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APRIL 9, 2009 2:21PM

CNBC Now Has Expertise in High Seas Piracy

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Michelle Caruso-Cabrera is working hard to reaffirm CNBC's no-nothing bluster bona fides.  Within the last hour (11am PST) , Michelle (high seas piracy expert that she is) dressed down a shipping industry representative for paying off Somali pirates in exchange for their crews.  

4-9-2009 10-57-09 AM 

In her bio she asserts that she is an advocate for free markets and her biggest thrill was interviewing Milton Friedman.  She's advised to stick to those pursuits.   CNBC has established that it has very little unique expertise when it comes to matters financial or economic, and we're sure it has even little to none when it comes to foreign policy.  That, however, doesn't stop these blow hards from commenting with impressive arrogance on topics they are only sporadically familiar with such as high seas piracy.  

Caruso-Cabrera asserted (along with her cohosts) that piracy was a simple problelm of companies paying off ransoms and that if they took a hard stand, this would disappear.  In addition, she asserted (strongly we might add) that the problem should be treated as a terrorist threat.  Both of these assertions are laughable.  First, the high seas pirates get much of their enrichment through acquisition of the ship and cargo.  Second, stronger reaction versus ransom payments will likely lead to more violent actions by the Somali pirates which will start to behave more like their Asian kin who kill all crew members immediately to avoid leaving witnesses.  Third, treating priacy as terrorism only cheapens efforts agaisnt terrorism.  Piracy is a commercial enterprise similar to the mob.  There are no ideological underpinnings.  Fourth, patrolling these seas is nearly impossible given the vastness of the area.  Michelle and her cohosts suggested hiring their favorite firm Blackwater.  Such measures are hardly cost effective when the shipping industry is already beaten down by a down turn in global trade.  Navies, after all, have as a core part of their missing keeping sea lanes open for trade...or have we forgotten that.  Private policing in a context of public policing usually suggests a failure of the public endeavor.  The real answer involves dealing with the problem on the shore and not at sea.  Enhancing stability in Somalia by encouraging the reemergence of the Islamic Courts and the full withdrawal of Ethiopian troops is at least a discussion worth having.

In all this dicussion, no mention was made regarding the genesis of Horn of Africa piracy in Somalia.  No mention was made about how piracy was on the wane during the Islamic Courts rule in Somalia.  No mention was made about how the Bush administration inadvertantly gave a boost to piracy by taking out the Islamic Courts with a US backed invasion of Somalia by Ethiopia.  No mention was made with regard to current coordinated efforts around prosectution between various international navies and the coastal countries involved.  None of these relevant facts are mentioned because they are NOT KNOWN by these hosts.  But again, the shocking element to the discussion is that these CNBC hosts assert their convictions with such certainty in the face of paucity of experience and information.

If they can make confident, yet completely uninformed statements about subjects they have very knowledge of, imagine how assertive they will be about subjects where they may even have modest information.  It's no wonder that CNBC was unable to navigate its viewership away from the iceberg of this current economic crisis.   Ideology clearly shapes reporting at CNBC.  If you want to score points for your team, watch CNBC for a self-affirming high.  If you want real actionable information, we'd suggest you look somewhere else.

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Her expertise is an inverse to her TV Q score.
I'm sure you would like her idea more than mine.

If the Captain dies, you machine gun the boat, everybody dies. You board another boat, you die also. Killing the crew won't make a difference because we won't need witnesses. When taking of a ship at sea becomes a death sentence, it will stop.

So since you are the expert on all things to do with the high seas can you, without looking it up, explain who Marines got the name "leather necks"?
Didn't she marry someone to get that job?

What a waste. I used to watch CNBC. Back in the pre-9/11 days. Back in saner times...
From Skewz bio: "Skewz.com is a site where you can reveal media bias and at the same time get all sides of the story." You guys must be busy as there is not enough hours in the day to reveal all the MSM liberal bias out there. Thank goodness for FOX news, where else could we go...........well, Skewz I guess.

CNBC, Consistently Nothing But Crap. Mainstream media is a joke.
This woman is an idiot, pure and simple and not just on this topic.
She needs to shut her effing mouth. There are many, highly qualified experts addressing this issue and there are no easy answers. Stupid bitch needs to be force fed a hubris smoothie.
Per Catnlion's comment: The approach of simply blowing up everything up in pirate situations has been the Indian Navy's approach. Actually, the Indian Navy has been the only effective player in recent years in the pirate infested region - sorry "we're the USA, we're the best" crew. However, this has not been a sufficient deterrent as most of the pirates don't have much to lose (see our previous post), and even the largest navies can't be everywhere at once. A more ruthless approach on land would likely have more bang for the buck.
"A more ruthless approach on land would likely have more bang for the buck."

