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MAY 26, 2009 4:36PM

Marriage isn't a process of prolonging the life of love...

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...but of mummifying the corpse.

So says Mr. P. G. Wodehouse, at any rate.

I imagine proposing has to be pretty tough.  First off, there's a fair bit of nervousness that I'm sure accompanies the act, but that's fairly obvious and I won't even bother talking about that.  If you've gotten to know the girl in question well enough to suggest she change her last name, then I'm sure the fear of rejection won't be majorly crippling.  It's probably more akin to that public speaking assignment in seventh grade English: sure, we were all gawky and awkward and self conscious, but you get up and mumble your bit and sit down and get a B+.  Cake.

No, I think there are far more sinister forces working against the male of the species when approaching the fairer sex to nominate himself eternal bedfellow.  When I was in elementary school I remember some of my "friends" who were girls describe their ideal husband, wedding, and honeymoon in extravagant detail.  (Although I sincerely doubt I had any actual friends who were girls when I was in elementary school, since it's a known fact of science that girls of that age are gross, useless, and at best only mildly fascinating in a "pull their hair" sort of way)  In our glorious post-modern day and age, where a woman is (rightly) considered a bit old fashioned and out of date when she longs for her white knight to save her from her gilded tower, the modern woman has climbed down from the tower and slain that damn dragon herself so she can get back to living a meaningful and fulfilling existence that is dictated by her own wants and desires, not the whims and fancies of the man of the house.  Donna Reed has left the building.

Yet the self-actualized female surely wants some romance in her life.  After all, she may be out of her tower but she still grew up on Barbie dolls and Pretty Pretty Princess games and all the other pink plastic crap advertising executives deem appropriate for little girls.  She had her little diary with a lock and key where she wrote about the boy she had a crush on and how they would one day fall madly in love with each other.  And from my previously mentioned personal experience, little girls seem to know what they want.  They envision moonlight, string quartets, champagne, glistening white smiles with rows of perfect teeth, and after being brought to the point of near-swoon, the white knight who produces the ring.  After that comes the wedding and the honeymoon and the three kids (two girls, one boy) and the dog named Buster.  So perhaps the toughest mountain the potential bridegroom-to-be has to crest when preparing his proposal is to make sure it lives up to this high romantic ideal his potential bride-to-be has fantasized about ever since she was a little girl at slumber parties.  This is the real challenge.

So the other day I witnessed a marriage proposal.  What follows is the play-by-play.

I went to my local locally-owned coffeeshop with my laptop to sip coffee and check email and do a little work.  I'm sitting at a table by myself, and next to me is a pretty large group of perhaps a dozen people.  If they're not college students, they're at least right out of college.  I'm not really paying attention to them, but they're sort of giving off the vibe of a bible study group going out for a night on the town.  You know the vibe I'm talking about.

At any rate, these good wholesome American kids are taking off jackets and getting settled and they're being a bit too noisy for my quiet tastes.  I'm contemplating moving over a couple of tables, but then I hear one of the guys say, "Hey, does anyone want to see a magic trick?"

"I do," I think to myself.  "I want to see a magic trick."

I'm pretending to look at my screen, but really I'm watching this guy do his magic trick.

"Abraca-One," he says.  His hand is reaching into the inside pocket of his jacket.  Some of his friends start laughing a bit.

"This guy doesn't know any magic," I think.  "This looks like it's going to be a lame trick."  I keep watching anyways.  You never know.

"Abraca-Two," says the potential groom-to-be.  He pulls out a ring case.

"Uh oh," I think. "Uh oh.."

"Abraca-Three, Will you marry me?"  He drops to one knee and presents the ring to a girl across the circle from him.

Screw the laptop. I 'm not even pretending to look at it.  I am full on staring at this girl.  I think I was probably biting my nails, too, because there's evidence to that effect on my left hand.  "Why isn't this girl saying anything?" I wonder.  I'm holding my breath, and still this girl is just looking around at all of her friends, her mouth hanging agape.  "Oh, please, just say yes!" I think. "Oh please, just say no!"  I squirm a little at the thought.  I just want her to say something.  She's in shock, is all.  This was not the magic trick she expected her boyfriend to do.  After about a day and a half, she finally finds her voice and squeaks out a tiny little happy "yes," and there is a collective release of breath from everyone and we all start clapping.  They kiss and do the whole calling the parents thing and she asks all her friends if they knew this was going to happen and some of them say yes and then he tells the story of how he called her father right before to get his permission and there's a general giddiness in the air.   If anyone else in that group was planning anything big that night, they were upstaged by the engagement.  I guess they'll have to come out of the closet some other time.

At some point during that day and a half when she had us on the edge of our seats with our hearts pounding like a Neil Peart drum solo, she must have thought to herself, "This Is It. This is the marriage proposal I've been dreaming about since I was a little girl.  My white knight is on his knees on the dirty floor of this coffeeshop, pretending to do a magic trick."  I'm not judging, not by any means, I was quite moved by the whole thing, but this place never struck me as the ideal place to pop the question.  But it was quite a trick.  He made a bachelor disappear.

