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Nelle Engoron

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MAY 12, 2010 4:59PM

My Unfashionable Life

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In response to Ann Nichols’ “What I Wore” post recalling favorite outfits.

I hate fashion. Hate it. Fashion is fascism:  Other people telling you what to wear in order to get you to spend ridiculous sums of money – and to look ridiculous in the bargain.  (Think that’s too harsh?  How often do you look at old pictures of yourself and say, “Gee, that was a stunning outfit!” vs. cringing and wondering what you were thinking?)

I’m also all about the comfort. One of my sayings is “Life is too short to wear uncomfortable clothes.” I dress for the occasion and like to look attractive enough, but I don’t like to fuss over what I wear and I want to feel comfortable, so I buy simple, easygoing clothes. I've always loved those movies set in the future where everyone wears jumpsuits, with just minor variations in color or style.  That seemed ideal to me.  No worries or fuss over what to wear and comfort galore.

I’ve never understood why women like to shop. It’s a real chasm between me and most women. I’m like a guy in my feelings about shopping. I’ve never faked an orgasm, but as a teenager, I faked enjoying shopping with my girlfriends because I felt like a mutant for not being wild about it like they were.  As an adult, I’ve dodged invitations to go shopping from women friends for so long that I can’t remember the last time I was asked. For the past 20 years, I’ve largely bought what I need online and in a local consignment store. Shopping malls feel like death to me.

And don’t get me started on shoes. I have hard-to-fit feet (in no less than four different ways) and so the comfort thing reaches its apex when it comes to my tootsies.  If it were practical, I’d go barefoot most of the time (as I did as a kid), but I settle for finding the rare pair of comfortable shoes that I proceed to wear until they fall apart.  The major boon of working from home has been that I live in a pair of sheepskin slippers.

I say all that and yet I have a closet full of clothes, and have spent more hours and dollars of my life on them than I ‘d like to admit. Of course, it’s nice to feel you look attractive, and there’s part of me that’s drawn to the decorative aspect of clothing. For me, it comes out largely in accessories, especially scarves and earrings, of which I think a woman can never have too many.  (The only way I can understand how many women feel about shoes is considering how I feel about scarves and earrings.)  Honestly, I could be happy going the Georgia O’Keeffe route and adopting a black kimono for my daily garb…as long as I could add those two accessories. (I’d have to do that in the futuristic jumpsuit world, too.)

My feelings about clothes have been consistent my entire life.  As a kid, I loved being in comfy clothes that allowed me to climb trees, ride my bike and play games.  Dressing up was a necessary evil for school and church.  (I was a bit like Scout in "To Kill a Mockingbird.") The only wardrobe item of my childhood that I have a truly warm feeling about is a pair of shoes that I’m wearing in an Easter Sunday photo I still have. Made with patches of soft leather in varied pastel colors, they were cool-looking but I can also feel the comfort just looking at them.

 

2nd grade
2nd grade.  Mom didn't do so bad dressing me, eh?

 
Up through grade school, my mother told me what to wear and I was fine with that when we lived on the East Coast, where dresses were required.  She even let the sunshine in a bit, buying me a bright orange pleather jumper in 1968 that I proudly wore with matching orange tights.  But just before 6th grade, we moved to Southern California, and I had a long bruising fight with my mother to be allowed to wear pants to school, while enduring ridicule for looking like Rebeccca of Sunnybrook Farm in a sea of surfer dudes and chicks.  The first time my mother broke her, “No daughter of mine will wear pants to school!” rule, I came dressed in houndstooth trousers and a wool turtleneck, which as you can imagine barely made a dent in the teasing.  However, by junior high, my mother had capitulated and I was dressing myself in cords, Hang Ten t-shirts and moccasins like everybody else.

