Sean Fenley
- Birthday
- May 04
- Bio
- Sean Fenley is an independent progressive, who would like to see some sanity brought to the creation and implementation of current and future, US military, economic, foreign and domestic policies. He has been published by a number of websites, and publications throughout the alternative media.
MY RECENT POSTS
- Notes on the Middle East
May 17, 2013 05:15PM - Niall Ferguson’s Bizarre
Homophobic Attack on Prof.
Keynes
May 11, 2013 04:29PM - George Galloway Kickin’ Ass
in Parliament
May 11, 2013 01:11AM - Notes on Atheistic Materialism
and Agnosticism
April 29, 2013 01:12AM - Pro-Palestinian Movement
Should be Wary of Rank
Anti-Semites
April 22, 2013 07:08AM
MY RECENT COMMENTS
- “I'll use another
literary analogy for you. Many
of these
things that you are
spea…”
May 21, 2013 03:13PM - “Thank you for that
history Dr., I'm getting
schooled today,
haha.”
May 17, 2013 09:31PM - “Thank you O/E... I will
check that out. You say that
the
Alevis are more
Turkish…”
May 17, 2013 06:25PM - “Awlaki's crime was his
radical preaching too, I
think. All he
did was preach,
he…”
May 17, 2013 05:41PM - “When the US classified
the Al-Nusra brigade as
Al-Qaeda, I
think about 35-40%
of…”
May 17, 2013 05:33PM
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Updates
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Worst Since Watergate? Please
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A Morning at Fred Howard Park
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It's Here! My First Adult Novel: Spunk, a Fable
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She's 14 And Bored
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My Deeply 'Homo- Sapiental' Attraction to a Dude Dogwalker
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Why Federal Reserve Should Buy Gold,But Not Standard,as QET
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What If Obama Were Small-Minded As Oklahoma's Senators?
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Writers, Performers, Academics Call for End To Guantanamo

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Comments
For the left to put pressure on Obama, they need to show up at the polls, which they failed to do in 2010. They sure showed Obama didn't they? Punishing him with the Tea Party Congress. Thanks a lot flaky left.
Obama apologists stuck in "bargaining" phase of 5 stages of grief. Watching Obama play Lucy and the football to Charlie Brown faux-progressives one more time as the USWarMachine destroys people and countries makes me want to puke. I think of the "Good Germans" letting genocide happen. Maybe the Repubs are reminiscent of full-out Nazis, but the Dems are the Good Germans looking the other way, though let's face it, Obama brought his sled from day one to the slippery slope of fascism. Pointing at the Republicans as the bad guys when the DEM awesome PASSIVITY and EMBRACING of the so-called lesser of two evils instead of demanding bottom line decency (the bar is not only not high, it is buried in the ground on the part of both legacy parties!) is dooming us all, a great legacy to pass on to future generations, if there manages to be future generations. "Whatever" obamabots! "Don't really commit. Be seduced by MSNBC gamesmanship talk and go Team Dem go." Bleccccchhhh. libby
FLAKEY LEFT? Jeff J. you are so part of the deadweight of the problem in America!!! libby
However, what I would like to know is why everyone expects Obama to perform miracles? How can he clean up a mess so great left by Bush (an idiot if there ever was one) in four years? It took Bush eight years to make this country go bust. On this note, I would like to know why Bush is NOT in jail? How is it possible he is enjoying life when he was the one sending troups to a country for no reason? For a lie, as a matter of fact? Someone explain this to me for I fail to connect the dots.
Also, how can Obama ever do something when congress acts like they are all in Kindergarden. When the reps say no, the dems say yes and vice versa. Hello politicians, are you five? Have you grown up? Do you even care about anything else but yourself? Do you even care that this country is going down the drain while you are living the high life? I think not.
Calling Obama a fascist is soooo immature. What on earth are you people afraid of? Healthcare for all? It works in Western Europe and none of these countries are reigned by fascists.
Furthermore, Obama has been critizised from day one and I suspect it wasn't because he has charisma. Where was that criticism when Bush junior was in office? How come that dummy got away with everything?
It's a joke to believe that anyone other then Obama should be elected in November. Come on, do you really think that the current candidates really will keep their promises? Let's get real. As soon as one is in office, the promises will be forgotten like they usually do. Sure, now they promise you to make everything better but it won't get better.
