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AUGUST 18, 2009 10:28AM

Time to retire the term “blogger”?

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Has the word “blogger” become meaningless?

Consider this item (from Mediabistro’s Fishbowl LA):

We asked [Jay] Rosen what he thought of the term “blogger” and how there is not a word to distinguish a journalist who blogs and a numbnut who blogs.

“Blogger will become such a broad term it will lose all meaning,” he told FBLA.

Rosen later elaborated on Twitter:

We don’t say “Emailer James Fallows,” even though he uses email. Eventually, it will be the same with the term “blogger.”

Let’s unpack this.

“Blogger” confuses us today because we’ve conflated two different meanings of “blogging.” There is the formal definition: personal website, reverse chronological order, lots of links. Then there is what I would call the ideological definition: a bundle of associations many observers made with blogs in their formative years, having to do with DIY authenticity, amateur self-expression, defiant “disintermediation” (cutting out the media middleman), and so on.

Today professional journalism has embraced the blog form, since it is a versatile and effective Web-native format for posting news. But once you have dozens of bloggers at the New York Times, or entire media companies built around blogs, the ideological trappings of blogging are only going to cause confusion.

Still — wary as I am of taking issue with Rosen, whose prescience is formidable — I don’t think we will see the term “blogger” fade away any time soon. There’s a difference between a term that’s so broad it’s lost all meaning and a term that has a couple of useful meanings that may conflict with each other.

After all, we still use the word “journalist,” even though it has cracked in two (”journalist” as professional label vs. “journalist” as descriptor of an activity). This is where human language (what programmers call “natural language”) differs from computer languages: our usage of individual words changes as it records our experience with their evolving meanings.

In other words, the multiple meanings of the word “blogger” may bedevil us, but they also tell a story.

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What then shall we be called?
Blogging seems to be the mechanical term of writing via your computer and posting. When I say "I blog", the question always follows, "what exactly is it?"" how do you do it". But, that is what I do. I am not a writer, journalist or pundit. I am a voice that found a medium and asserted myself, now find a one word descriptor for that. Or find another time when it was so easy or so possible.
I don't think we can go back to web logger, if it ever was a term used though the etymology is there. I can't really come up with a portmanteau that works as well or rolls off the tongue. I agree that things may evolve for the term used, but blog, blogging and blogger work fine and any nuance that alters the common understanding can be garnered from the context. Maybe we'll use a neologism like "neuralist" to describe how our thoughts are sent to the ether at some point down the road.
Most blogger are amateur amanuensis.They use this platform for entertainment not serious about life or motive.99.99 P.C. blogger are idle ladies they have big problem hot to kill the time. Blog is very best paste time for them. wow, nice, very good, how wonderful are their feedback. Anyone can be bore with their comments.Blog is very good for idle men and women.
My guess is we will start to hear something like "professional blogger" to distinguish quality blogging from the numbnuts. Only whatever term arises will be shorter and snappier... maybe "problogger"?? (I call dibs on coining that term in case it takes off!)

Of course, such distinctions will be in the eye of the reader...and the bloggers. Am I a problogger because I blog here at OS and get acknowledged in ways that prove I'm not crazy, even though I don't get paid ? Or are only paid writers/journalists (such as at the NYT etc) probloggers? What about famous people who blog for free but have high credibility? These are the questions that will get chewed over endlessly.
You can dress your pig up in a ball gown, but in the end, it is merely your pig. Interesting topic. Of course since I know absolutely nothing about it, please feel free to disregard the comment.
Whew. When I read the byline I thought the writer was advocating for the demise of Google's Blogger format. I would hate to see my blog flushed into the ether. I may be the only person who feels that way, but...
I prefer the word "Writer" myself.
Ramesh, I am always impressed by the caliber of your "not idle woman " commentary and blogging.

Glad to have the professional among us idle amanuensiacs. I do use a keyboard and I do not write long hand, does that matter?
Am with Nick. "writer" has worked for awhile now.
I am a blogger. Until the corporate powers of the world decide that everyone should pay to blog. Then I'm just a jerk with a story to tell and a million things to expound upon.

So when they take away that freedom to be broke and blogging away I'll be just another voice without a platform.

"I would call the ideological definition: a bundle of associations many observers made with blogs in their formative years, having to do with DIY authenticity, amateur self-expression, defiant “disintermediation” (cutting out the media middleman), and so on."

That pretty much describes my blogs, in a nutshell. You can bet that I don't have a proof-reading staff and that I don't have fancy software making your butt warm while you browse ... but I got the raw deal on name-your-topic.
Stella - "I am not a writer, journalist or pundit."

Your a writer and a pundit. Like it or not that's the label you got stuck with when you stepped up the plate.

However, journalists are not we. Nor is Bill O'Reilly for that matter...
An amateur writer/blogger could become a wrogger. Arguments about its appropriateness, importance and etymology would soon ensue. A professional journalist/blogger could become a jourggler.
Anyone using either of those terms could be determined to be neither. The possibilities are endless.
This needed to be said. Thanks for being there.
A "jourggler"! I like it!

This particular conversation has been happening since the dawn of blogging. I once thought it would vanish as blogging matured. Now I think it is an inevitable accompaniment to the form, which has an element of introspection as part of its DNA.
I favor the term "free journalist," as opposed to freelance journalist (who sells his items to editors) and just plain blogger, which I feel has a sort of outmoded pioneer ring to it. And by the way, freedom really IS free, in every sense of the word.
A blogger is anyone who writes a web log. Period. A professional blogger is someone who gets paid for it. I doubt even @jayrosen_nyu would argue to retire qualifying language.
Yeah, I'm still crazy about "writer."
Well, I'm not a journalist and have never claimed to be, but I hope that doesn't mean I'm a "numbnut." How about this? I'm an unpaid columnist, who uses a the 'net as a way to reach my (small but enthusiastic) audience of readers.
Scott, your two definitions seem to exclude writers on OS. The reverse chronological thing is there, but the "many links" may or may not be. So, do you consider OSers to be bloggers?
Maybe we could figure out a way so that every screen will read every professional writer/blogger's print as black or grey blue, and every amateur's self-expression as crayola pink or orange. A proper "home" must be prepared for adult, formed writers thinking more-and-more of making the 'net their place of business; the kids can find some place to play outside, or in the pen, where they won't bother anyone.
Lainey, in my view OSers are bloggers, sure. (Unless a particular one feels he/she dislikes the label!) I normally qualify that "lots of links" with a "usually" -- not sure why I didn't here! There are bloggers who don't link a lot. The definition is a cluster of traits, not an all-or-nothing checklist.
I'm a recent blogger and a journalist *and* a writer, and it seems to me that using all these terms is plenty descriptive. Blogging is the medium, and what's exciting about it is the openness, the ability to publish yourself, the freedom from mainstream media. In a recent bio note for a print article, I said that I was a freelance writer "who blogs about adoption at marthanicholsonline.blogspot.com."

I love the fact that journalists are blogging. I love the fact that folks who say they aren't journalists (and what *is* a journalist, anyway, in this context?) are telling such great stories and inspiring such discussion. The civic discourse piece is one part of doing journalism.

One quibble: I think of professional bloggers as those who have their own blog and are making scads of money off it via advertising and merch sales. (Dooce.com comes to mind.) I don't think journalist bloggers--even if they're paid as journalists--are the same thing, because the nature of their commentary is different. They're not telling their life stories in print. Still, it's a form in motion. I'm very interested in the nexus of all these things, and how first-person journalism has evolved.