 

1973
It's the early 70's, so the colors are brown and orange, but my future fashion template is beginning to emerge....


By high school, the Renaissance hippie look was in full flower, and girls often floated around in long dresses. Out on a reluctant shopping trip with a girlfriend, I found one that made me happy in a way few articles of clothing ever have.  Made of summery-light fabric of red cotton with sprigs of white flowers and topped by a plunging neckline with a lacy white collar that flattered my nearly invisible bosom, it was my “Scarlett O’Hara” dress, and I felt like a Southern belle every time I wore it.

In college, a small used clothing store near campus opened my suburban mall kid’s eyes to secondhand shopping.  I first focused on the military surplus, becoming addicted to khaki pants, fatigues, and those dark blue wool sailor pants with all the buttons (which a guy who wanted to get into them once told me were quite intimidating).  But not long before graduation, I started looking at the vintage silk blouses the shop sold, and bought one that I found useful as I started my working life in glamorous San Francisco, where I was supposed to look professional on a secretary’s tiny salary. 

The solution presented itself when I found a vintage shop in Berkeley that sold not only silk blouses but cashmere sweaters and wool suit jackets from the 30’s, 40’s and 50’s for as little as $4 (I never paid more than $9).  I spent many happy years pairing classic skirts with my vintage finds, thus minimizing the hideous and boring "Dress for Success” suits of the era that I had to buy.  I think that was the closest I ever came to being stylish (as opposed to fashionable) -- many people actually told me how much they admired my personal style while I suppressed the urge to confess that a large part of my fashion strategy was budgetary.  Some saw past my facade of creative dressing, though, as when I told a co-worker that I'd gladly wear a uniform to work and she drily responded with a near-wink, "But don't you already?"

 

carmel

 Wearing one of those vintage jackets, one of the few good perms I ever had and my all-time favorite sunglasses, sadly lost in a restaurant later.

 

Work wardrobe was one thing, but post-college dating in the city meant I had to have something to wear besides the comfortable threads I had for hanging out with friends.  Thin as I was at the time, for dating clothes, I became obsessed with minimizing the little muffin-top (as we call it now) that I’d inherited from my mother. High-waisted flat front pants and skirts were the ticket, and most of my shopping energy went into finding them -- in black, of course, which is not only the most slenderizing color but also goes with everything, is always in style and never shows the dirt.  

It was then that “black bottom, colorful top” became my fashion template – one that I still live by today, in my sartorial laziness.  My simple taste means that little of what I’ve worn has been memorable, even though there were favorites that I wore to death:  Anything in emerald green, my favorite color, especially if made of velvet or velour. (But also those emerald green cords that I paired with a bohemian black turtleneck in college.)  A wrap-around Indian print skirt always worn with a leotard – an emblematic outfit of the 70’s.  A denim mini-skirt I wore on dates 20 years and pounds ago, paired with low motorcycle style boots.  Some vintage satin lingerie that made me feel like Veronica Lake.  A gorgeous chocolate brown vintage cashmere sweater that I carelessly shrank in the wash. A lovely mulberry-colored wool sweater that met the same fate.  (Did I mention that I hate dry cleaning as well as fashion?)  Some smartly tailored vintage jackets that I no longer wear but can’t bear to discard. A pair of high-top red sneakers from Smith & Hawken.

These days, when the occasion calls for it, I pull some nice clothes out of my closet and fix myself up, but most of the time my unfashionable life continues, as would be proven were I to snap a picture of myself right now, sitting here writing while dressed in my uniform:  a pair of black jeans and an emerald green shirt.

 

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silk,

I muchly identify with this. shopping for clothes is one of the main fetishes of my look-obsessed female relatives...I had to escape to san francisco to a city where sartorial choices are looked at with less judgement and more generosity than many places I've lived...

I've always spent more money on books than clothing or shoes. I don't suspect that this will ever change.
ps I feel this way, although I also found myself fascinated by the recent bill cunningham documentary, and I loved this quote by cunningham,

“fashion is the armor to survive the reality of everyday life.”

if you get the chance, you might enjoy the film. I also like it when he says he eats with his eyes.

