
The New York Times Magazine had a long feature article this past weekend on research into that great mystery: Women’s sexual desire. (And yes, they lacked imagination and titled it What Do Women Want? in homage to Freud’s timeless question. I’ve decided to be a bit more tabloidesque with my title.)
It’s a great article (linked above) but in case you’re short on time, I’m going to use this post to summarize some of the key findings by the all female band of researchers that were interviewed, as well as adding my own thoughts. (All bold type segments are quotes from the article.)
Meredith Chivers, a Canadian psych professor, attached both men and women to plethysmographs (contraptions that measure physical response in their genitals – in women, it’s a little plastic probe that sits in the vagina and measures engorgement and lubrication), and then showed them various visual stimuli, including film of bonobos mating, as well as clips of “heterosexual sex, male and female homosexual sex, a man masturbating, a woman masturbating, a chiseled man walking naked on a beach and a well-toned woman doing calisthenics in the nude.”
Part of what happened was unsurprising: The men responded in “category specific” ways – the straight men to all the images of women, including lesbian sex but “mostly unmoved” when only men were on the screen, whereas the gay men were aroused in the exact opposite fashion. None of the men were excited by the bonobos. Participants were also given a keypad on which they rated their subjective measurement of their own desire, and these ratings corresponded to what the plethysmographs showed – or as the article says, “The men’s minds and genitals were in agreement.” But:
All was different with the women. No matter what their self-proclaimed sexual orientation, they showed, on the whole, strong and swift genital arousal when the screen offered men with men, women with women and women with men. They responded objectively much more to the exercising woman than to the strolling man, and their blood flow rose quickly — and markedly, though to a lesser degree than during all the human scenes except the footage of the ambling, strapping man — as they watched the apes. And with the women, especially the straight women, mind and genitals seemed scarcely to belong to the same person. The readings from the plethysmograph and the keypad weren’t in much accord. During shots of lesbian coupling, heterosexual women reported less excitement than their vaginas indicated; watching gay men, they reported a great deal less; and viewing heterosexual intercourse, they reported much more. Among the lesbian volunteers, the two readings converged when women appeared on the screen. But when the films featured only men, the lesbians reported less engagement than the plethysmograph recorded. Whether straight or gay, the women claimed almost no arousal whatsoever while staring at the bonobos.
This research suggests that the answer to Freud’s question, “What do women want?” is: “Just about everything -- but they don’t know that.”
Perhaps I should pause at this point to raise a question some of you may be pondering: Why is it so important to know what women desire?
Well, unlike men, for whom sexual dysfunction is rarely about lack of desire but instead about functional issues (inability to get or maintain an erection or premature ejaculation, etc.) for women, the primary sexual dysfunction is lack of desire. Even as I write this, pharmaceutical companies are working feverishly to try to find a way to boost female desire, because if they do, they’ll have a multi-billion dollar goldmine that would put ED drugs like Viagra to shame. But so far women’s feelings of sexual desire have remained largely immune to pharmaceutical answers.
In men who have trouble getting erect, the genital engorgement aided by Viagra and its rivals is often all that’s needed. The pills target genital capillaries; they don’t aim at the mind. The medications may enhance male desire somewhat by granting men a feeling of power and control, but they don’t, for the most part, manufacture wanting. And for men, they don’t need to. Desire, it seems, is usually in steady supply. In women, though, the main difficulty appears to be in the mind, not the body, so the physiological effects of the drugs have proved irrelevant. The pills can promote blood flow and lubrication, but this doesn’t do much to create a conscious sense of desire.
As researchers seek to unravel the secrets of women’s sexual desire, some tantalizing information is beginning to emerge. One that Chivers’ research with the plethysmographs suggests is that women seem to have an “inborn system of arousal,” but one that is almost entirely physiological, which accounts for the disparity between women’s subjective reading of their desire and what the instruments in their genitals show. (And invites a new version of an old saying, “Your mind may say No No, but your vagina says Yes Yes.”)
A corollary of this finding is simple but startling: Since for women the feeling of sexual desire often doesn’t register until after their bodies become physically aroused, they often will not feel sexual desire until after they have already begun to have sex.
While men tend to feel desire first and initiate sexual activity in response, for women, more often desire arises during sexual activity. This probably seems dead obvious to both women and men who have sex with women, since it’s well-known that women need more foreplay than men do to “be ready”. But it also suggests that waiting for female desire to appear may be pointless. If you don’t feel “in the mood,” the best way to get there is to just start having sex. If you have an open mind and a loving, patient partner, chances are you’ll get in the mood before too long.

