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NOVEMBER 17, 2010 2:10PM

“Your map’s wrong”: Zuckerberg lights out for the territories

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It’s hard to think of a more meaningful recent exchange in the tech-industry world than the moment onstage at Web 2.0 last night when Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg turned to conference organizers John Battelle and Tim O’Reilly and told them, “Your map’s wrong.” (I was sorry not to be there in person! I went to the first several Web 2.0 conferences but have recently tried to reduce conference attendance in an effort to Get Things Done instead.)

Zuckerberg was referring to a big map on the wall behind him that charted the conference’s theme of “points of control.” Battelle and O’Reilly had aimed to provide a graphic display of all the different entities that shape and limit our experience online today. It’s a useful exercise in many ways. But Zuckerberg argued that it was wrong-headed in describing an essentially closed system.

Here’s the full exchange, which you can watch below:

ZUCKERBERG: “I like this map that you have up here, but my first instinct was, your map’s wrong.”

BATTELLE: “Of course it’s wrong, it’s version one.”

ZUCKERBERG: “I think that the biggest part of the map has got to be the uncharted territory. Right? One of the best things about the technology industry is that it’s not zero sum. This thing makes it seem like it’s zero sum. Right? In order to take territory you have to be taking territory from someone else. But I think one of the best things is, we’re building real value in the world, not just taking value from other companies.”

Now, of course it’s in Zuckerberg’s interest to make this argument. And it would be disingenuous to maintain that Facebook isn’t engaged in some real direct competition with the other big Net-industry players today. As Tim Wu’s new book reminds us, the cycle of communications-technology innovation runs in a regular pattern in which innovators become monopolists and monopolists exact their tolls. Facebook, like its predecessors, is likely to proceed accordingly.

Nonetheless, I think Zuckerberg’s larger point is profoundly right. He found a way to remind us of something that was true when I started creating websites 15 years ago and that’s still true today: It’s still early in this game, and the game itself continues to grow. The portion of the online realm that we’ve already invented is still a mere fraction of the total job of creation that we’ll collectively perform. There is more world to come than world already made.

I find that I regularly need to remind myself of this every time I’m thinking of starting something new. When I started the Salon Blogs program in 2002 I worried that we were late arrivals to that game. Blogs had been around forever — I’d been reading them for five years! We shouldn’t forget that at the time of Google’s founding in 1998, search was considered old hat, a “solved problem.” Similarly, Facebook itself could have seemed a johnny-come-lately five years ago, coming as it did on the heels of Friendster, Orkut and MySpace.

The Net is still young and what we do with it and on it remains an early work in progress. The “uncharted territory” still beckons those who enjoy exploring. And it may be that one secret of Zuckerberg’s and Facebook’s success is that they aren’t losing sight of this truth as they plunge into the technology industry’s crazy scrum.

Here’s TechCrunch on Zuckerberg’s interview. And here’s the full video, linked to start at the 52:30 mark where the map discussion occurred:

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He looks like Doogie Howser, only fatter.
He sure does look like he's gettin' chunky alright.
Rated!
He was cuter when he was poorer.
Sorry the comments so far seem
To be a waste of comment space. I thought your article touches on something interesting. I remember a version of the Internet in college com lab in 70s and remember first time on line sometime in 90s. But more importantly this gives an interesting snap shot of how Zukerberg and other IT people think. It does not have to be zero sum and this is just the beginning. What is scary is how much influence this is having on us without a full understanding. Does the Internet make us closer or more isolated? More information but less knowledge? Sense of private and public self? One thing for sure it's not just technology and business but imagination and creativity.
Really well said--by you, and him, Scott.

The web is young, and that usually is forgotten.

And thanks for starting the Salon blogs in 2002. That's how I got my blogging start. I had a website before that, but it was rudimentary. That really got me launched.
Extremely interesting post. The first few comments were disappointing, but I agree that the Internet is new. Not all possible ideas have been conceived and implemented. I do wonder, if humanity becomes essentially dependent on the Internet, will that not make us even more vulnerable? Will we cease to function if satellites do the same? R
yeah, good point. thx for pointing this out/highlighting it. like the youthful idealism.... its tough in such a crushing recession to be optimistic or see something positive in the future. I guess it helps if you're a billionaire :p
Here's an unsolved problem that I hope some young internet innovator is working on -- how to make discussion on the internet more meaningful and more like the real give and take of conversation. No one thinks these comment boxes really do the trick, right?
Zuckerberg is someone I never want to meet and I dread his luck at cracking the web. It will all end up in the wrong hands and for the wrong purpose. Let this winner loose as far as I am concerned.
So....just how many advertising dollars *are* actually out there to be scooped up by the internet? Doesn't the whole thing operate on the assumption that all of Sillycon Valley works on creating "the next big thing?" (read: something which can be sold to advertisers) To that extent, it IS a zero sum game.
This piece really needs to be read more. I just twittered it. I'd love to hear more discussion.

(Very odd digs at Mark's body fat, BTW. From that pic, it looks lower than 90-plus % of Americans. I actually think he's looking hot. Any opportunity to take a swipe?)