On a last note, how could anybody vote for Gingrich? Whoever did or considers to, may I just ask: Are you insane?
Obama should be impeached for ignoring the Constitution when we (and NATO) intervened in Libya. The power to declare war clearly lies with the Congress -- and not the president -- in the United States Constitution. Obama did not even consult with the Congress in that instance...
I heard an interview with Legal Professor Francis Boyle on Cindy Sheehan's radio show recently, where he said that he was thrown off of the United for Peace and Justice email list over precisely this issue. UFPJ is not an anti-war group, but a front group for Obama/the Democratic Party.
I decided to stop voting Maria. I voted for Nader in '96, '00, and '04, and McKinney in '08. Third parties candidates (for the most part) present the only choices in our "democracy", and they are not covered by the media, and they are not allowed to debate -- thus the duopoly continually reigns supreme.
Link to interview with Prof. Francis Boyle:
http://cindysheehanssoapbox.blogspot.com/2011/04/hard-boyled-truth-prof-francis-boyle-on.html
FLAKEY LEFT? Jeff J. you are so part of the deadweight of the problem in America!!! libby
My point is not that the goals and demands of the left are flaky. I agree with most of the criticism of Obama from the left (and none of it from the right).
But how do you influence politicians in political reality? By being an organized voting bloc that turns out at the polls reliably. Then you make demands that are publicly well articulated. They will be afraid that you won't show up if they don't follow you.
But the number of people who supported Obama in 2008 who simply didn't bother to vote in 2010 simply lacked political discipline. They were impatient that not everything was perfect, and that some things were terrible. They could not see how much improvement there was since Bush. And the result was to hand the Congress to the Tea Party/Republicans.
The effective thing to do would have been to not whine because the President is not a miracle worker, and to recognize the limitations because of the filibuster abuse by the party of NO. The effective thing to do would have been to redouble the efforts of the 2008 election and hold the House and increase the Senate majority to 65. To gain political leverage you need to get excited and out in record numbers election after election, and not just quit after two years. That would earn political capital for the left.
But what did they do? Cry about the public option. Whine about Guantanamo. Bitch about immigration and the environment. Moan about civil liberties.
The result? Tea Party Congress. So while I agree with the goals and concerns of the left, I still say "Grow up flaky left!".
A lot of good was done in the first two years, and if you don't believe me, check out this website and notice that the glass is at least half full:
http://obamaachievements.org/
We saw Obama try to make a "grand bargain" with the Rethugs -- trading away SS and Medicare. Truly despicable behavior! And not to mention the unconstitutional war with Libya, bombing of innocent civilians/aka "collateral damage" with drones, and murdering American citizens with drones. A former constitutional scholar, rofl!
I happened to just listen to an interview with Cynthia actually, b/c I listen to a lot of past shows of the Progressive Radio News Hour w/ Stephen Lendman. Such an inspirational, strong person, she had to be run out of congress for her opposition to the Israeli lobby!
http://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/the-progressive-news-hour/2011/12/2/the-progressive-radio-news-hour-120411.html
Obama fully and wholeheartedly supports the Israeli lobby and the Likudniks btw. This stuff from the Israeli right about Obama being "anti-Israel" is a bunch of horserubbish!
They will "teach Barack Obama a lesson." He will not serve a second term.
They, and many generations of Americans to come, will regret that lesson, but there is absolutely no reasoning with these good people.
I am sure they mean well. I meant well when I abandoned Jimmy Carter in favor of Ronald Reagan, a man I knew to be a lightweight and a potential danger to our country and the world...
...and I came to regret that well-intentioned mistake more than I have regretted any others I can bring to mind.
They will regret their short-sightedness...of this I am certain.
I will not even get into the fantasy of a third party alternative here, because that is too weird for serious consideration.
I thought the American people had wised up after George W. Bush. He took the country to depths unimaginable... I recommended voting for Nader/McKinney that Obama was a trojan horse during Obamamania. He was being advised by people like Zbig, William Daley, and Jason Furman at the time. I don't know what it will take for progressive change to actually occur, it won't come from a Rethug or a Democrat, though, unless pushed very strongly, by a well organized, vigorous and robust movement from the people/below.
