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APRIL 13, 2009 10:18AM

Post Pirate Parley

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Jeff Emanuel at Redstate.org provides a fairly partisan view of the Maersk-Alabama incident in the Indian Ocean. If you check out his editorial, you'll get a heaping spoonful of Obama contempt. Emanuel argues that the administration is essentially stealing credit for a situation that they completely bungled by allowing it to go on for some time - almost 5 days.
 
We're waiting to hear David Axe's assessment. David (over at warisboring.com and WIRED) is an independent freelance journalist who has spent time tracking Somali pirates. He's also a lot less inclined to let his possible partisan views taint his evaluation of situations. At the time of this writing, David has not posted anything; but we understand he's travelling in Afghanistan, and we continue to pray for his safety...and for his ability to access the Internet.
 
Emanuel was in the military and would seemingly have a good grasp of military tactics. Based on that background he asserts that the administration showed its inexperience and indecisiveness in this latest foreign policy flare-up. "Inexperience" and "Indecisiveness" are the running memes/narratives on the right these days...that along with referring to Obama as "President Pantywaist."
 
But looking at the basic facts, wasn't patience possibly a virtue (He who is prudent and lies in wait for an enemy who is not, will be victorious. - Sun Tzu, The Art of War. c.400-320 b.c.)? When the Indian Navy (pictured above in the AP photo) took out a Thai ship that was being used by the pirates as a mother ship, Thai hostages were killed. When French commandos stormed a ship over the past few days, a hostage was killed. In the case of Captain Phillips, he was in an enclosed lifeboat being towed by a US destroyer. Waiting the pirates out would seem the best way to get an optimal ending. A rush to action may have been emotionally satisfying, but could have led to a similar tragic outcome. In addition, the Indian Navy's isolated aggressiveness during the last quarter of 2008 did not deter pirate activity. More coordinated work from a variety of navies is likely necessary. This assessment is based on the actions that can be correlated with reduced pirate activity around Indonesia. It would have only been fair to explore that perspective.
 
It's fair to assert that the administration may have been latching onto something they had little to do with except to give the folks on the ground (both the Navy and the FBI) the space to operate freely with explicit direction to take drastic action when deemed appropriate. But to be fair, the White House has not held even a meaningful press conference to "take advantage" of the events. As one Skewz.com commentator mentioned, there was no "Mission Accomplished" banner.
 
Deconstructing a situation in a meaningful way would at least involve looking at the advantages and disadvantages of various possible decisions. The commenting class is focused on persuading versus informing. That persuasion too often relies primarily on emotional appeals versus intellectual ones.

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Well making them hungry and thirst to a point is reasonable in order to get a better kill shot, but it was a little slow in the grand strategy point of view in terms of showing weakness, although not too bad, you could do that too much.
Hey, they rescued the Captain and killed the Pirates. Was that not the idea? WTF do they want?
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Yeah, the way I see it, that there President Obama shoulda had a Pirate Plan on Congress's desks by his third day in office. Incompetent fuck. Anybody out here in the blogosphere coulda got that captain outta the lifeboat in a couplea hours, tops. Only a president could screw up that royally!
As mentioned in the original post, the Indian navy has been extremely aggressive off the coast of Somalia in terms of shoot first ask questions later. However, a more coordinate approach similar to that taken by the Singaporean, Malaysian, Chinese, Indian and Indonesian navies taken in the Asian Straits may be necessary as one-off actions by stretched navies from one or two countries will not be enough. From the article linked in the post:

"Indian Navy Destroys Pirate Ship in Gulf of Aden
By Steve Herman
New Delhi
19 November 2008
For the second time in a week, India's navy has repelled pirates in the Gulf of Aden. VOA Correspondent Steve Herman reports from New Delhi that compared to other navies patrolling the pirate-infested water, India's warships are showing no hesitation in opening fire to thwart hijackings and protect their national interests beyond its shores."
There are some serious problems with Jeff Emmanuel's piece. Typical of right wing zealots- they are always long on imagination and short on the sourcing of facts.
1. Emmanuel repeated the inaccurate info that Captain Phillips dove overboard a second time and allowed the snipers a clear shot at the pirates. In fact CNN has already cleared that up- Captain Phillips did NOT dive overboard a second time. In fact the snipers started shooting when they saw the pirates point an AK47 at Cpt Phillips' back.
2. Emmanuel gave absolutely on sources for his assertion that Obama insisted on a 'peaceful resolution' where no pirates are harmed in the production. In fact Obama gave clear orders to shoot if Cpt Phillps' life is in danger
3. Emmanuel made it sound like Obama did not do anything and wrung his hands while the commander of the Bainbridge took amtters into his own hands. When in fact the Navy snipers were flown in. They secretly parachuted onto the Bainbridge. Far from sitting there wringing his hands- somebody in the Obama administration actively put things together for this rescue.

