Scott Christian

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Scott in his former life was a playwright but is now a tender of culture, sports, music, and literature. He spends most of his time attempting not to impose his obsession with baseball, motorcycles, and the music of U2 on the general public. In this regard, he has largely been a failure.

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AUGUST 18, 2009 2:15PM

Military Women and the Future

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“We’re into growing up, women of the future hold the big revelations.”  I was pondering this lyric yesterday by U2’s Bono while reading a piece in the New York Times on women in the military.  Knowing a little background on Bono and his reverence for women in power may help flush out why such a lyric popped into my mind.  Principle Management, the management group behind U2, essentially what is corporate U2, is almost entirely staffed by women.  Although their manager is, and has been since the beginning, Paul McGuinness, a healthy portion of the higher ups are women.  Bono has made his beliefs pretty clear that women need to attain more positions of power throughout the world, and I couldn’t agree more.  What’s going to be interesting in the next couple of decades though is how many women ascend to places of power who have military combat experience.

 

As of April 2009, the number of women on active duty in the military was 205,396.  That means that in ten or twenty years there will be a pool of a couple of hundred thousand women with military experience from which to draw CEO’s, senators, professors, and possibly even a U.S. President.  The question is, how will this change things and will it be for the better?  Certainly women in power is not exactly a new concept, Egyptian queens were ruling as far back as 3000 B.C., and that we just narrowly missed out on a female president with Hilary Clinton shows that it isn’t exactly a foreign idea today.  But none of the current top women in politics, and few in corporate America, have combat experience.  Unquestionably combat experience changes a person, and occupying positions of leadership within the military influences future positions of civilian leadership, but can this have a positive effect for the female leaders of tomorrow?

 

If nothing else, combat experience should have a positive influence on eliciting respect.  The Old Boys Club will have a tough time sloughing off the directives of a woman who qualified for the M240B machine gun at expert level, much like Specialist Jennifer M. Hoeppner in the NYT article.  But of course it’s not just about the ability to wield heavy artillery.  What women in positions of leadership still occasionally struggle against is not the ability to lead but perception.  There is still a generation out there not fully committed to the idea of women being as qualified as men in any and all endeavors.  As much as I disliked Sarah Palin, I was wholly unimpressed by the argument that she couldn’t be an adequate leader because of her responsibilities as a mother.  She wouldn’t be an adequate leader for reasons of competence, in my humble opinion, none of which had to do with gender.  The perception still exists however, whether we want it to or not, of the overwhelming demands of matronly responsibility eclipsing all else.  

 

Ironically, numerous observers have remarked that, if indeed such biological programming exists, a woman’s knack for running a household closely resembles the demands on a CEO of a corporation.  Time management, multi-tasking, influencing reticent investors (kids doing chores), and long term planning, are all aspects of both occupations.  If anything, men should be handing over power to women with eager enthusiasm.  The idea of the emotional woman not being able to manage under stress should have been thrown out the window with corsets.  Believing the genetic disposition for running the household argument would put women at the forefront of leadership ability.  It should come as no surprise then when Sgt. Evette T. Lee-Stewart remarks in the NYT piece, “I’ve relieved males from command.  I’ve never relieved a female commander in two and a half years as a commander.”

 

What military service will do for women in the long run I think is break down that last perception barrier, that last shred of male arrogance that says men are somehow more qualified leaders.  It could also have the added benefit of not only giving us a generation of powerful women, but powerful women with military refined leadership skills, something that the veterans of WWII taught us is a highly prized commodity.  Of course Israel has had mandatory military service for women on the books for many years and that is a country just crawling with powerful women.  President of the Supreme Court Dorit Beinish, Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Tzipi Livni, and Knesset Speaker Dalia Itzik all seem to be holding up alright.  As a male who’s relatively unimpressed the leadership status quo in this country, I look forward to a generation of combat hardened women taking places of power traditionally held by men.  And yes Bono, I agree completely, women of the future will hold the big revelations.  

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Women should command this kind of respect with OR without the need for military service. Your post is excellent on many levels, Scott, but it seems that is links military service/active duty with defining a woman's inherant strength of character, mind and body. Not sure I'm down with that.
Why is it always considered a "step forward" for women when they act more like men? Talk about an arrogant attitude...
If anything, men should be handing over power to women with eager enthusiasm.

Indeed! I'm ready. ;) Nice post, Scott, on a thought-provoking article.
Two of my uncles, my father in law and my husband all have combat experience. I've asked all of them this question at one point or another and the answer is the same. "If they can hack it out, then sure. But don't join "just prove something", or you'll end up getting you or your fellow soldiers killed"

Speaking just for myself, I think there are better ways a woman can make a difference and still get the respect she deserves. This may sound very "un-feminist" but there is a REASON why women have been "kept out" of combat for the last 5,000 years. It has NOTHING to do with "keeping women down" . . its about the survival instinct . . . a mans first drive when he presented with danger when a woman is with him is to protect her. Do I think women should be kept from millitary service, fuck no. Go for it.
I celebrate that women have that choice.

I have the utmost respect for ALL the people in uniform. But alas I wonder something, If the Draft was ever re-instated, would women be included?
Yes, Israel serves as an example of how women can do service in the military and not only thrive there, but benefit from the experience. As for combat, well... a number of women have been killed in combat in Iraq. Case in point, the daughter of friends of mine. Pardon my compulsion to let people know about Sam... she was an extraordinary person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6W2uWdIBRY

I also have to agree with Just Cathy - the respect should come without women having to do anything special to get it.
Honestly, I think women in combat roles is inevitable and it's necessary. If women want to enjoy equal rights, they need to shoulder equal responsibilities. I'd like to see every 18-25 year old woman have to fill out the same draft care that I did.