Congratulations, kids.  Make it work.

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Look, I'm as romantic as the next guy, but I have to say, people proposing in public always skeeves me out. People having sex in public, well...that's another story.
"If anyone else in that group was planning anything big that night, they were upstaged by the engagement. I guess they'll have to come out of the closet some other time."
Hahaha
Enjoyable piece. My romantic son-in-law proposed to my daughter at the same inn where his dad had proposed to his mom.
Wonder where the wedding will be?
You have eloquently described why public proposals of marriage are lame to the extreme.
Wow. cute scene. Hope it works but ... idk the whole thing is intimidating for girls too... imagine if she did say no - then what? Never hear the end of it? whoa. Maybe we should rewrite things so that girls must propose... no no no... take that back......... eek.
Cat- They seemed a bit too young to me, but c'est la vie. They seemed a bit too bright-eyed and rosy-cheeked to even think about sucking, at least for the first couple of years. Wink wink.

ShelHorse- I know, right? That's the post I was hoping I'd get to write.

aphra- thanks, I'll check ya out.

Moses- thanks! "So, Joe, what did you get us all together for, anyway?"

RedSox G'ma- My folks got married on my grandparents' wedding anniversary. I dig sentimental stuff like that.

Maria- There's an excellent Internet Cafe right up the block.
Dorinda- No doubt. Actually--and I feel bad saying this, because it really was kinda touching in person--but I think it was the kid who was lame. Abraca-One? Really? That's the best you can come up with? You're just asking for trouble with that one.

Mesmersi- I think the real problem lies with proposing in front of a dozen or so of your friends. Seriously, kids, get a room.
see, and I only got an off-hand, "so do you want to get married?" in the front seat of our minivan.

:P

But 15 years together and going strong strong strong just makes it a funny story now!
Shit.

I realized after posting this that my timing totally sucks. I probably shouldn't be writing about wide-eyed heterosexuals proposing marriage on the same day the California Supreme Court upholds Prop 8. I'm sorry if this salts any wounds. My thoughts are with those of you on the ground fighting for equal rights.
It has to be nerve wracking to be the one who pops the question. But, still, I believe simple is best.... public is bad! Great post!
Great story! well written. I loved your thoughts during the whole thing.
To borrow further from PG Wodehouse, it sounds as though while the girl was not actually disgruntled with her b/f's approach, she wasn't entirely gruntled either ...
beautifully done. ultimately depressing. Why? Nothing to do with the writing, though.

rated
great post shaggy, enjoyed your writing -- I really did!

Here's my take: with the kind of pressure that poor girl was under ... i wonder if she could've said no even if you'd wanted to. you know how long a NP drum solo can be, brilliant and entertaining as it is.... maybe she was creating dramatic tension on purpose. Or maybe, maybe she thinking "oh fuck i was going to break up with you tonight." and maybe he felt that in the weeks prior, thus the public "will you marry me"?

I know I sound like an unromantic cynic (I'm quite the opposite). It's just i was in a similar situation a million years ago. Did I say yes? Of course. No way I was going to disappoint the waiter, nevermind an entire restaurant, staring at me with such hopeful smiles! Inside, I was thinking "hell no." But I said yes and got married and did the whole suburban life with kids thing ... and then the suburban divorced thing ...

my 2nd marriage, however, is going to be forever and then some. and he can ask me anywhere or nowhere -- we both already know we're growing old together. the technicality thing? as soon as we're both able, we'll tie that lose end.

do young girls really dream about their perfect proposal and wedding? huh. i had weird friends perhaps. ok, now i'm going to think about it. and think up my perfect proposal...
This was a great post. Funny, observant and very well written. You have a talent for understanding the ridiculous and nuance. Highly rated for entertainment and intelligence.
loved it :) and nice on the newsletter again!!!
My boss' 21-year-old daughter got engaged, officially with the ring and all, last weekend. They knew that they were going to get married, but she wanted a big to-do with the proposal.

It involved penguins.

Penguins.


(And I'm both happy for her and throwing up in my mouth a little.)
I did this trick once. I will never do it again.
Shaggy, you should have handed them a pack of chewing gum and told them to pull out a stick whenever the going got rough so it would help them pop their ears, as it was going to be all downhill from there. That would have gotten you a few daggerlike looks, I am sure.
caroline- I always love those proposal stories. Nothing against the elaborate proposal, but they always seem to be the best.

MAWB- I had a friend once tell me his proposal plan, which included a public proposal, and I energetically talked him out of it. I don't know what the hell these public proposal people are thinking.

Apache- thanks!

Fiona- I think the scourge of the public proposal can be summed up with yet another Wodehouse quote: "At the age of eleven or thereabouts women acquire a poise and an ability to handle difficult situations which a man, if he is lucky, manages to achieve somewhere in the later seventies." In other words, the lady would know better.