However, this becomes a trickier issue when one separates physiological readiness from subjective desire, something that all women may be familiar with without ever having had a plethysmograph attached to them. Sometimes you feel desirous as all get out, but your genitals seem to be asleep on the job, while other times you’d rather be reading a book, but your vagina’s so hot to trot that you’re slipping off the couch. Hormonal fluctuations play a big role (see “days right after period” for Scenario A and “ovulation!” for Scenario B) but they aren’t the whole story. Added to this is the strange fact that while men always know when they have an erection, women may often be unaware if their genitals are having a Britney Spears or a Mother Theresa moment until someone provides tactile confirmation. We really don’t always know if we’re ready to go or not, as the disparity between those plethysmographs and the women's subjective ratings of desire showed.

Still another tricky issue is equating physiological readiness with desire. One theory holds that women’s “inborn system of arousal” is a survival mechanism evolved from earlier human times when human sexuality on a day to day basis was not exactly oriented towards female consent, much less desire. For pure survival reasons, women’s bodies needed to be able to adjust to sex quickly, even if they didn’t want to have it. (Contemporary research revealing arousal and even orgasm in some female victims of rape and molestation despite the trauma they have suffered also suggests that a woman’s physiological response may be quite separate from her emotional state.)
Still more controversy may arise when researchers delve into what turns women on, including in fantasy.
From early glances at her data, Chivers said, she guesses she will find that women are most turned on, subjectively if not objectively, by scenarios of sex with strangers.
Similarly, another researcher, Marta Meana, raises the tantalizing idea that far from sex being more emotional for women, as is always suggested, it may actually be less so than for men.
For women, “being desired is the orgasm,” Meana said somewhat metaphorically — it is, in her vision, at once the thing craved and the spark of craving.

The generally accepted therapeutic notion that, for women, incubating intimacy leads to better sex is, Meana told me, often misguided. “Really,” she said, “women’s desire is not relational, it’s narcissistic” — it is dominated by the yearnings of “self-love,” by the wish to be the object of erotic admiration and sexual need. Still on the subject of narcissism, she talked about research indicating that, in comparison with men, women’s erotic fantasies center less on giving pleasure and more on getting it. “When it comes to desire,” she added, “women may be far less relational than men.”
Meana’s research dovetails with Chivers’ in the tricky area of what most turns women on, and the collision of that hot fantasy with women’s pragmatic and emotional sides:
Yet while Meana minimized the role of relationships in stoking desire, she didn’t dispense with the sexual relevance, for women, of being cared for and protected. “What women want is a real dilemma,” she said. Earlier, she showed me, as a joke, a photograph of two control panels, one representing the workings of male desire, the second, female, the first with only a simple on-off switch, the second with countless knobs. “Women want to be thrown up against a wall but not truly endangered. Women want a caveman and caring. If I had to pick an actor who embodies all the qualities, all the contradictions, it would be Denzel Washington. He communicates that kind of power and that he is a good man.”

While men’s desire seems focused on “the other” – what their partner looks like, etc – for women it may be more about how they are seen. Men want to desire their partners; women want to be desired. Men can be aroused by a picture of naked woman without any idea if she’s sexually aroused, but some research shows that woman only find male nudes arousing if the man is himself visibly aroused (and in fact, experience the sight of an unerect penis as a sign of rejection). Men are used to women’s sexual desire being suggested by their demeanor but ultimately hidden until there is intimate contact, whereas women are used to a blatant confirmation that a man wants them, and wants them bad.

Turning from het sex, another researcher, Lisa Diamond, has focused on women’s sexual “fluidity” as exemplified by some famous cases of straight women (e.g., Anne Heche and Julie Cypher) who became “lesbians” for one partner and then reverted to heterosexuality after the relationships ended. Diamond’s research with other non-famous women suggests that emotional connection and closeness are such primary drivers of desire that they will override innate sexual orientation. Or that women’s sexual orientation is by nature more fluid, even as society and culture point most women towards heterosexuality. As someone who has seen female friends “switch sides,” I have to give some credence to this theory.
The article concludes with a thought that I first had about twenty years ago, and which may render any scientific research moot for the time being:
There was the chance that the long history of fear might have buried the nature of women’s lust too deeply to unearth, to view.

