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MARCH 26, 2010 8:43PM

My 10 Most Influential Books

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(In answer to my own Open Call, found here.  Hope you participate!)


The most intriguing aspect of this exercise was that almost all the books I came up with were ones that I read before the age of 25.  Intriguing but rather dispiriting! I’d like to think that I continue to develop as a person even now, but if that’s true, it’s happening because of influences other than books!

Perhaps it’s because I had to do this exercise in a very pure fashion:  About a year ago, I packed all my books into boxes for moving, and I haven’t unpacked them since.  So there was no peering into the bookshelf – I had to go with what came to mind, and I think that tilted the list towards ones imprinted on me long ago.  (That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.)

I’m going to take a page from another person’s list and talk about these roughly in the order that I read them in my life. I also combined some books that had similar effects on me into a single entry.

The Diary of Anne Frank

I’ve blogged before about what Anne Frank has meant to me so will keep this one brief.  I first read Anne’s diary somewhere between the ages of 10 and 12 and it opened up both the universal and the horrific -- not only the Holocaust, but the sufferings of war in general -- but also the personal and inspiring -- that a young girl like myself could express her deepest thoughts and feelings in writing and have others value her words.  This still may be the single most influential book I’ve ever read.

Gone with the Wind
by Margaret Mitchell

Ironically, I first read GWTW at age 11 as we drove across country while moving from Virginia to California. As my opportunity to become a Southern belle receded into the distance, I learned lessons about womanhood and relationships that presciently portrayed a pattern I’d live out for many years:  pursuing elusive men rather than choosing real love. (The twist being that in real life, it’s Rhett Butler that women pine for, while overlooking the Ashley Wilkes right under their nose.)  On the positive side, flawed as she was, Scarlett in her rebellious strength provided me with a primitive feminist role model – something in short supply in my 1960’s childhood.

A Tree Grows in Brooklyn
by Betty Smith

This beautifully written and emotionally frank autobiographical novel has fallen into obscurity, which is a shame.  I first read it to understand my father’s childhood in Brooklyn in the same (early 20th century) era, although he grew up in the Jewish section of the borough and Smith in the Irish Catholic one (this felicitously melded my mother’s heritage into the story as well).  Like Anne Frank, the protagonist seemed to channel my own dreams, fears and hopes, including the desire to be a writer. While the young Francie Nolan devours novels on her noisy tenement fire escape to evade her impoverished life, and I secreted myself in quiet suburbia, we both found in books the worlds that we longed for.  When she succeeds in attending college as well as having a career (no mean feat for a young woman in her era), it gave me a reassuring preview of my own future.

Lord of the Flies
by William Goldman/1984 by George Orwell

I read these books for class assignments in early adolescence and they created in me a still-abiding distrust of human nature as well as of the societies and systems that people create.  Lord of the Flies triggered a lifelong terror of mobs by convincing me that ordinary people, even children, can descend into senseless violence under the right conditions.  (The Diary of Anne Frank, which I'd already read, added the most powerful of historical evidence to back up this claim.) But just when I might be tempted to flee to the reassurances of strict order, 1984 revealed the flipside:  the danger of institutions, laws and societal controls. Do you want anarchy or a prison?  These books showed me that incredible danger lurks at both ends of the spectrum, and that the ideal middle is often elusive.

The Bible by…a whole lot of people.

Having been raised Catholic, I was only glancingly familiar with the Bible until I became a born-again Christian at age 16.   I read, re-read and studied it intently for the next 6 years, attempting to live by its tenets, before leaving Fundamentalism after college graduation (I used that event to make a clean break). I’d been steeped in Judeo-Christian imagery and beliefs my entire life, but studying the Bible added layers to my understanding of how it permeates our culture in endless subtle ways that we don’t notice. And I still recall select Bible verses in which I find wisdom or usefulness. (E.g. “All things are lawful but not all things edify” -- a reminder that we may be free to say or do anything we want, but not all actions benefit ourselves or others.)

Collected Poems by ee cummings
Cummings was the first poet that I fell in love with, and like many of his fans, I wrote reams of poetry trying to copy his style, which seemed deceptively simple and casual but proved impossible to duplicate. In my first attempt to copy a master, I learned an essential lesson, which was how much craft lurks behind seemingly effortless writing. I realized that to write well, I’d have to work long and hard to make it look easy. As for poetry, I stopped writing it out of respect for the form, which I could never do justice to.