Lisa- This is going to be a story they tell and retell throughout their life together. I think it's a bit depressing that it's so corny.

JK- Well said. Jaded? Nah. Realistic, more likely.

Cindy- I was thinking the same exact thing. Could she say "no?" But I'm glad you've got a perfect happily ever after lined up now. I don't really know if little girls really dream of the perfect engagement since I was never a little girl, but I do remember having the "what my proposal and wedding is going to be like" conversation with some girls in sixth grade. Considering it was something Mr. Right would have to plan, they sure had it figured out.

Cartouche- thanks!

Irate Madre- Good looking out! Thanks for forwarding it to me again!

Dr. Nothing (if I may)- Oh my God. I'm curious about the details, but part of me knows I don't even want to know.

Duane- I hear ya. I don't plan on ever doing that particular trick.
Clever and entertaining post, shaggy!
It's all about the Bride-to-be. It doesn't sound like this one was too enthused about the delivery, regardless of much she rely desired the merchandise.
@Cindy--I know at least one girl who said "Yes" to a restaurant marriage proposal so as not to disappoint the waiter.

She broke up with him a week later, in private.
Hey Shag,
This made me giggle all over myself. YOU ARE ONE FUNNY DUDE.
Yeah, you know guys should always make a giant deal out of the proposal, in some way, to be on the safe side. That way if she's been choreographing her romantic march onto the marriage stage since she took off her "My Little Pony" bib, he's covered, and if she's not into that, then she has a minor gripe about it being over the top. (To which she would receive zero sympathy. 'Aw, poor baby. Fishing for envy, bridie?' Other gals will mutter under their breaths that they'd like to puke hearing her complain and envision punching her lights out.)
Public v. private. That's a tough one. There's a whole bunch of pressure either way. I did have one friend call her wedding off on "the day of" which only she could have pulled off. I didn't witness it, but can only imagine my own personal horror if I felt totally compelled to walk anywhere but down the aisle on that particular morning.
Great writing, I saw you, I saw them, I pictured myself there, seeing it all. Thanks for the story. I wish them well, too.
My first proposal happened in public at the club were our friends had set us up a year before almost to the day on a blind group date. You know the kind. A group of people go out together, but the purpose is to set a couple up with each other.

I was shocked and said yes. Married him six months later, separated and on the way to divorce 15 months later. This was long ago and there has been much water under the bridge since, but the older me wishes the younger me had been wiser.

Public proposals are garbage.
This is an old fashioned view of marriage. Marriages are like fingerprints--no two are alike. One man's marriage is another man's (or woman's) nightmare. There is same sex marriage, plural marriage (OK these aren't legal--but so what?) "swinging" marriage, remarriage to the same partner twice, marriage with frequent separations or a few separations, marriages that break down and come together and marriages that break down and stay that way, there is "sequential polygamy" as Margaret Mead called it--well I better save all this for my own article on my blog! In the meantime, marriage as an archetype is challenging and difficult and wonderful and awful. I am a monastic since 1996 so I opted out of marriage but not because I don't believe it's any good or that it works or not. It doesn't work for me because it's a man's world and all the political power lies with the male gender of our planet, in spite of the illusion of "strides" for women. I am critical of feminism--I think it's the worst thing that happened to women and it freed men up to run from responsibility and evade accountability. I am sure in time this will all change and all things do. In the meantime, coupling seems to be a natural human trait and it's a better unit for raising kids than the explosion of single women doing it now.
I always thought public proposals were somewhat cheesy and risky until my son planned one without anyone's knowledge. He had been overseas performing with his college theatre troupe and the entire cast returned to the U.S. to perform in his college town.

Most of the families showed up for the performance. The show was "Hair" by the way. At the end, after all the curtain calls, someone announced that my son wanted to use the stage for a minute. He called up his girlfriend from the audience, made a short speech of proposal, she accepted in 2 seconds flat and that was it.

He told me later that everyone was there for a show anyway, so a one minute performance didn't seem unreasonable. They had talked about getting married for a year. However, to my relief they said they wanted a long engagement so they could finish school, get jobs, etc.

I sometimes wonder if there is a middle ground between big, orchestrated proposals and proposals so casual one barely remembers them. Mine was the later. I recently had to ask my husband how and when he proposed. Not much of a story, but the near-fiasco of a wedding made up for that.

Also, I am looking forward to the day when gay couples talk of their proposal/wedding stories on those tacky Lifetime/TLC wedding specials.
This is a charming story told in a charming manner. Thank you for eavesdropping, Shags. Your silent enthusiasm for the couple makes the event even more delightful. The EP is well-deserved. Oh, and ditto on the congratulations to the lucky couple.
Love your writing, by the way!

The closest I ever got to a marriage proposal was (over the phone), "My dad says I should marry you... should I?"

To which I replied, "Well, I'm not opposed to the idea".

Wow. Seeing it in writing makes me realize that we are the last two people who should ever get married:)