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MAY 20, 2009 2:28PM

The Problem of "Evil"

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 "...having no remedy for evil but only for the image of it as they conceived it to be."

 

With this sentence Cormac McCarthy (in The Road) summarizes one of the great motivating factors in human history – Evil; it’s been blamed (by some) for causing every war, pestilence, natural disaster, terrorist attack, personal property crime and dirty thought.  The irony is that Evil (that is Evil as opposed to evil), like its counterpart Holiness, doesn’t even exist.   Humans are the only creatures with a conception of Evil.  We’re the only species that believes forces with intent, invisible and manifested alike, prowl the world.  Such ego to believe such nonsense.

News flash: there are no Satanic intentions, no demonic machinations.  

Religion has survived the scientific revolution (so far) but will continue to exist for a number of reasons, not the least of which are shit happens, and people die. Individually, these calamites can be overcome; we can deal with car accidents or grandma buying the farm.  What we (humans, that is) have a harder time is that sometimes shit happens and people die (SH-PD) as a result.  It’s sad enough when a child dies, or a drunk driver kills someone, but when SH and PD as a direct result (i.e. a drunk driver kills a child), then everyone breaks out with the huge, unanswerable, why?

Religion is a sort of OCD, but instead of the merely physical, or the more complex psychological, religion infects one’s entire sense of being – the “spiritual.’  A religious person can be so compulsive and have such strong belief in that compulsion that they not only, for example, wash their hands, they’re going to wash your hands…at the same time, in the same way, using the same soap, and the same water temperature in the same (or similar) building, while uttering the same magic words, so they can justify that their way is the only way to cleanliness.  (But don’t you dare recognize that your lack of piety is merely germs, because that would be the real world (aka science), and we can’t allow them or their agenda of information.  You have to recognize that illness is caused by Evil spirits crawling over you vile flesh…especially the  you-know-where-parts….dirty, dirty, body parts!)

If they can cure the Evils of the world they will thus cure the world of Evil, then all will be well.  Everything, if you look deep enough, is caused by Evil: 9/11KatrinaObamaswine flu In the past (and for some people today) Evil was (and still is) responsible for bad weather, earthquakes, eclipses, failed crops, and every manner of deformity, mental illness, bad habit, nervous tic and even gender itself.  Women, after all, are the worst Evil of all.

Like the Christian who sees Jesus’ face in a sidewalk puddle or on his toast, evil-seekers see the demise of civilization, hell, the end of the world itself, in every song lyric, short skirt and normal bodily function.

I’d pity them if they weren’t so fucking dangerous.

 

 

 

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Shadow...question:

You wrote: "News flash: there are no Satanic intentions, no demonic machinations."

Is this something you know...or is this just another blind guess about what is and what is not in Reality????
I think "The problem of Evil" is one of my favorite subjects in the world. And like you, I don't believe that good and evil actually exist, but rather are just judgements made by us humans.

Unlike you, however, I'm "religious" - at least in the sense that I believe - based on faith - that our universe was created by an intelligent consciousness. I also believe there is a plan for creation that we humans aren't capable of fathoming in our current state, and I also believe that most human endeavor has a purpose related to that plan.

And for the record, I'm not convinced that we actually exist either. I'm pretty sure we don't (although it really doesn't matter because as long as we believe we do - even a little, we have no choice but to ride it out) and that the misguided notion of our own existence is wound up very tightly with the problem of Evil.
The week I joined OS had an 'evil theme' many good reads but I was new and can't remember all the authors. Here's one from Monte Canfield, the bad-ass reverend, if you're looking for some more perspective.

http://open.salon.com/blog/monte_canfield/2009/01/24/theological_reflection_theodicy_why_is_there_evil
http://open.salon.com/blog/monte_canfield/2009/01/24/ theological_reflection_theodicy_why_is_there_evil

stupid mo-fo-ing link eater... if only I had the skills...
But suffering doesn't necessarily imply the existence of evil. If someone falls off a cliff while jogging and breaks their leg, they suffer. But where's the evil in that?

Evil implies mal-intent on someone's part, but it also connotes actions that go against some universal "right" or the will of a god. It seems to me that in the absence of a god with a clearly defined will, or some obvious universal "right way" of doing things, then there can be no evil - only different peoples' opinions of right and wrong.

So, if a Tiger begins to eat someone while they are still alive, thus causing great suffering to that person - or wildebeest - is evil involved? I say not. As much as the person or wildebeest might think so, the Tiger is just doing what Tiger's do.

And in the case of an so-called intelligent species like humans torturing each other, is that evil? Well, clearly there is intent to do something bad to another person. But does it go against some universal "right" or again the will of God? Personally I don't think so - I think it's all part of some plan and as much as I personally, hate such actions - and suffer as a result of them - I am not God and so my opinions or anyone elses don't constitute a universal directive on what is "evil".