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although I seriously doubt any of my relatives have ever even heard of Salon.com, I'm keeping my name out of this. I'd really like to be able to be brutally honest without fear of reprisals. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ I'm crazy about history, music, art, the peace movement, colors, photography (black & white), genealogy, Charles Dickens, Elmer Kelton, McMurtry, Bob Dylan, Patty Griffin, Larry Winters (kpft.org) and my kids & grandsons (not necessarily in that order). ========================== Lived in Texas all my life. 5th Generation. Been married lots of times. Have yet to find a partner. Spent the first 30+ years getting past myself. Now I'm a reasonably well-adjusted silvery-haired old hippie and starting to feel like I'm only getting started. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ And I love it here. Nice to have an intellectual conversation every evening. The community here is at first too mushy to believe, but now that I've been here awhile, I get it. Can we have a coffee? Maybe somewhere in the central part of the country?

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NOVEMBER 2, 2009 11:17PM

Weird Reactions When Someone Dies

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Sunday I had a visit from the husband of the woman with leukemia (they were going to stay with me while she recovered from bone marrow transplant surgery, but she took a turn for the worse).  He called but I didn't answer the phone so he drove over anyway.   (Hint, hint, buddy, when someone doesn't answer your calls, that means they don't want to talk to you.)

  He came in and presented me with a book.  It's a collection of his and his wife's stories and poems.  He talked.  And talked.  He talked about how he met his first wife.  How he met his second wife before he split with the first.  How he met _____ while he was still  married to the 2nd.  Then he started telling me how he wasn't sure he could get married again after this. 

She is dying, but she's not dead yet.  And he's already ruminating his chances of remarriage.   I can't remember his exact words, maybe it was his body language or other cues from his eyes, but I gotta tell you -- I was getting creeped out by the time he left (one and a half hours of listening to this man drone on and on about every fucking detail of his entire life).  I honestly thought he was trying to impress me -- you know, like coming on to me.

It's been my experience that when a man tells people all the time about how much he loves his wife, it's because he really only loves himself but wants to make women think he's some kind of really sweet guy.  (Been there -- husband #4).   And when a man talks about the books he's written in terms of the number of words, well . . . that's just weird.

 Oh, and the book?  He prints it out on his laser printer and has it bound at Kinko's or something.  But he IS a writer.  And his books are bound -- technically published.  So, that just makes him really special, doesn't it?  Husband #4 had cds, too.  Of course, he only sold them to relatives and drunks at gigs who thought he was just great, man, just great.

So you tell me -- read this email from him and tell me what you think it means:

 (He's talking about having a conversation with a nurse)

      I told her about the vision which I had early Sunday morning at 2:30.  ______ was in room 23, 8 inch letters above patio doors, the end of each ICU room was glass.  What I saw was light ten times brighter than daylight shining from her room.  I knew that her angel or maybe more than one angel were taking her spirit up from her body.  I told this to everyone I met on  Sunday.  Today the RN mentioned that what I had said about the dream was confirmed by the breathing machine which indicated that at that time she lost the ability to breath on her own.  In other words she was brain dead.

Today I also met with various people over a period of an hour and a half.  I talked to an MD by phone and gave him permission to disconnect life supports.  He called the RN back and she wrote an order for "comfort care" only.  The dialysis machine was turned off at 2:45pm.  Then one by one the 20 odd IV bags were disconnected until only one remained.  I held her hand and watched as the monitor showed her pulse slowly go from 64 beats per minute to 32 beats per minute.  Then the monitor read 0.  I also noticed her breathing go from normal, because of the machine which was breathing for her, to her not breathing at all.  She died at 3:33pm.  Did you know that your name, Sarah, means "princess of God?"

 

Did you know that your name, Sarah, means "princess of God?"

Are you kidding me?  Not even a new paragraph!  Just swung right into it -- oh by the way, you're a princess of God.

He's not aware of the fact that I do not believe in God, and yes, I fucking well knew it meant that except that in Hebrew is spelled Sarai.

Another reason why I will never be in another relationship.  I still attract these totally self-absorbed egomaniacal nutjobs.  It's a wonder Gordon hasn't come on to me.  (or Dr. Amy)

And I'm sorry his wife died.  I'm glad he was there holding her hand.  I really think she died a few days ago, though.



 

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I'd be very unhappy about how her death was all about him. That can't be good. Don't answer the phone or the door for awhile. That might work.
Yeah, I think I"m going to hang a blanket over my glass front door.
Wow. A real life megalomaniac. You got yourself a real find there, Sarai.

Seriously, this man has too many issues to list. But then, you already picked up on that. However, that does not mean you can't be in another relationship. It just means you need to keep a certain standard in mind!
First!! What a creepy story, illustrating once again, that (wo)man's best friend is a dog or a cat. Or a Gekko. Or even guppies.

Do we think it's odd that his wives keep dying??? Or do I just watch too many CSI-type programs?

