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JULY 13, 2009 6:12PM

The Great Male Speedo Divide

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Two pictures adorn the entrance of my local swimming pool's changing rooms:  A smiling, humanish male figure wearing short swimming trunks and, standing next to him, another male figure wearing both a frown and below-the-knee swimming trunks.  There's a giant "OUI" plastered on the first man's chest and an equally bold "NON" on his friend's chest, but even without a translation, I'm pretty sure that most men who walk into the changing rooms get the picture: Short Shorts (Translation: Speedos) = Go, Boardshorts = No Go.  I'm not much of a swimmer, so I may not be aware that this short-swimming-trunk business may be protocol in swimming pools everywhere.  But protocol or no protocol, both pictures served as exemplary instances of The Great Male Speedo Divide between America and Europe.   

In America, male Speedos are for swim teams and bad jokes, and most of the men I know wouldn't be caught dead wearing them unless they found themselves on the losing side of a bet or--for a few of the ballsier ones--on a beach in Southern France.  In contrast, when in Europe (or in Geneva, at least), Speedos seem to have monopolized the male swimwear market.  And I'm not just talking about your standard, itty-bitty-and-barely-covering-it-all kind (although they're still going strong); in addition to the barely-there model, it seems that European men also favor the boxer-brief kind of Speedo--kind of like a shorter, tighter Lycra version of the Spandex shorts we were required to wear during high-school volleyball matches.  Not that I'm taking detailed notes or anything. 

I've been told that sanitation is the reason that boardshorts are swimming pool no-nos.  You know, all those germs getting caught up in meters and meters of fabric (or something like that).  But personally, I think that the whole pro-Speedo argument has more to do with vanity.  Or culture.  Or, as the name implies, with speed.  Or, at least at my swimming pool, with small animals. 

Let me explain: once you make it past the prison-cell-like changing rooms that require acrobatic moves to close and open, and after you've gone through the antibacterial foot-spray station (so maybe they weren't lying about that sanitation argument), and after you finally reach the pot 'o liquid gold--the swimming pool itself--you're greeted by another series of pictures and captions to decipher. 

Folding real-estate-looking signs sit at the end of each swimming lane indicating who is and is not permitted to swim in that particular lane.  Most lane signs are picture-free, but all the lanes marked "PUBLIC" are accompanied by either a picture of a red rabbit or a yellow turtle.  I guess they figure that the public can use all the help it can get (I'll admit: it took me a few visits to actually figure out the system even with the aid of pictures.).  Most people probably put two and two together, do a quick self-assessment of their speed, hop--or crawl--into the appropriate lane, and swim away.  And while there's no rocket science or time trials involved in this self-selection process, I know (from personal experience) that there are some people who are willing to do whatever it takes to keep up with the freestyle-stroking rabbits.  And here's where, for men at least, Mr. Speedo beats Mr. Boardshorts any day.  The only question is: if every male is wearing a Speedo, then where does the competetive advantage lay?  I suppose there's something to be said for actual swimming skill, but where would be the fun in that kind of rationale? 

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Too funny- that picture is great. Monsieur Happy Speedo!
Speedos? Haven't worn those in years! Yuck, ouch too constricting. As for the huge board shorts, you need to tie them around your waist as otherwise the weight of water drags them down. So I go for the happy mean, ordinary swimming trunks.
"European men also favor the boxer-brief kind of Speedo--kind of like a shorter, tighter Lycra version of the Spandex shorts..." As soon as you said that, I thought of Daniel Craig as James Bond coming out of the water in Casino Royale -- hot! On a side note, it is funny how American guys like board shorts over speedos but then wear baggy pants that drop down and show off their plumber's crack. You would think his underwear or two man peaches popping out past his belt would seem more "gay" than speedos. I guess all that extra fabric is really about package size insecurity.
I remember those footbaths. We used to walk on the concrete ledge around them to avoid the skim-milky liquid in them.
That incomprehensible contemporary men's fashion trend mentioned in Mlle Aoa's comment - the buttock display - is really due for some kind of deconstruction.
That incomprehensible contemporary men's fashion trend mentioned in Mlle Aoa's comment - the buttock display - is really due for some kind of deconstruction.
I hate long board shorts. No one looks good in them - they look sloppy and childish. Speedos are much more attractive, unless of course you have a super unattractive body, but then, even long board shorts don't make a super unattractive body look *better*. So it's moot.

