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SEPTEMBER 15, 2010 12:25AM

Thoughts on primary night.

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220px-Carl_Paladino_Headshot_2010.jpgHoly crap. I step away from the Internet for five minutes and suddenly Sarah Palin is president. Cripes! I mean, really, are you guys watching these returns tonight? Tea Party “favorite” (of course, we can’t say candidate because the Tea Party is only a party like the Vietnam Conflict was a war — so yes, it is a party, but no, we can’t call it that) Christine O’Donnell has won the right to challenge whatever poor Democrat is taking up the old Biden banner in Delaware, while the New York Republican Party (when did they get one of those?) now has as its gubernatorial standard-bearer some guy named Carl P. Paladino. I mean, I’ve heard of Rick Lazio, at least. (Which is not to imply that I didn’t enjoy Mr. Paladino’s work as the D.A. on “Law & Order for all those years, because — oh, wait, that was another guy? Someone get back to me on this.)

I suppose the people who are really celebrating tonight are Democrats. Andrew Cuomo masterfully cleared the field earlier this year by, uh, OK, it was bad luck and bad choices that took David Paterson out of the picture (same/same for Eliot Spitzer, I guess), and now he finds his famous name going up against a guy who’s been quietly sending checks to most of Republican New York (seriously, who is this? Is he sending checks to the past? Is Michael Bloomberg circa 1998 making a fortune off of this man?) for years. Paladino, whose signs declare New York “Carl Country,” opposes gay marriage, mosques (and one must assume Islamic Community Centers) near Ground Zero, the assault weapons ban, and labor unions.

Likewise, in Delaware, the Biden Family Franchise (formed in Scranton, PA, if you hadn’t heard) must be raising a tea-flavored toast tonight to whomever it was who decided to put a spunky tea-party candidate up against two-term governor Mike Castle. Get this: 538 gave Castle about a 93% chance of winning in a Castle/Coons race. Coons v. O’Donnell, on the other hand, currently gives the Dem an 83% chance of pulling it off.

But hey, I’m a Democrat, so I know what happens next. What masterful plan does the party have to snatch defeat from the gaping, tea-scented jaws of victory? I assume some form of campaigning that puts Cuomo in a tank, releasing prisoners, shouting “woooooooo!,” being advised by Naomi Wolf on his fashion choices, and possibly marrying a ketchup heiress are in store. Or they could just skip the foreplay and go right to twittering a video of him killing kittens. Either way, if it’s now the Democrats’ race to lose I, for one, am confident they can do it.

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Incredible. What an election year! Well done. So deserving of an EP!
Hey, missed you lately.

Looks like increasingly 'interesting' political times ahead...
Now that's the Saturn I know and love.

And the one who's ALWAYS right.
Two spins will ensue:

1. Republicans turned inside out and too extreme, business as usual.
2. Anti incumbent sentiment, Establishment Reps broomed in the primary and now time to broom Establishment Dems in the general.

Tough to say. Conventional Wisdom and historical trends say 1 is the spin. Current sentiment ain't traditional, it seems, and therefore 2 ought not be completely minimized, lest underestimating the voter dissatisfaction with what is going on down in DC that has congressional approval ratings of 12% to 15%. Pols actually give lawyers a GOOD name these days. Yipes.
Me too. I am sure that is the fervent hope of the GOP regulars now. They should be scared to death but are full of confidence since Democrats historically lose when they are in control of anything. If I were a Republican strategist, I'd stop all campaigning today and let the ill advised and ever stumbling Democrats throw it all away. I mean come on, they held the full majority and couldn't get health care reform through until it went from helping people to a thinly veiled bail out for the health insurance industry. They didn't even need one.
Great post. Congratulations on the EP. R
If the mainstream Republicans allow this election to actually elect those people, they permanently lock themselves out of the heart of their own party. They need to join the Democratic bandwagon.

Then again, if the Democrats do pull it out in the fall, and it's still their game to lose, it makes it more likely that they'll be out of favor in 2012 unless some pretty solid victories roll in.
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Even if these primary victories of conservative candidates are not favored to survive their general elections, they have the salutary effect of ending the political careers of RINOs.