The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath/Diary of a Mad Housewife by Sue Kaufman
The Bell Jar has become a modern classic in part because it’s a veiled account of Plath’s own life, but also because it captured an emotional suffocation that many young women were feeling in the 1950’s and early 1960’s.  Sadly, Kaufman’s more artfully written (and extremely funny) novel on the choking effects of traditional marriage and motherhood has fallen into obscurity.  After pairing these, I realized that both authors met the same fate, suicide, after writing powerful accounts of the induced neurosis of women’s lives before feminism. Both books portray women on the brink of liberation, longing for a freedom that came just a bit too late to save either their protagonists or their authors.  Reading them in late adolescence made me determined not to succumb to a role or a way of life that would leave me feeling equally trapped – however, I won’t go so far as to say that they’re the reason I never married or had children!

Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte/Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
The real and fictional Janes led me to a love of 19th century literature, but were equally important in shaping my ideas about women’s lives.  Both Jane Eyre and Elizabeth Bennett are heroines for the ages – intelligent, articulate, passionate and strong as hell. I was struck by the fact that while their circumstances were quite different ( impoverished orphan vs. member of the gentry), their feelings (they want to be known, in the deepest and fullest sense) and imperatives (they must marry in order to have a chance at a satisfying life) were so similar.  In combination with the two more modern novels I just discussed, they made me realize that women’s lives hadn’t changed much in hundreds of years, and that affluence was no guarantee of happiness. Even today, all doors seem open, yet women still struggle with the same dilemma:  how to find true intimacy with someone who accepts them just as they are.  (Don’t believe me?  Just pick up any piece of contemporary “chick lit.”)  Neither Jane nor Elizabeth changes who she is and yet both find love. Compare that to women today who shape their lives and selves according to what magazines, music, movies and TV tell them they should be. Who is truly free?

The Dispossessed by Ursula K. LeGuin/A Severe Mercy by Sheldon Vanauken
The first is an award-winning sci-fi classic, while the second is an obscure Christian memoir, but both books were influential in validating my instinctive aversion to materialism and consumerism, the “stuff” that American society is both made of and obsessed by, rather than emotional and spiritual connection, which is what speaks to me.  The Dispossessed portrays an anarchic society which functions with minimal personal property and a cooperative system of working and living, in contrast to the mother planet the inhabitants have fled, which is a stand-in for Earth/America. An enviro-feminist, LeGuin parallels the mindless material consumption with the need to possess other people in relationships. (On the anarchic planet, there is no marriage, and one refers to “the partner” instead of “my partner.”)  A Severe Mercy deals with fairly traditional Christianity (Vanauken and his wife converted in part due to a friendship with C.S. Lewis) yet the Vanaukens had the same philosophy, including not letting material objects cause marital strife (which led to the couple cheerfully hammering a deliberate dent in a new car, so that neither would get the blame for the inevitable first ding later).  When his beloved wife dies young, Vanauken is thrown into a spiritual crisis, not just because he is angry at God, but because he learns that it’s even easier to grasp selfishly onto a memory than onto a living person. Both books challenged me to consider how I might wish to “possess” another person even if I shunned materialism.

The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne/Tess of the d’Urbervilles by Thomas Hardy/ The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood

While several books listed above explore the condition of women, these three focus on female sexuality, a topic I began to write about when choosing the first two for my Master’s thesis, and which has continued to fascinate me through a memoir and many blog posts. All three novels address the punishment women may endure for simply being sexual creatures.  While the two venerable classics illuminate a world that we like to assume is safely behind us, Atwood’s dystopian fantasy portrays a near-future when Fundamentalist Christians have taken over America, and instituted a fascistic society that subjugates women in every conceivable way -- literally (the few remaining fertile women are forced to be “handmaids” of powerful men, who try to impregnate them). Minorities and the majority of men also suffer at the hands of a powerful elite who justify their acts with religious dogma while secretly indulging in “sins.” This contemporary nightmare was entirely plausible at the time it was published in the 1980’s, when the Religious Right was at the height of its power, buoyed up by Reagan’s presidency. Atwood was prescient in predicting how access to our money would become increasingly computerized and thus easy to manipulate, as well as pointing out the dangers of the concentration of power. With extremists once again threatening to re-make America according to their own twisted ideals, and large corporations gaining ever more political power, her work remains a warning to me that no freedom should ever be taken for granted.