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=53900
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/12/captain-richard-phillips_n_185983.html
Really, is this what we want from a president? Presidents are involved in the big picture not micro managing every little event. Yes, when you boil it down pirates off the coast of Africa are small in comparison to all the issues facing or president. It is not his or her job to micro manage crimes on the high seas.

It is always easy to second guess a situation. The president is not omnipresent. My question just how much do we expect from one man or woman republican or democrat. It seems every event that happens in the world we lay at the feet of the president. This is why we have the CIA, navy, army, air force and diplomatic core. They should be handling a handful of pirates.

Also, you would think if a ship owner has a tanker with 100 million dollars of cargo, they would at least have a security force on board. It is their job to protect their property in international waters not wait for the president of the United States to fix it.
Second-guessing is easier than figuring out what to do in the moment but I gotta admit, I'm wondering why all the countries who've been targets have been a bit slow on the uptake. I mean, the US isn't the only country with an armed navy...
oh...and PS as to Emanuel's deconstruction - no matter what the outcome, he was going to criticize. What else can he/they do?
I believe that International Law forbids these ships to carry any type of weapons. This law may have to be revisited in order for these ships to protect themselves. I would rather see them be able to protect themselves than for us to get involved in another "police action" that none of the other countries will have anything to do with, but they will use us to protect their ships.
Eh, there is no appeasing the more rabid right wing in this country. Jonah Goldberg apparently had the temerity to blog on the Corner last night about the rescue and praised Obama for doing the right thing, and now is receiving all sorts of hate mail. Jonah Goldberg, for God's sake. The man is not normally one of the more thoughtful voices on the right.

These guys just want some screw-up to hang around our president's neck. It's sad that even something like this becomes partisan fodder. I'm sure if Captain Phillips had not survived his ordeal the right would be blaming Obama alone somehow.
great post. maybe Mr. Emanuel should go direct some rescue operations in the Indian Ocean. I just love it when the experts come out to play after the fact.
Five days is about right for putting together a plan and then executing it flawlessly on the high seas. That's all they got, really? Obama didn't kick ass fast enough?
Looks like the Internet Tough-guys are out in full force. Not only would they have decisively solved the Pirate crisis in a half hour, they would have parachuted onto the ship themselves and slaughtered all the pirates using their bare hands and possibly a couple of teeth.
As your local Right Wing nut, I have to say that President Obama did a great job with this one. He, in public, stayed out of it. Had he gotten involved publicly it would have made the problem worse in the world view.

With one of the pirates on the Navy ship trying to get the other 3 to give up there was no need to take the fatal action that finally happened until the Captains life was believed to truly be in danger.

Truth be know, I'll be willing to bet the okay to use deadly force came from President Obama. When to pull the triggers, I'm also sure, was left up to the on scene commander.

Way to go Obama!
What a bunch of lunatics they have over there at Red State. And it appears if you bring up facts (like the fact that Phillips didn't jump overboard a second time), you get threatened with moderation.
I think this was well played by everyone except the pirates. They were stupid. You've got warships of the world's most powerful navy surrounding you, and you do something stupid like point a gun at your only bargaining chip's head?

Not smart.

I think Obama did exactly the right thing. He told the commander on scene to exercise his judgment and let him make the call. Just imagine what would have happened if that guy had to call Obama to get the okay to take the shot. That delay may have proven fatal to the hostage.
This was handled absolutely correctly. One way or the other, the Navy had to move. I have no problem with it taking a few days. As long as it ended with an attempt to rescue the Capt. Even if it had gone wrong I would not have placed any blame on Obama.
The French lost one hostage in their attempt. Sad, but still the correct move. Good for Obama and the French. Criminals can never be rewarded. And all the more reason for our highly skilled military.
Apparently the SEALS were there from day one, waiting for the shot. And they had two teams, so they had a back-up plan. Obviously, then, NOT to slow at all.
International law does not prevent merchant ships from being armed. The only law against it is the law of the nations in the different ports. Some ports allow weapons, others don't.
It is interesting that the conservative use an oudated "miltary model" where making a decision and acting come before thinking. Obama proved that thinking trumps wild gestures of decisiveness based on bravado.
This situation will prove to be a great test of international cooperation and I look to the UN to show its worth in dealing with piracy. The laws on the high seas are a perfect showcase for international cooperation. We shall see but I am optimistic.
"This situation will prove to be a great test of international cooperation and I look to the UN to show its worth in dealing with piracy. "

This is not a new problem. It's just the first American ship taken in something like a hundred years. So where has all this "international cooperation" and the UN been over the years? There are lots of ships and hundreds of hostages being held currently.

Guess what todays news brings? Yup, another ship taken. Who is going to go and get it back, or will they just pay the ransom?