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OCTOBER 9, 2009 11:16AM

An anti-war, anti-nuke, Obama supporter says 'WTF?'

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I can't been the only person in the country who woke to the announcement from the Norwegian Nobel Peace Prize Committee this morning and thought, "What the fuck? Am I dreaming?"

 

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In fact, I'm willing to wager Barack Obama himself had a similar response when he received the call.  "Really?"   The next thought might have been, "Is there any way I can politely decline?"

It is an open question whether the award will aid in Obama's agenda items the Committee highlighted as their reasons for the award.  And it's clear this is an aspirational award.  Domestically, I don't see how it helps Obama's agenda.  All the award does is highlight to the American people the fact that Obama has still a lot to do.

The Nobel Peace Prize serves an  important function by highlighting and supporting work making the world better, but they don't have a perfect track record.  The committee often takes a risk with people and entities who may gone on to do things that aren't so commendable.  (They've also awarded people who have done non-commendable things in the past but then see the light to make peace, like F.W. de Klerk .)

But Obama?  Really?  What has he done besides being elected and making some important promises?

Let's not lose sight of why Obama's approach and aspirations are potentially world changing.  The committee made some valid points, writing:

"Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened."

The members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee must have been seriously worried about the long-term effacacy of the U.N. and international agreements due to the outright hostility from the preivious American president's administration.  They must also think that Obama has generated a huge turnaround.  If so, they are naive.  One just has to look at Congress and likely future presidential candidates to see that Obama may be an American blip when it comes to respect for multilateralism and the rule of international law. Maybe Obama is fostering long-term change, but it's iffy to say at this time.

The Committee also mentions the climatic challenges and strengthening of democracy and human rights.  While Obama's stated approach on these fronts is more encouraging that his predecessors, I'm scratching my head to think of examples that Obama has had a real impact yet on climate change, democracy or human rights.  If he does, that'd be great!  I'm still waiting.

The one aspiration that almost justifies Nobel Peace Prize consideration is on the nuclear weapons front.  Obama's brave and prominent stance to work towards a world free of nuclear weapons is the most likely to provide real results for the betterment of our world.  Already, Obama has resurrected the dialog with Russia to get back on track on nuclear arms reductions.  This is an impressive accomplishment after eight years of the Bush administration and Putin and company doing everything they can to antagonize each other and scrap previous agreements.

Obama has also recognized the problem of nuclear proliferation and has taken more quiet steps to help secure nuclear devices in former Soviet republics by promising additional U.S. support.

The impact of the American president taking the prominent position that nuclear weapons are dangerous and unnecessary in order to be a Superpower  cannot be overstated.  While this is unlikely to immediately persuade Iran and North Korea to turn back the clock on their nuclear ambitions, one can imagine that we might be in a very different world if an American president took this position twenty years ago.

While the United States continuous to refine its abilities to deliver nuclear warheads and stop incoming warheads, it has seriously lacked moral authority to persuade other countries to refrain from developing or expanding their nuclear weapon capabilities.  While the Pentagon was working to have "bunker buster" mini-nukes in the last decade, one can see why many regional powers, both friends and foes, aspired to join the nuclear family and play catch up to the United States.

Still, why the rush?  Can't one give Obama a couple years to get some fulfilled promises under his belt?  I'm sure there are some other worthy nominees for the Peace Prize.

Perhaps I'm old fashioned.  I'm the type of person who objects to bridges, schools, airports being named after people still alive, but I'm not advocating the Norwegian Nobel Committee wait until people are dead or near dead to award prizes.  It's a little exciting to see the Committee taking risks to award people in the midst of accomplishing their worthy goals in order to highlight contemporary problems.  Another year couldn't have hurt, could it?

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The committee hopes this might save their countries from democracy. Hate to break it to them, but if the American Empire decides they have something we want, their giving a peace prize to a war criminal won't make any difference.
Skeptic, I agree, is the promise of peace and committing to do what we should be doing, diplomacy enough?
I agree. It's all very strange, especially with the deadline for the nominations being mere days into his presidency. Let's hope he lives up to this.
Another voice in the chorus here. I agree with you completely. One good thing is that now he'll feel pressure to behave in accordance with the aspirations of the Nobel Committee. That alone may be enough incentive for him to work toward peace.
Yeah, I just don't get it. Though I did vote for the guy, I'm not the biggest Obama fan right now. This is a perfect example of 'jumping the gun.' Let's see how he actually executes all of his plans.

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It would appear that by recognizing Obama, the selection committee is attempting to influence American foreign policy. What better hedge against future aggression than awarding a peace prize to the leader of the imperialist nation.

Then again, he certainly has talked the talk.
Husband just told me a German analyst said : " Maybe he got it because he made peace with Hillary."
"The members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee must have been seriously worried about the long-term effacacy of the U.N. and international agreements due to the outright hostility from the preivious American president's administration. They must also think that Obama has generated a huge turnaround. If so, they are naive."

I can confirm the last point when it comes to the Committee Chairman, Torbjørn Jagland. The man is a bumbling idiot. But somehow, he keeps failing upward. He'll be ruining the European Council in his next job.
Obama seems to recognize the absurdity and is making the most of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7bHkH779qg&
Why that Obama, he's such a terrible person for preventing the expansion of bush's Middle East war, preventing a war with North Korea and putting an end to bush's efforts to restart the Cold War with Russia. Yeah, why are they awarding such a horrible person a "peace" prize? I say it's time for mindless bitching once again.
i dont feel that obama has promised peace. i have heard nothing of substance from him since he was elected. its all been double speak, all been "hear what i am saying but pay no attention to my hands."
This statement of yours explains it:

"Let's not lose sight of why Obama's approach and aspirations are potentially world changing. "

The Nobel committee is trying to pressure Obama to live up to his campaign promises, and the potential of his Administration to change the disastrous policies of his predecessor. In effect, they are saying, "You've been elected. You talk a good game. You have changed the dialogue to make possible world-changing events possible. Now do it"
As I mentioned in another post on this subject, I don't even think Obama's selection is justified on the notion of potential for peace, given his utter inability to achieve the bipartisanship he campaigned so heavily upon. Although I mostly blame obstructionist Republicans, Obama should still be held accountable for this failure.
Obama has talked the walk but he has not walked the talk yet. The Nobel Peace Prize has just been completely invalidated. It goes to show how much politics are entrenched in the world today.

People around the world put their lives on the line and have attained change. Obama gets the prize, just for talking about change, and now uses it for his agenda to forge ahead. The Prize Committee says it is for his world views; meanwhile our own country is splitting apart. I would not mind if he had actually done something.
As far as I am concerned The Nobel Peace Prize has lost its validity. This is a sad day.
It's all part of a greater pattern, one that if seen would evoke desperation and madness. It is a blessing that you do not know the reasons for such things. Peace is not found in the truth, but in the masking of it.