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Saturn Smith

Saturn Smith
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Everything posted here, and more random thoughts, are also posted at my web site: http://kepkanation.com.

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NOVEMBER 13, 2009 2:29PM

Thanks, CNN, for making Lou Dobbs

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Lou Dobbs via GawkerEvery piece I've read so far about the sudden (if not unexpected) resignation of Lou Dobbs has mentioned the same fact: Lou Dobbs was one of the charter CNN anchors. Maybe this is because Mr. Dobbs himself mentioned that during his good-bye broadcast, calling himself "the last of the original anchors here on CNN." Though most pieces use this to describe how Dobbs has changed, there's a better -- sharper -- argument to be made. If Lou Dobbs helped start CNN, if Lou Dobbs has at times been crucial to its success, if Lou Dobbs was once so friendly with CNN that they trumpeted his 2001 return with ads I still remember, hailing him as a returning hero -- then did Lou Dobbs make CNN, or did CNN make Lou Dobbs?

(Hint: It's the latter).

In all of the pomp and lack of circumstance surrounding Dobbs' departure, CNN's news chief, Jonathan Klein, seems at pains to suggest that the split is because CNN is too objective for Dobbs' tastes. In both his official statement and his e-mail to staff, Klein said, "Lou has now decided to carry the banner of advocacy journalism elsewhere," presumably implying that banner wasn't welcome at CNN.

Maybe it isn't. But it has been for at least eight years during the Dobbs reign, and for CNN to now play-act like this is an amiable break-up of two entities who've changed independent of each other's influences is, well, crap.

CNN has been relentlessly ratings-focused for years. Check out any of their prime-time news shows on any given night, and you'll see programming that isn't primarily focused on reporting on the important stories of the day -- you'll see a newscast designed to get the most popular news to the most people. Don't believe me? Just count the gimmicks. If it's not John King and his magic wall -- which you'll now be seeing during the former Dobbs hour -- it's the supremely lame "Girl Reads Blogs" segment that keeps popping up, or their much-touted partnership with Facebook. CNN also devoted hours of coverage to the Caylee Anthony story, not just on Nancy Grace's hour but on its flagship AC360 show.

Anderson Cooper Chart (Gawker)In fact, AC360 and its host, Anderson Cooper, pretty much completely encapsulate the CNN Popularity Game Plan. Cooper has been touted as "a reporter who's got that magical something" by no less than Jon Klein, and the show is promoted probably more on the strength of Cooper's personality than on his access to sources. Post-Katrina, when Cooper was standing in New Orleans and screaming for help, he was getting not only  high ratings but also a ton of attention for the network, behavior that's been rewarded with continued anchorship of a two-hour flagship prime-time newscast.

Dobbs must have learned this lesson over years at CNN. Bringing more eyes to the screen meant getting more network attention. When he published his book, Independents Day, Dobbs managed to snag interviews on all of CNN's major shows, including with Anderson Cooper -- some nice cross-marketing that must have benefitted both CNN and Dobbs himself.

For CNN to now act like Lou Dobbs magically decided to get radical and start yelling denies that CNN encourages its anchors and commentators to yell, to scream, to draw attention as much to themselves as to the news they're reporting.  CNN: The Most Trusted Name in News is also, after all, CNN: The Creator of Crossfire.

I'm glad to see Lou Dobbs gone (though I do worry about where he'll land), but I'm sorry that his departure has encouraged CNN to brag about its own objectivity and hard-news focus. Far from being the network too objective to contain him, CNN birthed Lou Dobbs by encouraging him to seek higher ratings and more viewers, to use more gimmicks, to create himself as a character delivering finely-tuned reports to an eager audience. That he's now an uncomfortable fit for the network is a mark of its success at beating the news-drive out of its stars, and one that, really, they should be addressing in his absence, unless they want to see a John King book, Royally Pissed, hitting shelves by 2012.

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Thanks, Saturn. If anyone can get this story to the cover, you can. People tend to forget that Lou Dobbs was initially primarily a business anchor, and already went away once in his rocky tenure. I knew during the port security scandal he was moving too far into advocacy journalism for CNN (MSNBC and FOX thrive on different ends of it, but both do it). I'm hearing he's off to pursue political office, but would like some independent reliable confirmation of that.
Yeah, I, too, am really interested in what his options for office would be at this point, Kathy. I can't see him in the House, no matter how he talks about being a common man, and if he's still a resident of New Jersey -- that's where his 300-acre horse farm is, I believe -- there's no Senate seat ready for him for at least 4 years.
You make some very astute observations. In CNN's early days as the new, exciting kid on the block they built a reputation as the place to go for breaking news. They'd provide actual reporting. Now in light of their cable competition, not only have they dumbed down their reporting, the anchors have the stench of test-marketed blandness.
They really are bland, Stim, you're right. I think they still excel at breaking news -- but now they try to make everything into breaking news or a crisis, instead of focusing on good, long-term reporting.
It was always all about the money and the ratings. Well done.
"Here's your hat, Lou; what's your hurry?" Classic parting of the ways of two parties that clearly detest each other. Although personally, I would love it if, some day, a firing would be accompanied by an actual, honest press release. "We canned his ass because he's become a hooting, raving, demented maniac."

