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SEPTEMBER 6, 2009 2:01AM

Van Jones Resigns: Bad News for Activism?

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The Associated Press reports tonight that Van Jones, the so-called Green Jobs Czar in the Obama administration, has resigned. Though Jones has always been a bit controversial to conservative pundits, the tipping point for the White House seems to have been the revelation this week of his signature on a 2004 petition from 911Truth.org, which "calls for immediate public attention to unanswered questions that suggest that people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war."  In his statement, Jones said:

I have been inundated with calls -- from across the political spectrum -- urging me to "stay and fight." But I came here to fight for others, not for myself. I cannot in good conscience ask my colleagues to expend precious time and energy defending or explaining my past. We need all hands on deck, fighting for the future.


A video of Jones calling Republicans "assholes" at a February Q&A at Berkeley also surfaced this week (let's go to the tape) and kicked off what has probably been about the worst week of Jones' life. There's been no shortage of right-wing criticism of Jones since he took the job in May, particularly from Glenn Beck. Beck has been on something of a Van Jones rampage -- and I'm sure this is a coincidence -- since he found his show facing an advertising boycott last month organized by a group that Jones founded. The group, Color of Change, is protesting Beck's July statement that President Obama is a racist.

So that's the news.  What's the commentary? I think this is sad. Yeah, having read the 911 petition, which is pretty short, I think that was a stupid move on Jones' part, particularly if, as is part of his defense, he didn't read it that closely before signing. Even assuming he read it, the language, while inflammatory, is calling for a lawful investigation, not any kind of revolution or violent action. It's asking a question. Is it an offensive question? Yeah, to a lot of people. But it's still a question, and Jones's signature -- like that of the other 98 Notable Americans (including Ed Asner, of all people) and about 50 family members of 9/11 victims -- means he supports looking at the question more completely, not that he's found the answer.

Van Jones, Human Rights Defender, via
The Collage Foundation.

Beyond that, and getting to this issue of whether it was inappropriate for Jones to call Republicans (and himself) "assholes" before he took a job with the administration, well, right here you have the reason that White House after White House is filled with tepid, self-protecting fans of the status quo rather than progressive go-getters. If you fill a house with activists, this kind of stuff is going to come up. People who feel things passionately -- as Jones clearly feels for the issue of creating green jobs -- speak passionately and act passionately. That can certainly be to their detriment, but I think quite often this kind of passion and commitment is to the benefit of their cause. It should be harnessed, maybe tamed, but not so quickly held against them.

The decision the administration made not to defend Jones is understandable, I guess, because they feel they need to spend political capital elsewhere. At some point, though, you run out of political capital in the other direction -- no one wants to work for a White House that doesn't defend its ardent supporters.

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I'm not sure what to make of this, but 9/11 conspiracy theory guys always raise eyebrows. I'm sure that Obama could have weathered this storm. I have to admit I know very little about Jones.
But I am first on a Saturn Smith post:)
I am so unqualified for journalism or for a public position. Those people are too happy with minimalist language that talks and talks, yet says nothing.

I just don't understand this conciliatory obsession. Is it true conciliation or a cover for aversion to confrontation, i.e. a disposition to weakness?

And where is Rahm Emmanuel, the so called "pit bull"? Has he been effective in anything?

Rated by the light of the moon. Dance with us on Saturday night, Saturn. We're taking a brief break from the madness.
You said it so well, Zuma. There seem to be two sets of rules in this country for political discourse. This fills me with despair, why all the conciliatory gestures to the right? I do not get it, and I do not want to get it. I want Obama and his pals to get it. We are supposed to be in charge. The right is a noise machine. Cripes.
Hee. Congrats, Roger. I think he could've weathered it, too, but -- maybe there's more out there. Beck's been talking a lot about Jones self-identifying as a marxist or something, too. Bah.

Zuma, I'm happy to join the dance and step back from the madness a bit. It does get... maddening. I think Rahm's so far been most effective as what he's always been most effective at -- he's a pit bull for compromise, a man who "makes hard choices" -- choices that drive everyone further to the center (right).

Noise machine -- great image, latethink. Cripes, indeed.
The Obama administration has yet to draw a line in the sand. The "no drama" approach may have worked as a campaign mechanism but it is not a competent approach to governing in an environment which requires taking a well reasoned position and taking a stand on that position unless and until bipartisan compromise causes a "dramtic" shift in order to accomplish a goal that is at least partially beneficial to all concerned....
The 9/11 petition is such a credibility killer. When your job description involves a large dose of convincing people to look at the recognized facts, not the fringe "science," connecting yourself with people who are radicalized around fringe science is a FAIL.
What Spectacular said. Jones had no credibility at all. Just another angry community organizer who couldn't focus on facts, just inflammatory rhetoric, like his unfounded accusation that white people are purposely poisoning the black community. Really Jones? Sounds like Pastor Jeremiah Jones and his accusation that the U.S. Gov't invented AIDS to kill off the black community. This isn't discussion, it's careless bearing of false witness against your neighbors.
I would have liked to see the white house defend him. I don't know what else to say. I'm not a 9-11 conspiracy theorist, but I'd like to say that asking questions about anything that happens in this country shouldn't be illegal, or grounds for losing a job.
Thank you (rated).

I like both you and Mr. Sirota's pieces on this today. I am so very saddened by the politics of the moment and I appreciate your enlightening presentation on the subject.

Tim4Change wrote an exceptional critical thought piece today, too, it really made me think. You all rock my world.

Would appreciate your support on my post tomorrow - kind of need some eyes on it for it to "work". May be a bomb, but, a girl's got to try. :)
You should not have to lose your job because you may have signed an ill-advised petition. That is my thought on it. You have republicans making racist remarks about Obama more times than I can count, elected officials, doubting his citizenship. And now this guy who may be a racist asshole 911 theorist loses his job.
P.S. I read twice. Your last line hit a real nerve with me, I understand the political capital argument, too, but I concur, I am a little tired of a "white house that doesn't defend it's ardent supporters."

Touche'

Actually, to his detriment, GWB did this, didn't he? To bad this administration can't harness the quality for the common good!
A person that has never had an opinion that is controversial is a person that will never be effective in bringing about change. For example, our current president...

The reason that the Republicans can get away with these sorts of things is because their base is not filled with hyper-sensitive types that will grudge on someone for minor infractions.

He should defend himself. Instead of the constant apologizing, it would be nice if, even once, a politician would stand up for what they believe in and explain why they did what they did.

A simple "Well, there's a lot of information out there about the 9/11 attacks that is unreconciled and unexplained and I would like to see an honest, open, transparent investigation into these allegations." probably would have done the trick.

Maybe the White House isn't defending him because he refused to defend himself.
so long van jones we hardly knew ye.
hope this does not signal a new precedent of a sort of 911 conspiracy mccarthyism
disagreement with another comment. 911 truth is not FRINGE SCIENCE in fact it is REAL SCIENCE. eg intl team of scientists/phds, incl americans, finding NANOTHERMITE in the dust. more details in my blog
go on talking, go on supporting your team, go on being active- and this what you get.

insanity: putting the same materials into the same system and expecting a different result.
Shades of Clinton and Joycelyn Elders.

Just another example of what pathetic losers Obushma and the Dems are. No spine, No policies. No change. No chance.