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NOVEMBER 19, 2009 4:52PM

Giuliani out, and maybe in, in 2010.

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Rudy Giuliani in 2008There's word today that Rudy Giuliani is not going to run for governor of New York in 2010, but that he's probably going to challenge Kirsten Gillibrand for the same Senate seat he started to run for in 2002. The New York Daily News says this is all part of a plan to position himself for a 2012 presidential challenge.

Pop quiz: Where do you go after you lose a presidential election? Disneyworld, Rudy, not Crazytown. Let's recap some of the major career highlights for Mr. Giuliani since leaving office in 2002:

  • He's had an extremely public and acrimonious divorce from his second wife, which was finally settled for about $7 million and was apparently so bitter that he's been estranged from both of his children.
  • He's kept some bad company, most notably Bernard Kerik. Kerik, who Giuliani went into business with and also encouraged President Bush to appoint as director of Homeland Security, is currently in jail and recently pled guilty to eight felonies. He faces at least 2 years in prison.
  • He ran a presidential campaign that bordered on the bizarre, skipping entire state primaries on the premise that Rudy just couldn't lose.

Stack on top of that any number of headline-grabbing personal and professional decisions (the recent kick-up about his aggressive, divisive campaigning on Mayor Bloomberg's behalf comes to mind) and most reasonable people would conclude that 2010, just like 2008 and 2002, will not be Rudy Giuliani's year.

It's hard for me to understand who might be advising Rudy Giuliani these days, other than the notable firm Rudy Giuliani's Ego LLC. If he really wants to prove he's back in the game of leadership, perhaps the best step to take right now might be, well, to exercise some leadership, to spend time building a positive reputation based on something other than visible leadership during a terrible time. Now is not the time to launch another campaign based on the same set of accomplishments and skills that haven't managed to win over the state or the country yet.

To run again with the same résumé as always is the ultimate show of arrogance. Go out and do something, Giuliani, instead of trading on a name that's lost significant value since its high-water mark in 2001. Then come back and use the experience to lead.

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First! Yep. What is it with these bag of losers : the G, Whitman, Fiorina? Do they have more money than good sense?
Politico found a Rudy spokesperson who says the Senate run isn't true. Not that I trust Politico. Either way what you say about Rudy's ego and him not changing his message is very true. If I may take a slight detour -- why is Rudy getting booked as a talking head? He has no more expertise than he did in 2008, when Rudy showed that he was a one- (lame) trick pony. The Republican base doesn't like him, yet even Fox still books him. Fox has a wide variety of know-nothing blowhards to choose from. Is this just a matter of the New York/Beltway media being unable to get past the "America's Mayor" myth?
i think it's over for rudi and he knows it. the kerik scandal was frosting on the cake for new yorkers. he was only elected when the city was fed up with vagrants and the only thing he did of his own volition was sweep them off the streets. we are still trying to figure out where he put the bodies.
L&P, I think you hit it right on the head: more money than anything.

Stim, good to know about the Politico report. I saw the NYT wasn't going that far and wondered if that might be a sign that it's a fairly shaky piece of news. I think you're right, too, that he's not a very good talking head, except that his head is recognizable. Sad that that's all it takes to get on TV these days.

I hope he knows it, Ben Sen, but I haven't yet seen the proof, y'know?
To an electorate that elected George W. Bush twice into office, I'd say Gulliani is a shoe in. Especially since he got saved or do I mean savory. Is there a difference?
Ah, but he was a much tastier choice in 2008, then, Mary.
F*** Rudy. He's a bigger attention whore than Newt. Rudy will NEVER seek elected office again... I humbly predict.
I think Giuliani was a community organizer.

>>>To run again with the same résumé as always is the ultimate show of arrogance. Go out and do something, Giuliani, instead of trading on a name that's lost significant value since its high-water mark in 2001. Then come back and use the experience to lead.
Giuliani may be in the running for something else; the post occupied by Harold Stassen, the Republican who ran for President for decades, who became a living joke about the political process. Thirty years from now, he'll still be running on 9/11.
Joe Biden said it all about Rudy when he said (parahrasing a little) "Giuliani's sentences have only t hree things: a noun, a verb, and 9/11." The man, never popular before being dubbed "America's Mayor" otherwise has a platform consisting of intolerance, impatience, intemperance, stubborness, opportunism, and foot-in-mouth syndrome." Enough already.
Richard, if he'd spent his time that well since leaving office, I'd have a totally different take on his prospects.
I guess ALL of America have finally seen what we in New York City knew all along about His Rudeness: That courage alone is not enough when you're ALSO a bullying, intolerant scold who clearly thinks the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to what HE wants.

Giuliani only looked good in contrast to the craven cowardice of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney - those two "tough guys" who, when real toughness was required, hit in their bunkers with their asses in the air....
Anyone, I repeat, anyone who was mayor of NYC on 9/11/01 would have done the same as, or better, than Giuliani. As crass as it is to say, any politician in that position worth his/her salt would have thought, "All eyes are on me right now. This is a golden opportunity.", and would have acted accordingly. There is nothing special about Giuliani.
I am all for the G Man. Who else can do it? Where are the contenders?????
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Rudy's Money speaks volumes!
The ticket with unbelievable appeal is (drum roll): Rudy Giuliani/Harold Stassen 2012!
Richard, if he'd spent his time that well since leaving office, I'd have a totally different take on his prospects. kaplıca otelleri kaplıca otelleri
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