And yo, why does the Anderson Cooper wheel not talk about his "hotness" factor? Just his eyes? I don't think so.
You know, Saturn, these are very good points. I hadn't really thought of it in these terms, but you're absolutely right. Oooh and can anyone forget that weird George Lucas inspired hologram on election night?
Great analysis...bravo!
Ach, another old pink white guy in my face!

As the country descends into fascism, the people have become more faithful to ideology—not intellectually adherent, but faithful, as in blood oaths, loyalty tests, and patriotic songs-- and more polarized. Can anyone even remember the days when, say, Ted Kennedy and Bob Dole could get together and, despite their ideological differences, work together in good faith on drafting a piece of legislation? Those days are now long gone, as we’ve seen in the health care reform pantomime.

In this ideologically polarized time, people are also seeking out news that reinforces their ideological bent. That’s right: they no longer want objective news of any sort, and they are actively seeking out propaganda. By far the best purveyor is Fox, and their ratings show it. Remember that FOX has viewership twice that of its nearest competitor, MSNBC, the liberal player in the game, and CNN is slipping even farther behind, as neither fish nor fowl. CNN is that anachronism, an actual relatively objective news outlet. Remember when that was a token of esteem? Talk to a regular Fox viewer; they have literally no idea what is actually going on in the world, and talking to them is like talking to the living embodiment of the Two-Minute Hate from Orwell.

Dobbs will go his way, and CNN will go theirs. I’m betting that Dobbs will end up on Fox after a decent interval of transition. I certainly can’t see him actually in politics; I don’t think he has the attention span, and I don’t think he can raise money effectively enough. CNN will be fine; they still have a stable roster of advertisers that rely on them to reach rational and influential decision makers in a prime demographic.
Saturn,
Lots of insight in this piece. Unlike many others I believe CNN was not happy about Dobbs departure. I felt that Lou Dobbs was to CNN what Miramax is to Disney. He drew viewers, controversy, and ratings that CNN would not have otherwise attracted.

Rated and appreciated.
I predict a Lou Dobbs, Teabagger Party run at POTUS in 2012. Maybe Sarah can be his running mate.
Great job. As Dobbs became more shrill, I watched CNN less and less. What used to really amaze me was watching his hair color fade to gray, then turn reddish orange again, then fade, then BAM! Orange again. But in the end, my morbid fascination with his silly vanity could not drown out his anti immigrant rants. Who knows what he will look like the next time I see him.
The thing that used to make me tune in, Bill, was the poll. His poll questions were always ridiculous, and always worded something like: Do you agree with Lou Dobbs or are you stupid? Then they'd report the results like news: 78% of our viewers agreed...

I will miss that bit of comedy.

Thanks for the comments, folks. OLN, you've named my worst fear, but also perhaps a cherished dream: Dobbs/Palin? Palin/Dobbs?
"advocacy journalism" --- just the phrase makes me want to puke. Why doesn't advocacy suffice?

He is indeed an uncomfortable fit for his network, because his profitability is waning. Time for CNN to promote the next cash cow and milk it for all it is worth.
Lou Dobbs is a Maverick. He does what he feels is right or better yet what he wants to do. This is one guy who answers to no one because he is usually a lot smarter then his superiors and foes. I say one thing about Lou Dobbs like him or hate him he stands up for what he believes in.
I'd believe that a little more, DemNow, if he in any way lived the life that he seems to make the most money talking about. If he's so deeply concerned about the war on the middle class and all of the disappearing jobs out there, why doesn't he put his book proceeds into forming some kind of business? The Lou Dobbs Bakery and Management school, for instance. Give the middle class working man a chance, Lou!

Seems a better investment in money-where-mouth-is than a 300-acre horse farm in New Jersey, or bespoke suits.
I hope he's not dying more than before.
He had a soapbox for preaching hate for much too long and you are as always spot on. Glad to see you back ;0)
It cracks me up that so many people regard Lou Dobbs as an advocate of anything. It's really only his enemies that make him seem as such. He laid out facts about, for one MAJOR example, illegal immigration, then a gazillion "advocacy" groups began attacking him for the facts he presented, then, suddenly, he was being called an advocate because the advocacy groups said he is against them.