My ex was a long board shorts guy. Then we spent a few weeks in Brasil and slowly but surely he became very self conscious about wearing so much clothing when everyone - and I do mean, EVERY man - was wearing a speedo. He bought one and now prefers it, and his body is just average but he looks quite nice in it.
On the sanitation issue: Back when I was living in Germany, I visited our little town's public pool. If I remember correctly, there was a Speedo rule in place and a bathing cap rule.
I think it's a Euro-fairness thing: because the women wear so little, it's only fair that the men wear a Speedo. I love it! Rated
Too funny! We're off to France this week. Please don't tell my husband he's required to wear a Speedo!
I think you just capped my #11 to Athena Bradford's inquiry:

Must have buttocks tight enough to wear and be unselfconscious in a Speedo.

:-D
Great article. Its never the guys you want to see in those Speedos, huh? I went to Australia a couple years ago, and all the old guys with hairy backs and big guts were wearing those tiny little swim suits on the beach. Ick!
I would have interpreted that sign to allow conventional swim suits ABOVE the knee. My German cousin visits us every year to come to the Beach (Florida panhandle). We mercilessly tease him about his Speedos, etc. I know in Europe the roles would be reversed.
I feel compelled to point out that above-the-knee does not necessarily = speedos. Even the rather amusing picture of the above-the-knee trunk option does not depict a speedo. There are plenty of boardshort style trunks that are about mid-thigh length that would satisfy the European pool requirement as stated in the sign and are not speedos.

It's true that many European men prefer the Speedo style trunks, but that is a different issue altogether from Speedos being required. The sign you base your post on doesn't necessarily equate to Speedos being required.

That being said, my own preference is boardshorts for a pool party/lounging about situation, but Speedos are definitely better for swimming laps/exercise.
mutant freak:

I completely agree with you that above-the-knee swimwear does not necessarily = Speedo, and my post was a bit misleading in that sense. I suppose that the picture simply reminded me of the Speedo debate, and that the picture, combined with seeing only Speedos at the swimming pool, made me think of differences between American male swimwear prefrences vs. European.

But yes, you are correct, and thanks for pointing that out!
My own personal aversion to Speedos goes back to my very brief stay on my local youth YMCA swim team. I couldn't get the boys to stay in the fabric... very embarassing... spent the next decade wondering why anyone would subject themselves to such discomfort. Still haven't figured that one out completely.
"The Great Male Speedo Divide" is about swim trunks? I thought it was about wedgies!

You wrote, "Or, at least at my swimming pool, with small animals."
Yeah! Those Euro-trash boys are small where it counts.
I prefer wearing a "speedo" over a trunk style suit because they dry faster and hold less water -- I do not get as cold (I have low body fat), I chafe less, and I can move a lot more easy getting in and out of the water.

I realize that many are opposed to men wearing speedos; however, is this not an unfair double standard because traditional women's swimwear (one or two piece) is form fitting and next to their skin. What is the aversion to the male form?

A man can wear a speedo and not neccessarily be "showing off" or be homosexual.
All men should buy a speedo, they don't have to wear it, they just have to threaten to. Check out my full explanation:

http://www.squidoo.com/grapesmuggler
I have now problem with speedos. I were to them YMCA and it is normal and to some beaches it is acceptable. Highschool and popularity contest are over at 17.

To me it's more of a cultural issue where US media has an aversion to male form. Penises are not frequently seen in media like Europe, so some hang ups develop. However that said it is generally best left to moderately athletic people with low body fat, by common sense.

We al know many US women lack commen sense in age body type appropriate clothing so go ahead I don;t care!
I swim laps in my speedo and to hell with whoever doesn't like it. When I'm hanging out at a pool/beach, I wear the trunks because people are such douches about a guy with an "outline," staring, pointing, giggling. I'd rather be wearing the speedo. Why? 'Cause it's closer to wearing nothing at all, which is where I'd REALLY rather be. Funny how a "package" that's just out there for all to see doesn't get people nearly as upset as one that's Saran-wrapped and still leaves something to the imagination.

God, you'd think no one had ever seen a penis before.