 

 

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I'd forgotten about A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. My dad raved about the book, and I think we might even have seen a movie based on it. I eventually read it at a fairly young age, and remember crying at some point when somebody died - maybe the father? I remember the book now with a sense of poignant innocence.

Thanx, BTW, for suggesting this Open Call. Great idea! (r)
I don't know how many times I read "A Tree Grows In Brooklyn."I remember reading it while eating my cereal in the morning. I would open it to any page and just begin the day. _r
Thanks, all! And a reminder to anyone does this Open Call to PM me so I can add a link to your post on the official Open call post I did....

Jane, yes, I think most kids like to read books about people like them -- in my case, smart girls who read and eventually wrote books!

Clark and Stellaa, yes, "Tree" is an absolutely wonderful book! And they actually made a quite good movie out of it in the 40's or 50's (as well as a terrible TV remake in the 70's).

Stellaa, as I mentioned on Blumenthal's blog when he was ranting about Austen a while ago, I think she's greatly misunderstood. She's satirizing and criticizing what people tend to think she's endorsing. But it can be hard to get that with a 20th ce perspective -- I have lit profs to thank for illuminating her. She actually was a feminist writer, exposing what even well-born women were subject to, as well as skewering society in general.
Joan, you slipped in! Yes, I read it many times, too. In fact, if I hadn't packed my books, I'd be tempted to read it again starting tonight....

I also really love a subsequent novel she wrote, Maggie-Now, which is even less well-known and also wonderful.
Extensive, varied list here. I had forgotten about Ursula LeGuin.
I loved all those books, although I didn't read The Dispossessed and the other one you have with it. I never read the Bible from cover to cover, either, being Catholic :) but I *do* know all the stories, having been through 16 years of Catholic schooling. I didn't know you were ever a fundamentalist, Silkstone! It just doesn't fit.

Because I'm a lazy son-of-a-gun, I'm just going to put a few books of my own down right here on your blog. How rude! But I don't have time to do the whole explanation or think of all ten, so here are a few that were influential: A Lantern in Her Hand (quite the feminist protagonist in retrospect--an oldie from the forties at least); Little Women and Jo's Boys; Exodus; All Quiet on the Western Front. I'm going to have to think about some more...
great list. several of these are my favorites too, and I've read all but one. now I'm off to find "a severe mercy." thank-you.
Interesting list there Silk. Memoires, poetry and mostly fiction, though I suspect that's not where you would place the Bible. I liked how there were coherent themes to the selection; it suggests you know yourself and are well-grounded.

You also raised one possible contradiction amongst them. While in some, like P&P, women mostly feel consigned to latching onto the good provider, where did they go in A Handmaid's Tale? That note rang a little false to me. It seemed odd that the rich and powerful had to compel women. Quite different than our world or most others I'm familiar with.

I wonder if books one likes a lot wind up being influences, albeit inadvertently. While I reckon I'd pick stuff like Orwell's essays and much of Gore Vidal, I also really like PG Wodehouse. Could that be a big influence on my sense of humor?

Thanks for the thought-provoking post.
Silkstone, what a wonderful Open Call! I'm enjoying visiting different blogs and seeing what folks are writing. As far as your choices - I see several of my all time favorites among your list here. I share your great admiration for Anne Frank. Of course, I read the sanitized version years ago, and only a few years ago got ahold of the revised edition. I enjoyed both versions very much, and am always struck with an almost reverent calm at what she and millions of other individuals suffered. ~r
OK, I came back to add another one to my list, which is right here on silky's blog, hee hee: The Elements of Style. I stole it from voicegal but it rung true immediately as influential to me. I can still see myself reading it at my job in Buffalo right out of college while I was supposed to be doing something else. I would sneak the book off some other dude's shelf, close the door to my office, and read it in the dark, pretending I wasn't in there.
And now I'm back to say that I didn't mean The Elements of Style, I meant On Writing Well, by William Zinsser. I would never hide out and risk my job over The Elements of Style. But for Zinsser? Yes.