I suppose Dobbs had an agenda to a degree -- in that he chose what topics to tackle. But all shows on TV have that type of agenda. You can't talk about everything -- or nothing -- for an hour per night. It's really a shame that we've all become such spoiled babies to the point that we can't even form and push our own beliefs so we need to have our feelings delivered to us. Immigration advocacy groups didn't like Lou? Why didn't they advocate their points to people then, on their own dime and time, instead of attacking the man who presents facts that shed there points in a negative light? Whatever happened to, "I disagree with this person, so I would now like to have people hear MY point of view?" Can't some groups trust the righteousness of their causes to believe that people will see things their way, via explanation and not obliteration of the messenger delivering facts that may work against them?

The only thing about this whole departure that has me curious, is, if it was indeed not an amicable bye-bye, then who paid what to CNN to get rid of Dobbs? I'm guessing an advocacy group got the right sized sack of dough into the pockets of someone down there at CNN...
Ted Turner made CNN. That's why it acts so crazy.
I dont care where Dobbs ends up, as long as its not here in Colorado to promote Tom Tancredo for Governor. They'd make a good fit, those two, but like the rest of the corporatists that yell louder and louder not to look at the man behind the screen, they are destroying what was once a proud democracy.
"CNN birthed Lou Dobbs by encouraging him to seek higher ratings and more viewers, to use more gimmicks, to create himself as a character delivering finely-tuned reports to an eager audience."

Exactly. CNN actually bothers me more than Fox in a lot of ways. With Fox, normal people realize it's agitprop, whereas CNN still has this undeserved rep from decades back of being the most trustworthy cable news outlet, so people are taken in. I can't watch them for more than 5 minutes without wanting to vomit.
What really worries me deeply, deeply, is that Dobbs was the only major new anchor who cared about the average working person

he is not the slightest bit hating of immigrants
he was totally wrongly slimed

but the working people have spent all their time destroying him over false nonsense while the situation of the average American worker continued to decay to the point of no return

deeply, deeply troubling
True Kathy. His book "War on the Middle Class" How the governement, big business and special interest groups are waging war on the American Dream and How to fight back is excellent. And he wrote if before the Goldman-Sachs scandal and before the bailouts of Wall Street so he had his finger on the pulse of what was going to happen.
Good post. CNN lost credibility with me when Glenn Beck showed up on HLN. Glad he's on Fox where he belongs, but I still see CNN just how you describe it - all about ratings.
I watched an interview with Ted Turner a while back, and he was disgusted with CNN. I think that he cited Lou Dobbs as one of the problems.

But how can Dobbs run for office with his citizenship in question? Is his citizenship in question? What is it about Delicias, Mexico, anyway.
In Lou's case, it's all pomposity and circumstance.
Rated. I hope he has a nice life, elsewhere...
Of everyone, I feel sorriest for Campbell Brown. John King, bless his soul, is the human equivalent of Ambien. Nobody is going to be left awake for her show.

As for Lou, while I certainly disagreed with MANY of his views, I was a pretty regular viewer and will miss his show. He did better work on issues like the economy and the health care debate in his one hour a night than the rest of the network does in their ongoing coverage.

And I never once had to suffer through a stupid YouTube video during his program.

For CNN to try to project itself as a "objective" news source, they'd have to get rid of James Carville, Fran Townsend, Paul Begala, Bill Bennett, Alex Castellanos, Donna Brazile, Mary Matalin, Gloria Borger.... You know what every single one of those people are going to say before they say it -- and so, what's the point of saying it?
Hey, folks, I got hit with a flurry of spam comments in the middle of this, so I missed a lot of the late additions to the comment stream. First, thanks for keeping the commentary going. I do appreciate it, and the interesting contrasting points of view.

Heather, I want to like Campbell Brown, but she drove me crazy as a substitute on AC360 before she got her own show. The times I've watched it, she's been as willing to depend on screaming headlines to draw in viewers as anyone else on the network, to the detriment of the actual topic being covered. Under her No Bias banner, she often tries to devote equal time to both sides of an issue, which sounds like a great idea on paper, until you realize that some issues don't have two equally credible sides.
Hey, Saturn, et al--

You do know that Lou's wife is MEXICAN-AMERICAN?

Debi Segura was a sports anchor--and one of the few women--on CNN when they signed on in 1981. Lou hosted "Moneyline" back then and was a cracker-jack reporter. (I was laid off back then and watched a lot of TV.)

He was also married then. Later on he divorced this then-wife, then married Debi, whom he met on the job.

It would be interesting to know the documented status of Debi's family members, not to mention what she thinks of her husband's rants...