You have more patience than I -- he would have been out the door with a frozen Lean Cuisine in his hand and my condolences about 10 minutes after he started talking.
mypsyche: thanks for saying that. I have noticed lately a lot of talk about men, marriage, relationships and I was starting to wonder if maybe I wasn't headed in that direction (you know, the way you become aware of something and then it happens)

barkinglot: well since he's a friend of my mother's, I decided not to toss him out the door, but I did tell her earlier today (before the email) that I thought he was already scoping out his next wife. She thought I was crazy, of course.
Crap. I'm just glad she's well clear of HIM . . . and that you have the good sense to listen to your gut.
People like that need to be turned in and evaluated by a psychotherapist...gives me the shivers
This is the sorriest ass power move/come on I have ever heard. This guy is a cold stone fuck nut. He obviously mistook you for Sarah Palin.

Rated.
owl: I told you Skeleton Woman told me how to do that, right?

Placebo: ah, that's nothing. YOu should try being married to one, or four of them.
Thot: LOL -- could be. I can't even stand to listen to this man talk. It was really getting on my nerves to hear him.
It sounds like one of my sister in laws when her husband died. During his sickness all we heard was who's going to take care of me?
If he dies what will I do?

All she saw in him was a paycheck.

At the funeral everyone of his "friends" asked me who was getting his computers and shouldn't it be them.

No people aren't right when someone is dying but most do better than some. Let his form of morning pass through him and hope he moves on and away. Men are brought up to have contingency plans, his wondering about a new relationship might just be a reaction to that. People raised before the 70s were taught that a person that isn't married is a failure anther possible reaction that might not be an issue if it weren't for the current stress.

I'll bet the truth is he wanted to be comforted and didn't know of a way to achieve it. It's a tough time for both of you. Get some space and tell him clearly, blast through his fog, that you need it.
What creepy parasite. I wouldn't let him in the door. Out damn spot.
I agrree never say never when it comes to relationships. As far as the story it sounds like all he's after is the money. Maybe we can call him Mr. blackwidow.
Sigh. I got nothin' to add that hasn't already been said. Perhaps he was dazzled by your radiant crown of jewels.
Let's take it down to the core - what an a*hole. Creepy, sociopathic, and in a way, pathetic. Keep them doors locked.
ewww, that is truly creepy. Maybe he needs professional help?
I agree lock the doors, men who are all about them even in death of a spouse are true losers in life. I should know I am pretty sure I am married to one. Not as bad as this one, I don't think, but run honey run! Tell him you like women or dogs or something and scare him on to the next unfortunate lady! At least he held her hand and that counts until he tells the world what a wonderful man he is cause he did and then ran to the next someone he could find to take care of him..... geez I sound bitter!
I'm sure it was the vision of you in that tiara that he couldn't resist!

Creep.

Sorry for his wife and hope that light took her to a more peaceful place.
What a huge CREEPASAURUS!
rated:)
Run, run like your ass is on fire ....

Ohhhhhh there is just no adequate adjective for him. Seriously.
He made it all about him...... definitely coming on to you! Run awaaaaaaaaay!!
I think he sounds sweet, caring, and spiritual. Today's opposite day, right?
People say very stupid things in the first few weeks of grieving. Their souls are rent asunder and their reason is compromised. Give the guy some breathing room!
Sarah is harass spelled backwards as spoken by snakes.
Been here. Read. Rated.. What can I say?
I'm so relieved to read all these comments confirming that I'm not just paranoid. It's hard to rationalize gut feelings -- but they are usually spot on.

Daniel -- that made me laugh.

I don't know what this guy's deal is, but whether he's out of his mind with grief or not -- I always seem to attract weirdos. I think it's because I'm open-minded and caring enough to listen and not interrupt and tell a person what they need to do, or need to think -- it's misconstrued (especially by people who think the universe really does existing just for them).

At least nowadays I don't have any wool hanging down in my eyes.
Definitely creepy. Maybe he's one of those people that just can't live without someone in their life. Guess he'll find out real fast it won't be you! Rated.
It's not your imagination. He IS scoping out a new wife. I've found that men like that seem to want women to think they cannot live without them rather than the other way around. He's a parasite and his hosts seem to be dying off. I'd stay away from him.

This was an excellent post. Thank you for sharing it.
This man was clearly unhinged. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and suppose it was from grief.
Freakin' unbelievable! Sheesh!
i have no idea how anybody can have four husbands or wives whether they live or die. i had one. that's that.
Blue: he's definitely one of those guys who needs a woman (to feed his ego & his stomach)

Ren Lady: thanks so much

Mark PRitchard: damn. I've been mulling over your comment for a day now and I'm sorry to say, there's a nugget of truth there. It's still this guy's inherent character to have a female fawning over him, but you're right, he's not thinking right. THanks.

Unbreakable: yeah.

Ben Sen: I've already done the husband thing.
What a creep! No even a new paragraph?!
Nicely done, Sarah!
Congrats on the EP!