IMHO, these are businessmen, not street thugs. They have to have ports and support operations to hold a supertanker for months.

A ground op against the physical assets that are needed to do what they are doing would have some success. Once things on the ground get hot, they will quit. They are not in business to get killed. They hire people to do that.
Marines are called "leathernecks" because of the leather cravats they once wore. Eat your heart out, Ken Jennings.
Right on - piracy, much like crimes of opportunity - won't just disappear because authorities shake bigger sticks. They disappear when you go after the root causes - poverty, hunger, deprivation.

Blackwater? Awesome. I can see the headlines now - more collateral damage in the high seas as Blackwater Security (now Xe) sinks another cruise ship mistaken for pirates.
"They disappear when you go after the root causes - poverty, hunger, deprivation. "

The people who are putting up the money and getting the profits and not in poverty, hunger r deprivation. They are rich, fat and getting richer.
"Marines are called "leathernecks" because of the leather cravats they once wore."

Great! Were you a Marine?

It was worn when the Marines were around the shores of Tripoli hunting down pirates. They wore it so the Muslim's couldn't cut their heads off.

This, BTW, was the first war where the U.S. flag was carried overseas and planted on foreign soil.
Ah, Michelle Caruso-Cabrera.

Eye candy with no substance. I mean, seriously, during the midday, on CNBC, they've got Bill Griffith and Sue Herrara, who actually know what the hell they're talking about.

And then you've got Melissa Francis, Dennis Kneale, and Michelle Caruso-Cabrera who wouldn't know journalism or a cogent thought if it jumped up and bit them in the ass.

Wanna see something funny?

Watch this takedown of Dennis Kneale by Charlie Gasparino.

I like Gasparino. He will not pull punches and he will go after you if he thinks you're full of it.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnbc/kneale_to_gasparino_show_some_class_charlie_79797.asp
Piracy on the coast of the Horn of Africa exists because the people of that region are desperate, and there is no central government. Desperate people do desperate things.

You can kill the pirates, if you can find them (the area is twice the size of the Gulf of Mexico), but I suspect they will be replaced by others. If I am a crewman bound for the Red Sea/Suez Canal, one of the world's busiest waterways, it would not make me feel very secure knowing that I will be in pirate infested waters, and those pirates would have no incentive NOT to murder me on the spot.
I listened to a local broadcast today, some former Marine/Navy man was on the air, and he says they have to start on land, not at sea. And that means nation-building (!). And there should be a coast guard to patrol the shores. National waters only go out about 12 miles, and these last hijackings have been 2 - 300 miles out. He thinks something smaller than a Carrier and something less than FBI hostage-release experts is called for. I think Hilary's showing her guns. On purpose. She's already referred to these peasants as terrorists. But I'm not sure it's necessary here, in this setting.

The pirates just want their ransom, they don't want conflict. They're extraordinarily ill-prepared to handle conflict, i.e., guns pointing/shooting at them. There are many, many things that have been done to their land, their freshwater, their shorelines, that there's no recourse for, nor any forthcoming. This particular issue, the Somalis, will take time and consideration and will not be fixable in the near future.

Don't forget, there's also the Kenyans... and the Nigerians....
"They're extraordinarily ill-prepared to handle conflict, i.e., guns pointing/shooting at them. "

These people attacked and stopped a large ocean going ship 280 miles out to sea. They were able to board and over come the crew. These were not kids out for a joy ride in a stolen car. They were trained, equipped and well financed to pull this operation off.

This time, they just picked the wrong ship.
Do you write this crap just to amuse yourself and others here?
First of all she never said she was an "expert" about piracy. You did.
Its is typical BS journalism that you re practicing. You state that she presented herself as an expert and then proceed to tear her down.
She made a statement that is as obvious as your nose on your face, and apparently to almost every other news caster I have heard in the last 2 days. But of course you know she is not the only one to say it don't you?

Do you want to be on one of those ships without security? Maybe when they take you hostage you can tell them how you understand the roots of their behavior. I settle for a gun to defend myself.

They have already shown that they can dissuade the aggressors to a degree with water guns. So I have to assume real guns would be quite effective.

