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MAY 13, 2009 8:36PM

Jindal Wins: Louisiana Loses Stimulus Funds

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Governor Bobby Jindal's rejection of $98 million in stimulus funding allocated to expand unemployment benefits in Louisiana will, apparently, stand, as a Louisiana House committee voted 6-3 today against a resolution to override Jindal's wishes.

Bobby Jindal - government photoThe House Labor Committee voted 6-3 against House Concurrent Resolution 8 by Democratic Rep. Rickey Hardy that would have been the first step in sidestepping the Republican governor's decision. Committee Chairman Avon Honey, a Democrat, sided with opponents of the measure.

Hardy, D-Lafayette, said unemployed workers need the expanded benefits to help them take care of their families and cope with the national recession.

"Surely we can agree that we would like to see our citizens benefit from the money being offered by the federal government... It's their money and they want it now," he said.

The stimulus money would give unemployment benefits to thousands of people who normally wouldn't be eligible for them, like certain part-time workers and people who leave jobs because of domestic abuse or a family member's disability, and it would expand benefits to some others, including those with dependents.

Jindal opposed Louisiana getting the money because "it does come with strings attached," according to his spokesman, namely that the increase in benefit allowance could increase businesses' unemployment tax levels down the road.

Louisiana's unemployment rate was 5.8 percent in March.  That's not one of the highest rates in the country -- it's in fact half of what unemployment is in Oregon -- but what that number hides is that government spending is a big part of the reason (h/t publius) that Louisiana's unemployment rate has been steady to begin with:

NEW ORLEANS — Years before Washington spent $787 billion on a national stimulus bill, it staged an unintended trial run in Louisiana, a huge injection of some $51 billion for which historians find few, if any, precedents in a single state.

The experiment is still playing out, but some indicators suggest that what occurred in Louisiana — dumping a large amount of reconstruction money into a confined space in the three and a half years since Hurricane Katrina — has had a positive outcome. The state’s unemployment rate of 5.7 percent in February was considerably below the national average of 8.1 percent, and it was the only state to see a drop in unemployment from December to January. It was also the only state with an increase in non-farm employment in February.

So Jindal and state lawmakers can rest easily, almost happily, on that cushion of federal aid that's keeping their unemployment low when they refuse to expand benefits.  In so doing, Jindal can throw down an impressive political gauntlet for whomever chooses to challenge him in 2012.  Look forward to a lot of, "Louisiana kept its unemployment low without taking needless monies from the government" ads.  (And then, let's hope, look forward to rebuttals about the $1 billion he's planning to add to the state's budget this year thanks to that same stimulus).

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So he's going to act like Superman when he's really protecting businesses who don't want to pay more in unemployment tax instead of helping out a state that could stand extra benefits about now...is that it? "He's so thrifty!"

That guy has given me the creeps from day one.
Good for Gov. Gilligan. He hung his constituents out to dry. One less red state soaking up blue state tax funds.
How did that guy get elected governor???? OOOH! lots of people left Louisiana after Katrina and refuse to come back...that's it.
@ zuma- Not just any type of people that left Louisiana, but mainly those along a certain demographic. I will always believe that the ShrubCo Inc. reaction to Katrina was part and parcel of their own Rove-inspired socio/political engineering project to change one of the last Southern Democratic strongholds.
It's okay, God will take care of Louisiana. And if any problems crop up, Jindal will exorcise them.
Hey, Kevin--I live in Louisiana!

As to how he got elected...he really was the best option in a cast of clowns....
Thanks Lee,

It's a hard one to explain. I can't say anymore as I'm a LA government employee. But, it was a complicated decision for all of us.

denese
Gov Gilligan?

Does anyone see the resemblance between Bill O'Reilly and Dr. Zachary Smith from the old 'Lost in Space'? Or is it just me?
Gov. Gilligan! I totally see it.

Sadly, I remember Lost In Space. I am sooo old.

Jindal is annoying if not downright creepy.
No surprise here, I know which former presidential aspirant is giving Jindal political advice:

Separated at Birth
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@Leeandra- Didn't mean to imply I was happy for Bobby's betrayal with my "red state using less blue state funds" comments. I hoped my opening sentence indicated that was intended with a bit of sardonic intent.

Being a couple of states over, though, I am tired of hearing those who receive the greater portion of federal funds bitch the most about the help they receive. I know that doesn't mean all and some of you are just as irritated by it as I am.
Right on, Beth.

Kevin, I kind of like the Gov. Gilligan tag. I think I've seen that with a hat graphic somewhere.

I was surprised to learn that the workforce in Louisiana had grown a little bit since last year, but not enough (I think) to make a dent in the exodus post-Katrina.

Great comments, all. It is frustrating, isn't it?
Where to start. Louisiana is kind of like Apartheid South Africa--the massive underclass, black and white, has no voice; the educated folks who should have known better long ago abdicated governance to the half-bright, pandering yahoos. Yes, Jindal was the only actual adult running for governor last time; that's why I didn't vote in that race. Put him in practically any other state and watch him vanish into obscurity; only in Louisiana could this far right evangelical fanatic with six month's actual administrative experience have become a political superstar. Sorry America; we're a work in progress down here.
HDNet Reports with Dan Rather had a spot on about the states that are protesting this stimulus. It detailed some place in the upper east coast as I remember.

It came down to whether the business community was willing to give what was termed a dollar for every working person in that state, just one dollar, and business after business the owners said 'NO!'.

I was struck by the low regard that those 'business people' had for their employees. Heck, many of them couldn't afford to live in the communities where they worked. Many were working two and three jobs. And the high and mighty business people wouldn't cough up a lousy dollar! Then the killer, one business owner laments about how 'tough things are' and that spending that extra dollar would kill the businesses that are blocking it, then he waxes philosophical about how he doesn't think he can keep his business running...