=)
The novel I'm serialising here...my heroine has a closet the size of an AmTrak Club Car...divided among at least ten "looks".
:)
As to reality, I an grateful every day that my wife, a visual artist, has ideas abt clothes similar to yours.
I loved your history and all the photos! What an interesting way to introspection. Very revealing. I too abhor fashion but oddly enough enjoy it in Second Life with my avatar. My mother loves to shop and was so excited today to bring out her new white purse and see all the other old ladies with white on. Some sort of secret sect that knows what to wear when and I dont want to be a member. I loved your orange and brown outfit with the long hair. thank you for a great post.
Rated, rated, rated, just for the photos! Gosh, you're just adorable!

I share many of your feelings about shopping for clothes, and one of my most longstanding fashion rules is: Never wear more than two colors at once, and make sure one of them is black. I see you stole that one from me. ;-)
I just love this even though I think of myself as pretty fashionable. Well, Ok, I used to be. I do love clothes and shoes. This is a wonderful post and I really like the pictures!
No picture of the purple hot pants and yellow bib? I clicked on this with such high hopes for that.

You look almost exactly as I have always pictured you, and yes, in 1974 we had the same hair. Rated for your no nonsense fashion flair.
Love it.

I hate to shop as well, yet like clothes.

And I never will understand the appeal of shoes that hurt.
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For a mere $200 (shipping included), she can put you in some Uggs, True Religion jeans, Ed Hardy T, Oakley sunglasses, and a new era cap.
So well done, Silk and the photos were illustrative.
Boy do I identify with this. My uniform has become jeans, a tee or shell and a loose jacket. Preferably black pants. And comfy flats. I can pull myself together if necessary, but hate to shop and prefer not being noticed --understated to the max. I wish there were uniforms with scarves and jewelry, and I would wear black jumpsuits all the time if it weren't so hard to pee.
Dolores, ah yes, money is better spent on books. Or going out to eat or see performances. I'm truly astounded by how much money a lot of women spend on clothes. I hadn't heard of the documentary you mention - sounds intriguing. You know, I didn't include this in my post, but I love looking at historical collections of clothing and I take special notice of costuming in movies, on stage, etc. It's transferring that to everyday life that doesn't work for me. I guess it's about seeing fashion as costume, and clothing as practical, everyday stuff.

Jonathan, most artists I've known (of both genders) dress in interesting, idiosyncratic ways but aren't into "fashion" at all. They think for themselves and dress accordingly, and usually in a visually interesting and attractive manner. I admire them for that.

Zanelle, thanks! I used to love to dress up my Barbie doll, so I get the Second Life thing. When it's playful, it's fun. But on my own body doesn't feel that way -- although I get that it does for many women, which is why they enjoy fashion.

Jeanette, thanks and ha! That's a great line and yes, I'm stealing it since I almost always have black on, too. (I do wear lighter color pants in summer sometimes.) The funny thing about the pix is that I just went with the ones I had handy on my computer, and there weren't many of these old ones (since they've had to be scanned in). If I'd dug up the old photos from boxes in the basement, there would be other treasures... and horrors.

Joan, I'm glad to hear that even a fashion-lover enjoyed this!

Suzanne, you know, I feel like I have a pic of that outfit somewhere but I think it's really just that it's burned indelibly into my brain. And as I said above, I was lazy and just used some pix I had handy which fortunately worked for this piece. I had that hair from about 1972 to 1979 when I cut it to my shoulders and got my first tragic perm....
Some folks slipped in while I was typing that long comment....

Leeandra, me neither. We were in SF this past weekend to see a play and I was astounded at the footwear I observed on a lot of the younger women. I truly don't know how they walk on such high heels. I was good up to about 2 inch heels in my 20's and then gave up and went to flats and have never looked back.

Jane, not true! I have a million pix of me looking shlumpy which I'm not posting here, trust me.

Nick, I almost headed to Manage Comments to delete yours before I saw it was from you. heh.