And you say it is not terrorism or ideologically motivated. Well who cares? And what is it that you don't understand about the ideology of the mob. Its called power and wealth supported by intimidation, force and corruption.

This acute situation has nothing to do with who did what and when in Somalia. It has to do with ship full of sailors doing a simple job and having their lives threatened. Period. No different than you
getting carjacked in NYC and taken hostage or killed.

But you used this event, that is very simply understood by just about every average Joe in the world, to promote a few things.
Thrash Michelle Caruso-Cabrera
Avoid calling it terrorism
and blame the U.S. of course for the root of there problem.

God job.
For more context on Somali piracy, see: http://open.salon.com/blog/skewz/2009/04/09/the_bush_administrations_gift_to_piracy
Cole, every time you rear your head, you show you're completely clueless.

You don't even know what terrorism constitutes. These people are not terrorists. Terrorists want big things, like the downfall of the United States or Britain out of Northern Ireland.

No, these guys are like someone who tries to rob a bank but then ends up screwing things up and creating a hostage situation.

Terrorists?

Give me a break.

Get a clue, Cole. If you can find one with both of your hands and a flashlight.
So, where does the ransom money go?
To the question of where does the ransom money go, most of it goes figuratively to "hookers and coke." The men involved are young and apparently party hard. However, as piracy has become more organized, local warlords have started getting in on the action. There is legitimate fear that the impressive hauls these pirates have been getting the attention of the likes of al Quaeda which want in on the revenue stream for their own purposes. However, that has not been a significant issue thus far as, in fact, the local Islamic coalitions have been the pirates biggest enemies. That can, however, change/evolve. Al Quaeda has tried to get involved in piracy in the Indonesian waters. They have not been a material player to date, however. Arming all ships is not cost effective. Over 50,000 ships traverse these waters and about 250 get picked off. The shippers have determined it's more cost effective to pay the ransoms. The Air Marshals on the US ended up receding down to being on about 1% of all planes. Arming all ships with trained security is not feasible and even armed ships are boarded at times when the crew is not coordinated to ward off the threat. Stronger naval coordination by multi-national forces has been the most effective deterrent in the Asian waters that have had a piracy problem for nearly 500 years. In addition, strong on-shore dismantling of their operational capabilities have further reduced trouble around the straits in Indonesia. The press often tries to simplify a complex situation to a point where the full picture doesn't emerge but many wrong answers do. We strive to avoid Iraq War type simplifications in order for people (the public) to make more intelligent decisions.
The idea that meeting violence with violence results in more violence does not hold true. Pirates are criminals, they prey on the weak and most defenseless. What they don't want is resistance or the chance of being killed while committing their crimes.

Maybe the ship owners should consider arming their ships with a security force. It is hard to board a ship when being sprayed with a couple of 50 cal. machine guns. As it stand right now, these ships are easy marks since there is no or little resistance.

Will it result in the pirates being more aggressive? No, they do not want a fire fight they want the ransom for the crew and cargo.
Tony - Maybe I don't know what your definition of terrorism constitutes. maybe you should interview one of the victims involved and ask them if they felt terrorized. What mental process lead you to conclude that ALL terrorism is directly associated with overthrow of a government. Is that definition like written in stone somewhere.
I'll settle for armed violence and willingness to kill = terror.

But that definition as the smaller of my points. And of course you addressed no others, just trash mouthing me as usual.

Now, was Cabrera the only one tomake similar comments or did many other newscasters, and for that matter, many people have the same conclusion. Thus I conclude the OP is just trashing her.
As I said, misrepresenting to us that she ever claimed to be an expert and then tearing her down for stating the obvious. Well you don't have to be a expert to state the obvious. Get a gun.

But there is an alternative. While that captain is in that boat we can all sit around and discuss the social/political aspects of why these people are motivated to to do such acts of violence that are clearly not how they would behave if the world hadn't treated them so poorly. Nah, get a gun.
Cole, you're an idiot.

So, by your definition, someone who holds up a bank is a terrorist, right? Because I tell you what. The people who are in that bank feel terrorized.

A guy who holds up a liquor store, according to your "logic," also is a terrorist. The people in that liquor store feel terrorized, too.

You know what I think? You're lying about working for IBM. Based on what you've posted, I'll bet you couldn't tell me what IBM stands for if I spotted you the International and Machines.
How did this woman get hired? Stupidity?