It's like they get it, but at the last second, they lose it. Tragic...
pardon my low-class post but he's an a-hole
Now, I'll never be able to think of Gilligan in the same way... as an innocent, constantly getting caught up in scrapes not necessarily of his own making, but rising to the occasion.

Surely, there must be a better cartoon character to illustrate Jindal's character...?
Can't we just give Louisiana back to the French?
@ktm -- follow my link posted in my comment above, and you'll see a much better comparison
As a Louisiana native -- and current resident -- I can offer some insight as to how Jindal got elected. Initially, the dude came off as a no-nonsense fiscal conservative who wasn't attached to any typical backwater dumbfuckery. As one of the other posters mentioned, he seemed like the only "adult" candidate for the office. I think we (Louisiana) thought we were making a grown-up decision to get someone different in office... someone who wasn't a crook (Edwards) or a good ole boy (Foster) or patently ineffectual (Blanco.)

Oh, and Steaming Pile -- tell us where you're from, so we can judge you and the rest of your fellow citizens by the boneheaded decisions of your elected officials. Then we can figure out who used to own your state and offer it back to them. :)
It's infuriating to recall this pathetic little man's response to Obama's State of the Union address. Jindal talked about his concern for the "unemployed," and how the strength of our nation "is in our people," and how the "way to lead is by empowering the American people."

And then, when through no fault of their own his own people are unemployed and suffering, he rejects money that could help thousands of them.

But this is what the oxymoronic "compassionate conservatism"is: lofty but empty sound bites that in the end abandon ordinary, desperate people to drown even when life jackets are available.
Once again the residents of Louisiana are bitch slapped by the republican party... But the 'haves' don't need what the 'have not' need...

The 30,000 foot view always looks better than the view from the ground...
Thank you Bunglermoose.

I was offended by your remarks Steaming Pile, and frankly those of lsujp but just didn't know how to respond articulately and not in a similarly trashy generalized kind of way. Mr. Moose did it for me.
I don't know that I would have characterized it quite the way he/she did, but I think lsujp does have a valid point -- at least, about the fact that we're a work in progress.

Trust me when I say that most of the folks who live here want things to get better... we're tired of being last on all the good lists and first on all the bad ones. We thought Jindal was a step in the right direction... then someone had to go and whisper "2012" in his ear.
I don't like what he is doing here. In principle, he has the right to reject aid if it has strings.
In practice, it looks secessionist, and a lot of people are talking that wy.
If you look up "Igor Panarin" this is what he wants for the United States. It would not be the first time that foreign powers found ambitious Americans willing to divide the country.
Maybe we should call him Bobby "Burr" Jindal. rated.
Louisiana workers: Come to New Jersey!! Leave those rich people who just got new homes in New Orleans (after they knocked yours down) to make their own creole dishes and figure out how to play instruments. Our Delaware Bay has a lot of shellfish, and it's not tainted anymore.
Mr. Bungler, I do live here and have for almost 16 years now. My problem is with LA-bashing when we're talking about the issue of one politico.

Believe me, I'm pushing for change as much as anyone.

d
Yep, he's a typical Republican, all right. Observe how casually he throws poor people to the wolves because it MIGHT mean some business has to pay a little more tax.

If he's really the best Louisiana has to offer, I'd be thinking seriously about moving.
Ms. Denese, I wholeheartedly agree. :)
The government should call his bluff and offer to cut all funding to Louisiana in next years budget.
Beth,

"he's really protecting businesses who don't want to pay more in unemployment tax"

Here is the basic problem with taking the federal money. Businesses don't pay taxes. Nope, not the first penny. Businesses only handle the money. If taxes are raised, businesses just collect the extra from you, their customer, and send it along to the state or feds.

They pay not a dime.
That's not always true, even as a way of looking at the problem, Catnlion. Some businesses will automatically raise their rates when taxes increase and pass that cost along to the customer; but some will find other ways to compensate for the increase, like cutting costs internally, that wouldn't automatically rebound onto consumers in cash.

Unless I'm misunderstanding your argument.
He doesn't resemble Alfred E Neumann by chance...I really don't trust this guy, and have even less respect than trust in him as a leader.
Saturn, you're close.

Business is going to do what it needs to do to produce the after tax income that it needs. Be that from a small business man who just has bills to play like the rest of us, or a large company who is trying to meet Wall Street predictions of what the share holders want and need.

When the government, federal, state or city, comes in and places a tax on the business that is money that needs to be made up somehow to prevent the shortfall to the owner, Wall Street or the stock holders. There are only two ways to do it, increase income or cut costs.

When I was in the restaurant business taxes were figured into the cost analysis just like the price of cheese. Yes I owned pizza restaurants. So if the price of cheese when up I first tried to increase prices. By increasing prices I was able to continue with the way I was doing things.

But what happens when the market can't stand a price increase? Then I had to attack cost. To do that I had to decrease services or lower the quality of the food I sold by using cheaper food items.

Somebody lost, and it wasn't me. I took home each year what I needed. The people who paid were the ones who found the quality or service less or the price higher. I just flowed the money to someone else be it a food supplier or the tax man.

The reason higher prices is the first option is unless you are at the market limit for price people will pay for what they want at the quality level they want. You can go to Pizza Hut or you can go to CiCi's Pizza. Both good, but for different reasons.
Saturn, sorry missed a point.

You are right that it wouldn't ''automatically rebound onto consumers in cash.", but it will rebound to them in some fashion, cash, quality, or service.