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JUNE 28, 2009 6:56PM

Milbank v. Pitney: Who Should Be at the Press Conference?

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Last week, after Nico Pitney asked his now-controversial question at President Obama's press conference, Dana Milbank wrote a column about it.  I used to like Dana Milbank; his book on the 2000 election was sharp and funny, and actually posited a theory about negative campaigning that I found sound.  His work since then, particuarly at the WaPo, has been less interesting; in fact, his work gives the same sense that Bob Woodward's work often does, that he's writing toward his next book publication, and thus has to keep his friends close and his subjects closer.

Milbank's column includes this:

The use of planted questioners is a no-no at presidential news conferences, because it sends a message to the world -- Iran included -- that the American press isn't as free as advertised. But yesterday wasn't so much a news conference as it was a taping of a new daytime drama, "The Obama Show." Missed yesterday's show? Don't worry: On Wednesday, ABC News will be broadcasting "Good Morning America" from the South Lawn (guest stars: the president and first lady), "World News Tonight" from the Blue Room, and a prime-time feature with Obama from the East Room.

Well, there's a problem with this.  Everyone's essentially a planted questioner in a Presidential Press Conference.  It's not like they open up the doors and invite in random citizens off the street.  The whole thing is always pretty damn scripted -- and that is, in part, because of the laziness of journalists like Milbank, who count on their status as Washington Post reporters to stand in for actually earning their spot in the sun.

I agree with Milbank that we do go further down a dangerous road when the president specifically invites someone to ask a specific question on a specific topic just so he can get a specific message out.  What's more ridiculous, however, is that Obama knew he'd have to invite someone to get a decent question on Iran (and, in this case, from people in Iran, which was the president's invitation).

It's also ridiculous for Milbank not to see himself as part of the problem.  Which brings us to this Sunday's interview on Howie Kurtz's "Reliable Sources," which is neither reliable nor regularly worth using as a source of information.  Let's go to the tape (h/t Smooth Like Remy):



Essentially, Milbank and Pitney call each other hacks, and Howie Kurtz tells them to take it outside lest an actual discussion of journalistic ethics break out on his cozy little chat show.  The interesting part of this was where Milbank used posts from Huffington Post to attack Pitney -- posts that Pitney, it seems, didn't write.

Now, we can probably agree that Huffington Post does have exactly the slant that Milbank says it does -- but the entire site isn't a homogenous outfit.  Blaming Nico Pitney for the frivolities of HuffPo's publication is a bit like saying, "Well, Dana Milbank, you work for the Washington Post, so why do you think Global Warming is a hoax?"

Of course, for Milbank to recognize that, he'd have to recognize that Huffington Post is an actual news source whose bloggers do actual reporting, which makes it harder to reduce the discussion to "but but but you WRITE for the INTERNET!" as he wants to.  To say that HuffPo is less worthy because it takes a side is fine -- unless you work for a paper that's recently dismissed its best, critical, liberal writer in order to better shore up its position as the conservative outlet of choice.

I'm not completely on board with Ana Marie Cox's reasons for throwing out the press conference completly, but I'd love to see the doors at the White House getting opened up to those who've earned the seats -- those who write news stories and traffic in fact, not just those who show up for the fireworks and friendly banter. blogspot visit counter

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This isn't being sarcastic, I do look forward to the day when the President calls out "Saturn, you have the next question".
And then Dana Milbank sold his soul for access. Oh my.
Ha! Thanks, ocular. That's very kind.

Stacey, I'm not sure what the trade-in value is on souls these days, but it does seem a likely exchange.
I'm still waiting for that Transparancy Obama promised us.
When did the HuffPo become a news platform? If they are going to use them to ask questions, which elevates their status from blog to new org., then I think Saturn should get a chance at Obama. While I don't agree with her writing all the timed I'm sure her question would not be a plant.

Where do we vote for Saturn to ask the next question. BTW, I'm serious about this one.
I'm not proud to say it, but I actually watched Howie this morning. I don't think I could stomach seeing these two have their spitfest again, so I'm taking this from memory (and what a waste of precious brain cells it is). First, I couldn't find sympathy for either. Second, I almost laughed when Milbank pulled out his folder of "evidence" against Pitney, which made me wonder if Howie gave Dana a heads-up that Pitney would be a guest. You know, enough of a heads-up to give Dana the time to pull together his file. It kind of looked like an ambush.

Milbank is one of Howie's regulars and Howie's got the back of any "serious" journalist, especially from the Post. [as an aside, for all of Howie's jabbering about ethics, he never mentions upfront that he works for the Post. He never mentions that any guests from the Post are his colleagues.] And if Howie can make a liberal look silly, well, his wife will be very happy.