lord, silkstone, you'll be sorry you ever invited me over.
A biography of Abigail Adams when I was in like second grade. And a big coffee-table picture book with WW II pics in it. My siblings and I would sneak looks at the bloody photographs and were seriously, deeply horrified, even as we were intrigued.
Silkstone,
I think you've set almost an impossible task for me. I would love to list ten books, but it's going to take me a while to figure out what they are.
But, like you, for some reason, JANE EYRE has stuck with me. Still one of my favorite 19th century novels. Terrific idea for an open call.
Many of my choices were books I read before I turned 25 too. Yes, The Bell Jar still resonates, as do many of your other choices, especially The Handmaid's Tale.
great list. I love The Diary of Anne Frank and The Scarlett Letter also. And this is the perfect mudluscious time of the year for e.e. cummings. Thanks for the reminder. R.
Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle wrote a novel called "Inferno," in which Our Hero--a thinly-disguised Larry Niven--dies, and ends up in Dante's inferno . . . for real. Recently a sequel came out in which one of the main characters is . . . Sylvia Plath.

I'm wondering if we should create a list of books that we *rebelled against*, books that were supposed to influence us--or maybe influenced lots of other folks--but left us high and dry. Catcher in the Rye, for example, heads my personal list. (And a skinny nerd who gets chased and beat up by bullies doesn't need a Goldman to hammer home the point that kids can be cruel and capricious and brutal. Not that I dislike the book; it's message was just redundant by the time I got around to reading it in High School.)
I am getting insomnia, dementia, or shiftless.
I'm so groggy from celibacy I'm getting obese.
I'll go sign up for a facelift and read Facebook.
I followed good crazies here to annoys all day.
I can't keep up with `What in tarnations right?
I did read the feminist books. Why women ask?
Why do feminist ask men to read cooking book?
Tess @ whatsircalled did a inner makeover on me.
Atwood ref angels. etc. She's Canadian? Tess? wow.
Thomas Hardy really does a inner transformation.
I mark book up with a ?, or *, or ! or wow. headache.
My head throbs. Fleas? Bedbug? Amnesia? Lonely?
I should go to bed and itch. I got poison ivy. no sleep.
I go sleep with a few feminist dental and metal books.
stupid. i's becoming a danger to self. I need two facelift.
Your list is brilliant, and your commentary so well constructed. Brava!
ahhh we share so many. I didn't include the Atwood. But I may (after I put in hunter thompson)

but The Diary of Anne Frank...changed me. Made me see the importance of the ordinary things, like walking and reading and writing and living and privacy and love and fear and courage. The elements of life we take for granted that are so precious. I wonder if it is still required reading because it should be.

I felt like I was reading the words of a long lost sister, she and I the same age when i read her diary. We had lived the same amount of time and that jolted me, as well as drove home the reality of my own Polish Jewish family, also eliminated from the face of the earth thanks to the Nazi death machine. It made me wonder about them, and what their final months were like.
Thanks for all your comments!! I had to get off the computer after spending a lot of the day on, and then I've been updating the link list on the Open Call post so people can find everyone else's lists so haven't had time to comment here but I really appreciate all your responses!

I've been floored at how many people (all women so far) who not only have read A Tree Grows in Brooklyn but also loved it as much as I did. I think of it as an obscure book at this point and I'm so glad to hear it's still known.

Just a few responses right now...more later:

Stellaa, I know what you mean by story telling power and the Brontes. They are writing stories in a way that Austen is not (as she's focusing more on social satire, I think). The more I found out about how the Brontes spent their childhoods in such an isolated and haunting place, and how they invented worlds and told each other stories, the more I understood their work.

Lainey, I haven't been a Fundie for about 30 years now, but it had some lasting impact. Definitely an important part of my life, those 6 years.

Dolores, I should warn you and others that A Severe Mercy may not be your cup of tea. Not only is it fairly Christian but it can also be rather sentimental and even maudlin. But as I write above, there are aspects of it that have really stuck with me, which is how I judge "influence".

Abra, I actually joked to someone else that my list was almost all fiction...including the Bible! I actually feel a bit bad that there's no straight non-fiction on it but I think that's the way I am -- I learn through story. It's actually the most effective way to teach anything -- as I always says, "Jesus spoke in parables." He didn't give Power Point presentations of theological theory.

(I don't quite follow your comment about the "contradiction" -- feel free to clarify if you want and I'll try to respond.)

Lainey, I liked both Elements of Style and On Writing Well! but even though I have read quite a few books about the craft of writing, I think I have really learned about it almost entirely from reading great writing, writing and getting critiqued.

