader. Kirk as a persuader? Maybe. Kirk as able to trade on other people's knowledge of his family? Sure. But at every turn except one -- and that's that he remembered Uhura's translation and had read Pike's dissertation -- he benefits from circumstances that surround him. Kirk shows a lot of daring and courage and confidence in the film, but without a huuuuge dose of luck (or creative license -- like Dana said, things always work out for him), there's no way a cadet five minutes before is getting command of Starfleet's flagship vessel.

I'm really not arguing against James T. Kirk's leadership abilities over the full course of the Star Trek series. Just that in this movie, the question of whether he's good, or lucky, or both is left very open. Honest! I thought the movie was great!
Hm. I think Star Trek as a series has actually been pretty good about not crossing the line into disregarding other life. Ship captains throughout the series (and I haven't seen all iterations, I admit) are always working to make sure the citizens on board their ships are evacuated in case of danger and they offer assistance to even enemies in distress. There's also a lot more verbal and visible hand-wringing in these series about collateral damage, which is almost never an OK consequence of battle for the Federation.

Though this movie's Kirk does take enormous risks, once he's in a leadership position, he mostly takes big risks against a backdrop in which more people will be hurt if he doesn't do something than if he does (as Dana points out -- Earth will explode if he doesn't act). So while I can totally buy the point on Bond and Bourne with the escalation of casual violence, I don't think it's a fair criticism for the Star Trek series.

Though as a study of the changes in public willingness to tolerate violence, it's certainly interesting.
Fascinating convo!
The problem with the Real World Captain Kirks is that they don't have a Real World Spock to balance the equation.

The Reel World Kirk had a sensible, practical, logical partner who acted as this Kirk's reasonable and ethical adviser.

In the Real World, Spock would have a figure-head position like V.P. of Best Practices and the minute he gets in the way he would become unemployed.

"Live long and prosper!" Red-shirt guy who gets killed in the first 15 minutes of the episode.
Yes! The red-shirt guy! Funniest in-joke of the movie was C.Pine’s look @the red-shirt guy going (pre-death) gung-ho just before jumping out of the spacecraft to freefall onto that drill-thingus. I had a retroactive laugh all the way back to Galaxy Quest/Sam Rockwell crying to Sigourney Weaver that he was the designated red-shirt guy.

(And BTW – Thanks for not linking Dowd).
Point the first: Saturn, I agree completely. The jump to Captain was unearned. (Heinlein, for one, is spinning in his grave.) A brevet to Lieutenant, with an assignment as first officer on another, non-flagship "wessle" (where he could lead the away teams and justify the promotion) would be warranted. A brevet from cadet to Captain? That's *6 rank jumps* (Ensign, Lt. jg, Lt., Lt. Commander, Commander, Captain). It's silly. As the son of a Navy man, I had trouble swallowing that particular zone of "willing suspension of disbelief".

Or they could follow Navy tradition and promote him to Lieutenant, but give him command of some old rust-bucket (the Farragut?). He would still be "Captain Kirk," but his *rank* would be lieutenant. Even that would be an incredible jump for a still-green cadet, but it would be understandable.

Point the second: re: Galaxy Quest, maybe the reason Scotty doesn't die in the movie, even though he wears a red shirt, is because he's the plucky comic relief?
A consortium of otherwise talented men and women, kind of like Lincoln's apparently mythical cabinet of adversaries, a plan many thought Obama shared?
The "law of attraction," aka magical thinking: If you believe it fervently enough, it will happen? No one is as lucky as Kirk.
Is it me, or didn't we just elect Spock president?

thumbed and dugg
Glad you raised this issue, since it's one I wanted to talk about and it wouldn't make a good full post. I was just telling my wife recently what I had learned being on battalion staff in JROTC about this. It was Army, not Star Fleet (which I've had the impression is more like the Navy, or maybe Air Force). Classes were organized as companies, commanded by a Captain, and the classes were organized into a Battalion, commanded by a Lieutenant Colonel. I was a First Sergeant (loosely, the drill sergeant that marched a company around in practice exercises) my second year and on Battalion staff (a kind of desk job) my third/final year. On the staff, we watched over the way the battalion operated. And there was always a complication about company commanders: First, if they did well, the last thing you wanted to do was to promote them to a desk job. The good ones were not expected to be good at that. Captain was sort of the highest they were expected to go. Probably in the military they get to go higher, but I bet it's at the risk of the Peter Principle playing in. Moreover, they were often rogue in some way or another. But that feisty nature was something the real army guys training us explained that we were to tolerate and manage carefully. We were to let them know the rules and to nudge them into line, but to be wary of breaking them because the last thing we wanted was some second-class leader commanding a group of troops... you were likely to get some nerd (like myself) who was afraid of straying outside the lines when necessary. War is messy and the military is about fighting wars. We had guys with variations on that personality across the board in our company commander positions. The troops below loved to follow them and they were inventive and inspiring and powerful in competitions and training. (We had lots of that going on constantly, and it bred amazing spirit in people.) When I look at Kirk, I see him differently than you may. He's perfect for command of a starship.