Lea, that sounds like a great "uniform" and very close to mine. As well as comfort, I think if you find something that's flattering, it makes sense to keep wearing it. When I do, I buy multiple copies of the same thing (sometimes in different colors) and I never regret it. And I've noticed that most of the true style icons find certain types of garments that work for them and keep wearing them with minor variations. (You're right about the jumpsuit, though, and I have to pee often, so I guess that's a no-go. Uh, no pun intended.)
Man, I wonder if it's something in the air out there. This sounds like the fashion history of a good friend who lives in Berkeley. I'm sure she shops at that vintage shop, if it's still around.
Nice. I'm going to start checking out all the second hand stores on the mainland.
Hey! Congratulations! You're on the cover! Pix and all! Bet you're really glad now that you couldn't find the hot pant picture!
There are some things that never go out of style. Stick with those. Some things will come and go, but some things never go out of style. Jeans and a t-shirt have been in style since James Dean wore them in the 1950s and they'll be in style in 2050. The design on the shirts may change, and the color of the jeans may change, but they still look good.

That's what you want to wear. Polyester suits? Super wide or super skinny ties? Those will come and go, but if you stick with the classics you'll be fine.
"Uniforms" work for me for daily life...But I get my Georgia O'Keefe on when asked to dress up. Kind of Middle Earth/Asian with a smattering of Donna Karan depending. We have a lot in common, you and I.
Makes sense to me-another non-shopper.
Oh-ho that orange/brown combo! What was going ON in the 70's?? But you look smashing regardless. And that perm is strangely attractive. As for the rest? Sadly I cannot relate. I LOVE buying/wearing clothes. Sigh.
Ab fab post. I have a feeling many of us dress in similar ways. I have a separate but equal template for any occasion, always incorporating comfort first which = fit and view from behind (so to speak).

Here's my best tip: when I find shoes, pants & jeans, undies & bras, special top or even a blazer I Really like, I buy at least 2, often more. Have 6 prs of my fave sneaks and jeans, never out of style, or stock. Don't have to go shopping either. (Good think I didn't think of this in the 80's... blech, disco gear).
It's great to see these pictures of you. Thanks for sharing them.
Abra, the vintage place changed names eons ago and I think has devolved badly if it's even still open -- I last went in there many years ago and headed right back out again. Of course, these days "vintage" = 1980's fashions! Which isn't what I'm looking for (been there, done that). I still love the 30's and 40's stuff - the latter being my fave decade for clothing styles. Unfortunately, vintage clothes got popular about 15 years ago and have skyrocketed in price. I still can't believe how cheap they once were for being so well-made and of great materials. I was lucky to get'em then.

Deborah, what, nothing in the islands?? I'd love some Hawaiian vintage!

Suzanne, no kidding! That was a near miss - whew.

Tony, I completely agree. And I abhor synthetics -- I want to tear them off my body. I put on polyester and I start to sweat and feel ill. I did wear it a bit in the 70's (it was practically required by law) but soon gave it up....

Lin, a kimono never goes out of style! And Georgia was beyond cool. I'm planning on being an eccentric old woman who goes around in something like that, too.

Zoe, yeah, that orange and brown hurts my eyes now. And the funny thing is, a few years later, I was forced to wear those exact colors (in polyester no less) while working at Jack in the Box...and HATED it!

Sally, thanks!! And I think I said the same thing somewhere in comments....I too have learned to buy multiple copies of clothing that really works for me. And I never regret it. I only regret not doing it when something I really like wears out and I can't replace it, which happens all too often as the @#$! manufacturers want to change things all the time to keep you buying...!
Great post and I, too, rarely shop. How to I have clothes? My daughter loves to look good and when I shop with her I pick up a few things.

But what is truly a syncronicity is that just today I was thinking of my various non-dress up ways. In high school, this in the late 50's I wore black everyday. In college in NYC I did care, o, did I and wore miniskirts and always dangling earrings and it was o such hard work. At 29 precisely on a bus in Switzerland I knew all of a sudden that I no longer cared. I wore jeans, all sorts a black top. That lasted a long time. I now have 6 short simple cotton black skirts and loads of tights, for tops I am partial to white with black tank tops. I think that's all I've worn for the last two years.