Hopefully we've only seen the beginning of OWS. And it really won't matter which of the oligarchy's candidates is in power, b/c of the groundswell from the vast majority of the people will be so overwhelming to the powers that -- on both sides of the aisle -- currently rule the country...
We are currently being running by arrogant megalomaniacs, who are infatuated, by their own visages in the mirror (and power). It's truly a sorry lot -- once again on both sides of the aisle -- that we see return to power again and again. The only option is to get rid of the rotten Republicrat/Democans system, that is despoiling the country (and in many ways the planet too with all of their senseless wars).
Sean…I don’t especially think of you as the “extreme left.” You see to me like a fairly moderate leftist voice in the cacophony of left wing voices here in OS.
But I do want to comment on the rest of that thought up above.
YES…DEFINITELY Jesus, the Buddha, MLK, Jr. were for peace, and racial and economic justice.
I am for all those things…and more. I am for most progressive initiatives.
But I disagree on how to achieve them.
I do not think they will come magically…and I most assuredly do not think they will come any time soon as the result of a third party uprising. We also disagree completely on the effectiveness of the Occupy movement, which I see more as a negative for progressive initiatives, mostly because the pettiness of the movement is doing more to foment anger among the right and moderates….and damn near nothing to energize the left.
In any case, it appears we both want our country to be a fairer, more reasonable country…albeit we disagree to a polar degree on what best will lead in that direction.
Defeating Obama…letting the Republicans gain political advantage because of the shortsightedness of “wanting to teach him a lesson”…is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen the left do. The left will regret what happens when the crop of what they have been sowing is reaped.
Thanks for giving me a chance to express my views in your blog.
Continuing to support Obama just because you're afraid of the right wing is not a good reason to support any candidate nor will the democrats ever live up to their supposed values and principles if we continue to vote for them. Why have they become so similar to the right? Because we've allowed them to do so.
On the other hand, we can't ignore the fact that our elections are a sham. It's all about the money. Few candidates can raise enough funds to make themselves heard. Most are uninformed about true progressive candidates because they are shut out by the mainstream media and aren't allowed to participate in the televised debates.
You both seem to think supporting Obama (or either of the two major parties) is “the wrong thing to do.” But there is an election coming up.
What do you suggest is “the right thing to do?”
In other words, what do you suggest will lead to the best outcome after the election results are counted?
Those who can rightly find reasons to criticize Obama, but use that as a reason to call him a trojan-horse Republican are simply not realistically looking at how hard the job is, what the limits to his power are, what the political composition of the country as a whole is, how moderate and centrist Obama is compared to the far right reactionary Republicans, and how many really positive good things that have occurred during his Presidency.
Really take a good look at http://obamaachievements.org/ and then compare that with Bush.
The two party system is a struggle for the center because of the mathematics of first-past-the-post voting. This can be reformed. See CGP Grey on youtube on Alternative Vote, Multi-Member Proportional Representation, and Shortest Split-Line Districting. See fairvote.org.
There are two things that can be done. We can engage in the disciplined long term struggle to reform the election process, and we can engage in the long-term tug-o-war to try to shift the political debate gradually and incrementally back leftward. It won't happen easily or overnight, and you can't blame Obama for the kind of stiff resistance he has met every step of the way, and you have to participate. If the country had united behind Obama, as he tried to do, things would be different (but still not perfect).
I'd certainly like to hear from anyone else here on that.
Most people, within the tidy freedom of their own minds, are able to develop some clear and beautiful notions of how the world ought to be. When a President is unable to fulfill these expectations, when the actuality of his words and deeds deviates from this abstract model of liberal perfection, their hearts break, and they give up hope.
We can't overlay our vision of what "ought" to be on what "is" and expect to be connected to reality. Instead we should see 40% or 50% agreement as a wonderful thing. We should small movement in the direction we prefer as progress, even though it does not match up to our ideal.
Apparently people don't remember the pain and misery of Bush, and what it is like to have a President who gets it wrong every step of the way. Remember the incredible stupidity, remember having a leader who is so entirely wrong headed that every moment he is in office is not only an embarrassment for the nation, but a deep and awful shame in the hearts of every decent and compassionate person.
Try to remember what that was like. It's what you will get again if you abandon Obama. Don't give up the game if you fail to achieve perfection in one go. Just keep trying to push in the right direction and be satisfied with slow steady gains.