In the end, I think women accepting and being placed in combat positions will be an excellent thing for gender equality as a whole. It will be easier for men with that "soldier's" mentality - and I know quite a few - to respect women as equals when they see them risking their lives in the foxholes alongside them.

Rated.
@LadyMiko -
"I have the utmost respect for ALL the people in uniform. But alas I wonder something, If the Draft was ever re-instated, would women be included?"

With respect, if a draft was re-instated at a time where women had the exact same rights as men did in regards to combat duty... why on Earth would we NOT include women in the draft; as they have been doing in Israel (with success!) for many years?

It makes no sense at all to say, yes women are equal and we are going to allow them to fight on the front lines... but we won't require them to sacrifice their lives like we do our young boys. The only reason women aren't required to sign up for the draft NOW is because they CAN'T hold many of those front-line combat positions.
@Umbrellakinesis -
"I also have to agree with Just Cathy - the respect should come without women having to do anything special to get it."

I assume you would say the same thing about men; that respect should come without them having to do anything "special" to get it, correct? What's good for the gander is good for the goose, I hope?

I'm not cut out for front line combat, myself. See, I never joined the armed forces because I knew this. I'm sure plenty of men (and women) feel the same way I do; just as plenty of men (and women) would probably do fine on the front lines.

Honestly, I'd put my wife in the trenches before I'd put me there. She's a much better shot with a S&W M&P 9mm.

The only answer in an "equal" society is to drop the draft for both men and women; or require both males and females to sign that form when they turn 17...
Am I the only one to hope that a spell in the military for women would break down their own psychological barriers to taking charge, delivering orders, becoming inspirational leaders not simply Moms and making life-or-death decisions without a gender bias? Woman is generally presumed to have a 'natural' bias to choosing life at all costs and it's an assumption that much of our society is deeply invested in, e.g. the pro-life lobby, despite evidence to the contrary, e.g. female suicide bombers. I believe women would make excellent military strategists and specialists and front-line troops. I don't worry about male soldiers neglecting their training to save 'the little woman' in uniform beside them. Isn't that what boot camp is for: to supplant all other allegiances with the primary allegiance to one's corps, to one's country? Timely post, rated.
Humans (modern) (Homo sapiens... apparently the wise and knowing man) have been around for about 200,000 years. Women have been treated as the weaker/inferior sex right about that many years. In fact the perception might be permanently imprinted on the neurons in the head.

Generally women take their role of creating, leading, shaping, forming, nurturing the entire human race- very seriously and do a pretty good job of it too. (Look around the world now as opposed to even 2000 years ago).It is astounding that in this past century women actually have wanted to take their own destiny in their hands, to have a say in what happens to the world and moved partially out of the hearth and kitchen to notify all that they are of the same race. Yet today we have to go to battle to prove that we can do the very things required to create and nurture and lead the human race and thus gain the respect from men. Do you really believe that THAT will make men actually undo 200,000 years of brainwashing?

Yet every step is a step forward and that if that is what it takes I guess it shall be done. Rated for interest.
sure will change the face of "domestic disputes" in the years to come.... President Chelsea Clinton signed the Violence Against Civilians Act today despite protests from the NRA... PTSD for everyone!
Thanks for this post. I LOVE Bono, and I'm so glad at least one high profile entertainer treats women with respect.
As far as women in combat, it's happening whether we want it to or not. My question is will this experience open doors that should be open or will these women be treated like the black men who fought bravely in World War II?
Haven't you heard? all soldiers are supposed to get a hero's welcome these days. It has become the noblest of professions, not some nasty duty for conscripted civilians. With military and military related expenses taking 54% of the federal budget almost every citizen benefits directly or indirectly. And remember what Mao Tze-Tung said: "political power comes from the barrel of a gun"
In order for women (and men) to have combat experience, that means there must be a war going on - do you envision a future of continuous warfare? If the future is all about war then we should also train our children for combat as early as possible. On the other hand, I would prefer to see our culture of warfare (both military and corporate) transformed and reoriented along the lines of PARECON (Participatory Economics: http://www.zmag.org/znet/places/Parecon). A future of continuous warfare is too hellish for me although that may very well be the reality. Accepting a lower level of respect is painful to the psyche but the damage done to the psyche through warfare is much greater, even though people will respect you for it.
Right on craiggrong. It isn't complicated. Soldiers are acclimated to violence and then trained to kill and follow orders. High ranking soldiers are trained to give orders. Civilians die along with soldiers in the wars.
Incandscent: Oh I agree, if women want equal rights, then they need to bear equal responsibilty. I'm just curious as to how many women would protest, if they were drafted?
As a matter of fact, far MORE civilians die than soldiers in modern warfare. The numbers are staggering.
@LadyMiko -

I don't know. I personally know a lot of women that want to have their cake and eat it, too - i.e., ability to take front line combat roles like any man without having to sign up for the draft.

Then again, I also know many women who think like you and my wife do. I can't personally say what most women would do. Only the ones I know personally. ;)
Oh, Scott...you have said a mouthful. As a female veteran myself...AND a U2 fanatic...I salute you sir...this actually gave me chills!
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