For MANY years I felt this disinclination to "dress up" was some kind of disability. Then I got it: lots of bracelets, scarves and the rest didn't matter. I never go to malls; I rarely go to stores, and my motto is: If an outfit works, keep it going. Comfort is essential. Great post. I might not have written one as good as this, but in terms of sentiment, we are close to identical. (Ps: I had one earlobe closed for medical reasons. I could have it opened now but I stick with one long earring. I care about looking good but I don't care enough. RRRR

PS: That is one great perm and I LOVE thse nsunglasses. Sunglasses are my weakness, I wear light blue ones that I can see fine in even at night. This obviates any need for eye-makeup.
I wanted to see the hot pants, too, but I'm very satisfied in every other way. We must be about the same age - I also spent the early 70s in Hang Ten shirts (with the footprints) and cords, always bell bottoms. We also share a modern-day uniform; I have probably twenty black skirts and five pairs of black pants, and colored tops. Well, and I have lots of "old hippie" skirts for summer because pants are too hot, and I am not shorts-friendly from hip to knee.

I really, really envy you the red dress. It sounds like my idea of heaven, maybe even now. Thanks for playing; it seems to have paid off. :)
Your post made me smile. I love to shop....but it is the fantasy that makes it fun ...the perfect vintage dress that I will wear to some imagined black tie event.....and the perfect pants that will make me look 10 pounds thinner..the perfect shoes that I will allow me to walk without pain on NYC pavement. In reality I just wear same comfy clothes and sneakers everyday but I love to dream.
Enjoyed this a lot. I alway considered myself some very good dresser but pictures prove me wrong. What was with that brown craze in the seventies? My mother did my room up in Rust. I still feel affected by that.
Anyhow, another good looking OSer. You should send your picture to TME- Just a gallery of eye candy over there.
Happy to see Ann's fab post inspired others, including this one. As usual, this was a delight, Silkstone. I just have two words for you: go barefoot.
Like Zanelle I play with online barbies ;) I suppose that makes up for having 10 pairs of black sweatpants in reality.
I like your sense of style!
ahhh,

I have a closet full of scarves and shoes ;0)
This is pure entertainment--I loved traveling through the decades with you and your outfits. I'm all about comfort too. It's Uggs in the winter and flip flops in the summer. I've given up trying to add a few inches to myself with shoes that kill my feet.
I love how many women there are here who also hate to shop and would prefer to dress as I prefer to dress - down.
Rated just for the 80's photo. Awesome.........v laurie anderson esque.
I'm with you on this. After an early career in banking, the second half of my professional life has been defined by my avoidance of positions that require me to wear pantyhose.
I love clothes - love them - but I loathe shopping. Is that a sign of self loathing or something?! Any way...I loved this post. Loved it. And you!
I have always loved fashion...of my own making. But, now, I hate to shop. Thank god for online shopping.

Your photos are wonderful!
I still wear orange and brown. It goes with my freckles. Since I moved to the Pacific NW I have finally given in to wearing jeans. I used to always wear dresses, I just liked them. My uniform is good jewelry combined with simple classic stuff. Jewelry can nicely distract from an otherwise nondescript but comfortable outfit.
Couldn't agree more. I have hated shopping since before my grandmother dragged me into department stores to announce to anyone who would listen that I was too fat! That aside, I have just migrated from SoCal to NJ and have brought my SoCal wardrobe with me -- and I like it just fine. And I'm there on used clothing. Thanks for this -- my sentiments exactly.
Loved the trip through time via your outfits. I love shopping, but really only at vintage or consignment shops, or for things not-clothes. Department stores just depress me now - too much, too expensive and too the same. And I remember those military pants with the buttons - I had shorts that I think came from the Navy; my first husband hated them!
Hells, thanks!

Wendy, they were very 80's in a way (teal flecks) but I still mourn losing those sunglasses as I've never found any as good. As for the perm, the key is that it was growing out so only enough was left to give my otherwise flat hair some body. Just as someone snapped that pic, the wind came up behind me and so I got a perfect fluff-up for the camera!