Doug, I love the idea of books you rebel against! that could be a whole other list (actually I think O'Really just posted one). For me, it was "Moby Dick" in high school. I refused to read it. Then I finally read it in my late 20's and was bowled over. And I read "Middlemarch" and "Mill on the Floss" and just couldn't "get" George Eliot, despite my lit leanings towards both her era and women writers.
I share many of the titles on your list. Betcha we would have been friends.
I loved this list, and share your admiration for many of them. I re-read The Scarlet Letter when I moved to Salem, and it became a whole new book for me. Also loved A Tree Grows in Brooklyn and can still remember the cover art. ee cummings inspired me to write in lower case for almost a decade.

Thanks for the terrific idea. I'm learning as much about other OSers as the letter to 17 call.
Silkstone -- I think I referred to as Silkwood somewhere (sorry!). I love this challenge. Much more interesting than just 10 favorites. Made us all think.l
I love your wonderful selection, and share your fascination with Orwell, Plath, Kaufman, Cummings, Hawthorne, Atwood, and of course the Bible.

I just want to say that this Open Call, which you so graciously hosted, has been Open Salon's most satisfying exchange of ideas in months. So many unique and fascinating literary tastes and perspectives, revealing hidden treasures.

Thank you, my dear Silkstone, for elevating the discourse to such a rich and satisfying level. It made a big difference for me.

I expect I will be reading and rereading all of the submissions!
this has been the first list that I've actually read most of them :D cool! I love your choices Silkstone :)
This is a fascinating list. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn is like oxygen in my reading life, and Jane Eyre, and cummings. My niece, who is a high school freshman was carrying around a beaten up, coverless paperback the other night and I asked what it was. It was Jane Eyre, she was reading it for (she said) "the bazillionth time," and I was deeply moved. Thanks again for making such a great open Call for all of us!
I'm greatly appreciating your comments!! I apologize that I have limited time today to respond. I'm just trying to make sure I update the link list in the Open Call post so you can all find each others' lists, then I have to go back to getting a work project done. But I'm reading and appreciating what everyone says here. Thank you so much.
Nice, varied list. Finally re-read Diary of Anne Frank several years ago, when my daughter was reading it for school, and learned it was so much complex than I had remembered. We went to Anne Frank House in Amsterdam and it was such a sobering experience. Until an American teenager wrote in the guest book, "I heart Anne Frank and Bob Marley" and I resisted the urge to smack him.
And I loved "The Scarlet Letter."
Rated. I did mine.
A great list. I love The Dispossessed. She's amazing.
This is a wonderful open call!
Thanks for the idea ! I need to go back to my list and try to explain why it was important to me. I felt a bit boxed in winnowing out the last few but it forces you to focus on the best. I went with Frost instead of cummings as a poet - kind of opposite extremes but both interesting.
Impressive, especially writing from memory without revisiting the books.

The most influential book I ever read is "Looking Glass Universe: The Emerging Science of Wholeness" by John C. Briggs and F. David Peat. It was a text book from my son's physics class when he was in college, and it rocked my world more than anything I'd read as an English lit. major in college. Led me to many books over the years on the areas where theoretical physics and mysticism seem to meet. Still one of my central passions.
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Impressive, especially writing from memory without revisiting the books.

The most influential book I ever read is "Looking Glass Universe: The Emerging Science of Wholeness" by John C. Briggs and F. David Peat. It was a text book from my son's physics class when he was in college, and it rocked my world more than anything I'd read as an English lit. major in college. Led me to many books over the years on the areas where theoretical physics and mysticism seem to meet. Still one of my central passions.
Austin. Bronte. LeGuin. All 3 smart, insightful woman authors with courage to tell it like it is (and still is!). I love how you compare characters here w/ Austen & Bronte. I think we modern chicks go for the stuff which always makes sense, like how to follow your dream, how to marry wisely. Great content in this list--it begs rereading. -R-
Your early books could be my choices. (As you know, I too wrote about Anne here.)

You started a great meme, Silk. I'm still trying to figure my books out.
My bad! In the rush of finding out what everyone has listed, I quite forgot to thank you for starting us on our journey here. I had a great time. I know I am not alone in that. Hats off to you, Silkstone! It was truly a pleasure!
I loved A Tree Grows In Brookline soooo much .It was the book that AI read as a young girl that made me fall in love with books.Im going to read it again....wonder how Ill feel about it now?