But he's not perfect for being a Lieutenant Colonel or Admiral or whatever's above in the particular military in question. And in the context of your story, he's not perfect to run for public office. Different skill utterly. The charisma might help, sure. But the rule of law is not a war.

I'm so glad McCain didn't win the election. He may have been great in the military for all I know. But I don't think it qualified him at all to be President. He seemed to me like a gambler who was about to crash, and we could not afford to gamble more than is simply forced by circumstance. Obama can't avoid it entirely, but at least he's conservative in important ways.
The better question, perhaps, is "Is Obama Spock?" Hmmm...
"A brevet to Lieutenant, with an assignment as first officer on another, non-flagship "wessle" (where he could lead the away teams and justify the promotion) would be warranted."

I think that word is spelled "wessel." LOL!
My apologies; I never could spell worth a damn.
Wow, what a lively, interesting discussion from a thought-provoking post! Don't know if it's just me, but I think Shatner's Kirk might have been channeling JFK in some ways. Kirk had leadership qualities similar to Kennedy's, or at least it seems that way in retrospect, from watching JFK on film. It is interesting to consider that a James T. Kirk might never have existed, if Kennedy hadn't encouraged and sought America's participation in the space race. I find myself wishing sometimes that JFK had had a friend like Spock around... who knows how differently things would have turned out?
ZaZa, I was going to ask if you meant like Nixon had Kissinger as a Spock by his side, but maybe that's a bad analogy. :) Nixon was more of a Commodore Decker type of guy, and anyway probably would have been talked into calmly building a Doomsday Machine, not be perplexed by one's existence... Clinton and Gore are probably more fitting of the pairing you suggest. :)
Not a criticism, just being playful.
Clinton and Gore... yes, I like that analogy, Kent! Good call. As for Nixon, I can see the similarity to Commodore Decker, haha! Although Kirk was compassionate enough to feel sorry for what became of Decker, due to Decker's own fatal decision that compromised his crew, I don't see too many people feeling anything for Nixon but contempt. (For those who wonder about that, see Nixon's "bit part" in "Sicko" and you'll understand what I mean.) It still burns my butt that Kennedy, who motivated a nation into reaching out towards space, doesn't have his name on the plaque that is currently on the moon. The plaque that wouldn't even be there if Nixon had won instead of Kennedy.
"Here's how you can tell that Star Trek is science fiction: Starfleet is a hierarchic organization that actually rewards initiative, creativity, and the questioning of authority. This doesn't correspond to my experience with any human hierarchy, be it governmental, academic, or otherwise."

This is truly sad, and sadly true.
Ha. That is true, and sad, Leslie.
Saturn, this post of yours, and the ensuing discussion, and you in general just totally rock. I so enjoy reading you, and I don't comment enough, so I just thought I'd let you know.

You go, girl.
I watched the original series as a child. Even then I found Kirk to be rash... a swashbuckler.

He was lucky to have Spock and in his favor he listened. Bush had Cheney or Cheney had Bush.

Kirk was a risk taker and that creates drama. I need less drama in my life... so Kirk as President would just be too much for me. I can't shake and bake like the actors could as he put the ship through hell.

Spock? Now there's someone I'd vote for. Let Kirk be second in command so Spock can veto some of his more impulsive decisions.
Excellent post. I had a slightly similar conversation with my 14 year old daughter after we saw the film. My cynical take was that we knew who would end up as captain because it was a prequel and given the era of the original, we knew he would be human, male, white, straight and American.
"It's just a movie, Jim!!!...I'm a surgeon, damn it, not a film critic!!!"
Jay Busse: "Spock? Now there's someone I'd vote for. Let Kirk be second in command so Spock can veto some of his more impulsive decisions."

Yabut...Spock was gonna go confab with the federation and let Earth be destroyed. That's what you would vote for? Damn cowardly libs!
Hahaha, Joe Blow, that's the comment of the morning.

Thanks, Dana! And on the second comment, I agree, young Spock in charge might not be any better than young Kirk in charge, as I, too, am a fan of Earth surviving.