Given that women’s sexuality has been shrouded in religious, cultural and societal norms for all of human history -- and yes, I think it’s still clouded by all these elements even now, and even in “progressive” societies like ours -- I think it’s impossible to say what truly unfettered female sexuality would feel like and look like in action. Perhaps I’ll live long enough to find out.
In the meantime, research continues, including in my own home.


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This article doesn't mention another mystery, which is why human females have orgasms when they haven't been detected in any other animals (and they've discredited the theory that orgasms aids ovulation or conception).
Are we just lucky? Or is this proof there is a god?
Great piece. Funny how Freud ( a man) claimed to know so much about women. Well, I'm sure he knew more than me. But I bet my marriage is more successful than his. He couldn't argue that.
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I've also wondered about your question. what if women had economic and legal parity around the world? what if myths had not blamed sin and evil in the world on females?
I happen to be working on a post about monogamy---an invention of the male (would be my guess and something I suspect most women only *think* they want or need. Somehow, I imagine, it all ties together---
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Paris, isn't it weird how women must be veiled to protect men from their sexuality? Women's sexuality is considered so powerful it must be suppressed. Lots of paradoxes there.
m.a.h. I look forward to your posting on that! There is a lot of interesting data from both the animal and human world about female monogamy being less than people suspect.
Lady Miko, I was a little worried I'd get busted for monkey porn, but maybe TPTB here at OS are looking the other way today.
Lisa, I'm curious about that bonobo film, too. Not that I really want a plethysmograph attached to me to find out if it "works" for me....
Kalvin...I guess that's one way of looking at it.
On one point, I bet most of us can agree: "Women want a caveman and caring. If I had to pick an actor who embodies all the qualities, all the contradictions, it would be Denzel Washington. He communicates that kind of power and that he is a good man.”
I found this very relevant:
"The generally accepted therapeutic notion that, for women, incubating intimacy leads to better sex is, Meana told me, often misguided. “Really,” she said, “women’s desire is not relational, it’s narcissistic” — it is dominated by the yearnings of “self-love,” by the wish to be the object of erotic admiration and sexual need. Still on the subject of narcissism, she talked about research indicating that, in comparison with men, women’s erotic fantasies center less on giving pleasure and more on getting it. “When it comes to desire,” she added, “women may be far less relational than men.”
Holly, I found that bit particularly interesting, too, and it intuitively seemed right to me.
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Grif, I thought someone would comment on that, too!
When I read the piece last Sunday, I was nodding the whole time in agreement, thinking to myself yes, yes, that’s the way it is, yes. In fact it was all kind of obvious. I was happy to see research confirm my own personal experiences and theories.
So I was shocked to later read the blogosphere commentary and find that so many people, male and female, disputed or disbelieved the results of the research!
It seems so straight-forward to me that female physical arousal is at least partially linked to what was a defense mechanism: not getting torn apart when cavemen had their way with you (I doubt very many men were politically correct about sex 50,000 years ago).
A quibble though: the women in the studies were not *unaware* of their arousal, they just weren’t mentally turned on (and probably didn’t want to admit to the physical arousal). But when your crotch engorges with blood and you get wet, trust me, you know. And every woman has had it happen: they see/hear/watch something mentally and emotionally disgusting and disturbing (say, really degrading porn), something they hate, but their body suddenly goes ZING! It’s actually a very unpleasant and upsetting experience.
But I think guys can imagine it. Here’s a thought experiment: if I showed a room of guys a video of a man having sex with a very attractive 12 year old girl, I bet most of them would become involuntarily physically aroused. But mentally and emotionally, do they really think that’s desirable? No! Body and mind don’t always agree. Mind wins though.
But I do disagree with this part of your comment: "But when your crotch engorges with blood and you get wet, trust me, you know."
Uh, trust me, no, not all women do, all the time. This is partly an age thing (I may be older than you) but it's also a matter of degree. It's happened to me at various times my entire life, even when young.
Yes, if you have the female equivalent of a raging hard-on, you know it. But there's a huge spectrum of female excitement, and there's also a variation in how aware any individual woman is of her own excitement. Women can think they're wet and yet they're not and vice versa. That was precisely the point made in this article, too -- it says the women reported feeling no excitement and yet their bodies were aroused. That means they were unaware of what was happening physically.