I can see this is turning into a diatribe against Howie. I'll just leave it with: any discussion in which Amanda Carpenter is the most reasonable panelist, God help the state of modern journalism.
You're doing your usual Grade A+, number one work, Saturn. Keep up the good work.
At this point, it is hopelessly manipulated, and you just read history, and the subtext is obvious.
I think newspapers and print journalists are getting crabby and crotchety as their existence runs out... They're the buggy-whip makers complaining to each other about the newfangled horseless carriages...
Our federal system does not allow itself to be scrutinized in any meaningful way. From document classification to choreographed pressers, the system is set up to resist the forces of open government. It is too simplistic to say the Executive and the Congress and the Courts and the 4th Estate and both major political parties are all in cahoots, but the system has been built up in such a way that they might as well be. This is a tempest in a teapot, and the pot calling the kettle black, is all this is.

The real stories are elsewhere, and almost impossible to get at. Why, although there was no one pushing for it besides the telecoms, did a telecom immunity bill pass? Because both parties, along with the Congress and the Executive had something to hide that was so antithetical to our laws that the only way to hide it was to pass laws to ensure that no one was ever punished for the massive lawlessness, no one would be sued, no information about the crimes would ever be brought to light. This, in an atmosphere where almost no "responsible" news outlet raised a peep. Now, why is this? What was so terrible that all those people worked together in order to keep it hid? No press conference format is going to bring it to light, I can tell you that.
Rich, I agree; the format is counter the function in many ways.

Stim, every time I venture near Kurtz's work, I'm troubled. His pieces in the Post aren't even any fun anymore.
For some reason my computer doesn't do audio very well. So, I didn't hear most of the exchange. But I can't help think that there are a couple of other sub-texts for the Milbank/Pitney tiff. First, HuffPost and liberal bloggers in general are very tough on the mainstream media and people like Milbank are sensitive to the criticism. HuffPost and TPM are also proving to be tough competition for the urban liberalized audiences that the Washington Post relies on. Given that Nico Pitney was the go-to guy on Iran, the competition element must have been particularly annoying to Milbank after the news conference.
Yeah, Ric, I definitely think they see HuffPo and Politico and TPM as threats -- and strangely, they seem to have decided to trend rightward as a way to recapture audience share. Bizarre logic, but maybe it is, as you suggest, about finding no friends for standard media on the left.
***I'm not completely on board with Ana Marie Cox's reasons for throwing out the press conference completly,***

Ana Marie Cox is such a loser. She's all about her own snarkiness, and little else.
Great job, Saturn. I echo those who are waiting to see you there. Great point about how all the journalists at the press conference are planted.
You don't see many jounjralists who work for McClatchy asking questions. They are among the best "truth to Power" journos around.
Check Milbank's history of being a third-rate hack at The Daily Howler. This is from 1999.

Then see the real reason that Milbank has his knickers in a twist about the Huffington Post.
"Everyone's essentially a planted questioner in a Presidential Press Conference. It's not like they open up the doors and invite in random citizens off the street. The whole thing is always pretty damn scripted -- and that is, in part, because of the laziness of journalists like Milbank, who count on their status as Washington Post reporters to stand in for actually earning their spot in the sun". Snap!

Brilliant, just brilliant. I would much rather read you than anyone else out there, Saturn. Hopefully, someone scoops you up before we lose you to law school...Joan, Kerry, hint, hint...
Saturn,
Thank you for yet another thoughtful, excellent, article.

President Obama’s manner of asking Nico Pitney the question fairly well dismissed any notion that Nico Pitney was a plant or offering a planted question - at least if the actual purpose of a “plant” is to appear unrehearsed and normal.

Dana Milbank may intentionally or incidentally make Nico Pitney appear to be “Jeff Gannon” (James Guckert) - but, clearly, that is not the case.

I believe this is more than a rivalry being played out between those who style themselves as part of the “old school” print media (which most are certainly not) and online journalists in general. I believe this is a case of what “dog” each party “has in the fight.”

To infer that journalists have no agenda or motive is fairly disingenuous. The important question is what the agenda or motive of the journalist in question is.

If the motive is to grab a headline or create a sensationalistic story line - no matter the cost - that should be fair game to condemn.

If, however, personal integrity was the “dog” that each journalist “had in the fight” I doubt we would be seeing too many of these school yard squabbles.

“Everyone is a prisoner of his own experiences. No one can eliminate prejudices - just recognize them.”
-Edward R. Murrow

Rated and appreciated as always
Well put, Dennis! Personal integrity indeed.

Lalucas, thanks for the good wishes!