Ann, I owe it all to you! I've had some version of this post in my head for a long time but wouldn't have gotten it written yesterday without your post to inspire me.

Snarky, I think the appeal of shopping (for those who like it) is a lot about fantasy. I've also heard avid shoppers say that it gives them a high that wears off once they get home with stuff.

Fernsy, thanks! (but what's "TME"??) Yes, those 70's colors were deadly. When we've looked at houses to buy, it's dead easy to tell which have 70's era kitchens and bathrooms because of the colors.

Stellaa, thanks! And yes, I'd much rather wear memorable words than clothes.

Kathy, I do go barefoot as much as I can (one reason I adore Hawaii). Most of the year it's too chilly here in Nor Cal, though, to do so -- hence the sheepskin booties.

Julie, thanks! I've read about those sites online. Reminds me of the paperdolls we had as kids.

Whoopdedoo, so we're half-sisters only, then?

Karin, Uggs tempt me since they're clearly just an outdoor version of my booties. But the price puts me off.

Nerd, I guess not so surprising with a bunch of women writers?

Sweet Peony, I once read a funny anecdote Anderson told of walking in NYC at the height of her fame only to overhear some pedestrians who had just passed her on the sidewalk sniff, "Huh. Another Laurie Anderson clone!" To me, that's the perfect Laurie Anderson story.

Giga, I did my time in pantyhose prison. 15 years in business. I put it on verrry reluctantly these days -- only for special occasions.

Sandra, thanks!! And I'm glad to see you back here at OS! I know other people who feel as you do - like clothes but hate shopping. That actually makes sense to me.

Sparking, thanks! There were so many bad hairstyle pix I could have posted, but that's another story of my life....

Susanne, nothing wrong with orange and brown. I do still wear some brown, but I sort of OD'd on it in the 70's, so not too much. Orange doesn't flatter my pale, pinky complexion. It looks great on a lot of people. Agree about jewelry and other accessories. They add a lot to how you look.

Jfern, I could do a whole post on used clothing shopping. I have gotten many wonderful bargains. It gives a lot of people the willies, but not me.

Blue, department stores not only depress me, I get "mallhead" (from all the chemicals outgassing from the merchandise). Also, to me they are the strangest sort of artificial atmosphere, with incredibly sensory overstimulation. I guess that's what some people like, though.
We're sartorial sisters. Except for jumpsuits - I don't like the bother of undressing to the upper thigh every time I want to sit down in the bathroom. As for shoes, comfy always trumps style, although I wore medium heels in college and for a decade or so after. I'm tall and in college had a "short-boy outfit" of flats and a circular skirt that looked good with flats. As for scarves and earrings, to me they're a language in which we express ourselves.

You look terrific in all the pix. I guess it's true that sometimes the woman makes the clothes.
You are a woman of style, not a victim of trends. I loved this walk through your mind and closet. I too have a closet full of vintage jackets that I rarely wear, but refuse to let go. When we're 70, let's pool them for movie rentals and retire in the styles to which we have become comfortably accustomed :)
This was as much fun as a walk through my own closet...well, maybe not, but I really enjoyed the trip with you.

I find the older I get the less I care about fashion, or maybe it is that I am no longer living with a person who cared more about fashion than me. Give me jeans, ballet flats and a cashmere sweater these days...or a t-shirt with my own character drawn on.

R for your style in writing and dressing!
Nelle, Another great post, which I'm late seeing.

I thought the hate-to-shop thing was just me. I also hate getting dressed. People complement my silk and velvet clothes, not realizing that everything is as close to pajamas as I can find. And shoes...I'm awed to hear you have 4 ways they don't fit.

The Dickens Fair comes to S.F. once a year. It's cheesy (sp?) overpriced but filled with velvet clothes. Every year I say I won't go back but then the reds, greens, rich black velvets call, and I'm back for my once-a-year shopping.

Lorrie :)