Those victories also send a very strong message that many will vote for potential losers simply to express their horror concerning the direction in which the country is headed under its current leadership. Shades of Nader.

I was amused by your observation about nomenclature. This from the party that can't call a mosque a mosque, a terrorist a terrorist, a radical muslim. . . . .
Dems absolutely could still blow it...
I am so glad I have dual nationality! Methinks it's time to get out of dodge. This country is headed for the trashpile!
I agree with you. There is a long history of parties losing one election and then holding more tightly to the ideals that made them lose in the first place. I think there will clearly be a shift in congress, but as these extremists continue to sublet the party - the more fragmented the party will become. Perhaps they'll eventually be as fragmented as the Democrats.
Not a surprise. The base of the Republican Party has been tired of their leadership for a while now, all talk, no action, about the role of government, and the fiscal situation points that way.
"This from the party that can't call a mosque a mosque, a terrorist a terrorist, a radical muslim. . . . ."

But you sure do know a "f*cked asshole."(Gordon Osmond
SEPTEMBER 14, 2010 11:07 AM) when you see it/them, don't you, gorgon?
Your concerns about the Democrats' tendency to blow their advantages are well founded. The party seems almost catatonic. I'd be surprised if the party retains any advantage to blow after the midterms. cy
Never underestimate the spinelessness of Democratic jellyfish. But the Ds appear to have woken up and smelled the coffee, what with crunch time coming. I still stand by my prediction of 20 D seats lost in the House due to the midterm effect. And I predict the punditocracy will bloviate in November about the "surprise victory" of the Democratic Party due to the "energized leadership" of the President.

Of course, most of this will not be true, but the real credit must be given to the GOPsters who put the aluminum foil hats on their heads to receive the messages from the CIA in their teeth.
What may happen here is not some sort of Tea Party landslide. Perhaps it's already happened. The really bad outcome is that the fringe of anti-immigrant, pro-nationalistic, Obama-hating groups stitched together under the Tea Party banner will become the "second term" in the political vocabulary of the right, much like fundamentalist Christianity in the 80's and 90's. They may never rule outright but by becoming the axis on which everyone has to pivot they could claim some large chunk of the social landscape as their own. The damaging thing about the fundies' influence was not their political power to win elections, but the place they came to occupy as America's "conscience" on things like sex, faith, gender roles. These are much more basic than the political back and forth and have allowed the religious right to survive the implosion of Bush. Although there's some crossover, the Tea Party movement is aiming at something even more basic than that: they want to become the final authority on what it means to be American, or maybe even beyond, what it means to be an "authentic" person, down-home, folksy, etc., to determine not just WHO is American but WHAT is American and what is not.
Anyone who has observed even one season of political football in the U.S. of A. knows the Democrats have a real flair for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The thing that is making this season so exciting is that the Republicans seem to have picked up the Democrats play book and are trying to run the plays even more efficiently.
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I already commented on Tom Cordle's What Me Worry blog that after Reagan won, I gave up prognosticating. It looks a little more hopeful now but who can tell. If war hero Kerry can be made to have his Vietnam record scored as a negative against sneaky, lying, draft-dodging Bush then what isn't impossible?
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Christine O'Donnell has answered the age-old question what lies beneath lowest common denominator? But you're right if there's any way for an extremely qualified and well-spoken candidate like Coons to lose to complete imbecile, the Democrats will find it. Let's hope and pray there isn't/
The former governor racked up some big wins for her endorsees—from a long-shot Tea Partier to a former Real World castmate. The outlook for these winners’ general election chances, however, is decidedly mixed.

Sarah Palin had another successful primary night on Tuesday with conservative activist Christine O’Donnell’s stunning victory in Delaware. The surprise win, much like Palin endorsee Joe Miller’s big victory over incumbent Lisa Murkowski in Alaska’s Senate GOP primary last month, has political observers reeling. With 53 percent of the vote, O’Donnell beat Mike Castle, a popular 20-year veteran of the small state’s only House seat and a two-term governor.

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