Another issue not mentioned is "sexual bonding," which really needs to be discussed more and without all the moral mumbo-jumbo. Whereby the earliest sexual experiences form a lifetime pattern for the person, male or female, this is also true in the case of a particular couple.
This is why the question of "entry" is so crucial--and why it's not so smart to "mating" genitally from the male or female perspective before a certain level of arousal is achieved. Otherwise, the parties can spend a lifetime trying to correct of it, and still not be successful, and find themselves terribly dissatisfied in the primary relationship and having to go one place for sex and another place for love.
I'm not sure it takes a laboratory either to figure this one out. Anybody who went for it too soon will tell you tell you about the "misfortunes" of a faulty bond, or one that is trauma based--especially if there is a history of early sexual trauma, or incest, which really changes the rules of the game.
Perhaps some honest woman will tell more under the guise of anonymity, but even then the taboos surrounding female sexuality are so strong and the truth hard to come by. Since women are the sexual "arbitrators" until the dialogue expands to include the truth of their experience the "darkness" will continue.
I'm sorry if this is badly typed, and probably has errors, but I don't have much time right now, but wanted to get in my two cents.
Cheers.
Whoa. If I understand you correctly: to say what would turn "men" on is pedophilia is a bit much. Some of us (me included) have daughters. And yes, while that is true of some males, to generalize in that way doesn't say much about what you think of my sex.
If I see a man having sex with a child, I am more likely to attack him than I am to receive stimulation from it.
I think the problem is that people mistook the analysis of physical desire/arousal with their opinions about romantic/relational desire. Which of course, the whole point of the article is that often, the two are not related. Maybe that is a surprise for some men? I don't know.
It's funny, there's the old cliche that men want a lady on the street and a whore in the bedroom. Turns out women probably want a sweetheart in the kitchen and an animal in bed.
That sometimes what can be mentally and emotionally enraging/disgusting/horrid can make your body physically respond, involuntarily, nonetheless. Which explains the arousal that sometimes occurs during rape, as discussed in Silkstone's post. Maybe I am off-base and it NEVER happens that way for men -- only women -- but that would surprise me.
U never heard of violent rapists? It's the fear that turns them on, not the sex. Or have you heard of necrophilia? They get turned on by fucking the dead. The capacity for maladaptation in humans is the same as the capacity for socially approved adaptation.
Which leads me to quote Hakuin, a Zen Buddhist master in the 17th century: "The truth of self-nature is no nature." We are the most totally self-created creatures on the planet--that is what makes us its masters and its potential destroyers. And all we really want is a little lovin' from the "one." See my post on the "Crooked Heart's Club." Almost nobody got it, but I'm stickin' to it and don't give a fuck if it got one bloody thumb.
I think all humans are at least sometimes turned on by things they'd never ever really want to do. As the article describes (I skimmed over this in my post as it's rather controversial and easily misinterpreted), it's extremely common for women to have some version of rape fantasies. Does this mean women really want to be raped? God, no!
But in a controlled fantasy, the idea of having a man overpower you may be a turn on. (in the fantasy, of course, you really want the guy, he's just being rather aggressive - far from what real sexual assault is like.) I blogged about this previously in my James Bond post a while back, including about how this "forceful man" fantasy appears in just about every female-directed romance novel you can name, showing how common it is.
Men also fantasize about things they don't really want to do, both as perpetrators and recipients (use your imagination here). And both genders respond to images in porn and non-porn media that don't represent things they'd really do. To some degree, as this article suggests, such responses are involuntary. We respond to words and images about sexual activity even when they go against our conscious thoughts, feelings or values. We have physical reactions that don't correspond to what we really want to do, or would ever do.
I am all complicated switches and dials....i confess this freely.
One day he announced to everyone that he had figured out what women want. Of course we all wanted to know and prepared ourselves mentally for the pearl of wisdom we were about to receive.
"What women want," he pronounced, ever so seriously, "is to be told that they are beautiful," he paused for effect, "and that I am rich." I reckon that he pretty much had it figured out and he didn't need to insert any probes into vaginas to do it.
"Complicated switches and dials" - great way to put it!
Ablonde, that's very funny. Reminds me of a friend who asked her mother why she married her father and she said, "Because he thought I was wonderful." you can't go wrong with adoration, even without money, IMO.
I would take issue with you there-- Monogamy is not really a male thing. Its something males put up with to get women. Who seem to insist upon it. Whereas the male would happily have a whole harem of women if he could get away with it.