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JUNE 10, 2011 4:24PM

The Structure of Relationships _ In Defense of Being a Man!

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Artist: Stefan Strasser 
 
Since this is such a hot subject because of the Weiner controversy, let me take this opportunity to expose myself very clearly before I go on! 

I am a 62 year old Gay man who grew up in a family of five sisters, one mother and one grandmother. As I came to understand my sexuality, I drew a lot of inspiration from the civil rights movement and the women’s movement. Back in the 1970s I considered myself a Phil Donahue type of feminist. I remember laughing at the 70’s bumper sticker that proclaimed that “A Woman Without A Man Is Like a Fish Without A Bicycle.” Because much of my political awakening happened in the thick of the feminist movement, surrounded by women in my personal life, I “became a man” who holds many of the values that women happily claim as the female part of the Yin and Yang.

Yes I understand the unfair reality of the concept that it’s a man’s world. I understand the frustration of unequal wages for equal work. I understand that women are often abused physically and emotionally in relationships. My sisters and my female friends taught me very well to understand the concept of equality versus inequality. But being a Gay man in a world that believes it’s heterosexual, I learned first hand that equality can sometimes be a hypocrite! With that in mind I say to my sisters and female friends that it is also possible that “A Man Without a Woman Is Like A Fish Without a Bicycle!”

So now let’s talk about sexism through the eyes of true equality. If talking about cutting out the genitals of females is considered violent speech, then the same goes for talking about cutting off men’s genitals! If it is imperative for men to understand where a woman “is coming from,” then it is also imperative for women to understand where a man “is coming from!” Yes, that’s right, I watched Oprah too! So don’t make us invisible by not hearing us! A generalization is a generalization regardless of the gender of the person making it. There are a few basic biological distinctions between the male and female that I’m sure are difficult to understand today in a rapidly changing world.

Deep in the intuitive Yin (Female?) part of my being there is an aching in my heart each time I hear women speaking of men as though we are responsible for everything bad in the world. Listening and understanding is a two way street. I do not know what it’s like to be in a female body, to have female needs, to see the world through a woman’s eyes and experience. I am sure the same can be said of women trying to understand men.

But I am a man, and this I can tell you from my own experience if you are willing to listen. That simplistic idea that all men are “cheaters and liars” grows out of a basic unwillingness of many women to allow men to be, feel or even speak of who they are biologically. And it angers me to see how ideas that viscously attack many aspects of masculinity go unchallenged. Relationships are personal, to be agreed upon by the persons involved in a particular relationship.   

Every day of my life now I mourn the loss of the true love of my life and celebrate the fact that I had a truly wonderful relationship at least once in this lifetime. That relationship was not based on monogamy or religious inspired morality. It was based on the idea that we should be able to tell each other the truth without feeling the truth would end our relationship. That required both of us to delve deep into what we believed it meant to be men. We eventually came to the understanding that while sexuality seemed very important at the time, it was a very small part of our overall relationship. We never required the other to lie! Jealousy became something that seemed childish as our relationship became stronger and stronger. As the entire nation struggles with the battle for equality in marriage laws, I am baffled at how many people within marriages are so quick to throw them away when my relationship lasted without a piece of paper.  

At the bottom of my e-mails is a line from Emerson, Lake and Palmer’s song “Closer To Believing.” “From the opium of custom...To the ledges of extremes..Don't believe it till you've held it..Life is seldom what it seems..But lay your heart upon the table..And in the shuffling of dreams..Remember who on earth you are.

That was the theme song for our relationship. The line that really expressed how we both felt was this: “I need Me, You need You, We want Us!” 

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Yeah, first to one of the good ones!
Right back at you Mary!
Oooooooo, somebody had to say it! I think a lot of people thought that my piece on Arnold was an attack on men, too, but it was anything but. My point really was that wise women know that all men are NOT the same. If you want a playmate, enjoy--just be real about what the results are likely to be. If you want that "real" man, that "real" love...they're out there, no doubt feeling they're being bashed unfairly. But not by me. All of my former lovers save...THAT one...are still with me and are some of the most amazing, loyal and loving friends I could ever imagine. I haven't found that "forever love" yet, but they've taught me that men can love deeply, even after the romance is over, and that men are individuals, not some monolithic "demographic" that can be easily described or prescribed to.

The GAY men I have known called me on my "shyte" while I was still in my teens, and changed my world forever. I learned more about men and being a woman from some of them than from anyone else. I consider myself incredibly lucky.

And now...there's YOU, keepin' me real, now that I'm headed for 60. You know how I feel about you, though...
Hey Keka, I'm sure all of us wonder how our thoughts on sexuality will be translated in this culture that bashes it more than it celebrates it. I've been out in the bigger world where I've been overwhelmed by cultures that are less judging and less Puritanical than the country of my birth. I just want us to be adult about it when it really counts. And as a man with feelings, it really hurts to hear words that demean all men as a group.
I hope it’s obvious that this was written from my heart in a place of peace. Like Keka said, somebody had to say it. This is bringing up all kinds of thoughts I need to share as they come. Every once in a while I am reminded that I am really weird in the context of what is accepted out there as normal.

In the last six months of Rob’s life, in our 15th year together, he fell in love with an Italian man named Adriano. In the last six months of his life he was happy like a young teenager who had fallen in love for the first time. Because of our closeness and trust, this phenomenon seemed absolutely normal. We became a trinity, reading up on all the spiritual aspects of the number three. Adriano and I also became close and he became like a brother and a son to me. I’ve always been good at seeing the bigger picture and often I’m reminded of the consequences of trying to destroy the inevitable.

At the end of Rob’s life Adriano was able to help Rob make decisions I would never have been able to agree to. At Rob’s memorial the wife of one of my good friends asked me how I could allow this man Adriano to stand up and speak of his love for Rob. “How can you not be jealous!” she kept asking in different ways. The reason I was not jealous was because Rob never cheated on me. In order to “cheat” there has to be a rule to break! WOW! How weird is that?
Thanks for your honesty and more. Your very well spoken and I think you make some excellent points. Coming from you I am sure your reasoning is top notch and I congratulate your outstanding ability to speak up for yourself and others so clearly .
Spirit, I got goosebumps reading this. I may have shared with you that I am a straight fellow with two aunties up in Connecticut who have been together for 24 years. They have enriched my life invaluably by imparting perspectives that quite distinct from my own. Along the way, however, I found myself grappling with male guilt--not that the strong feminist influence in my life is necessarily to blame.

There may be a kind of justice in it given that the male half of our race has enjoyed privilege these last 50 centuries of human history--and doubltess for hundreds of centuries before. Still, I feel I must get out from under the burden in order to move forward as an individual. Your eloquent post puts wind in my sails.
Absolutely superb, particularly the third last paragraph starting with "That relationship was not based on monogamy ..." on down, which resonates with me. I am married to the love of my life here, but our relationship isn't based on the piece of paper nor traditional customs but on honesty, communication, commitment, caring, and understanding. This whole monogamy as the be-all end-all for many to the detriment of everything else -- particularly real honesty and mutual acceptance -- baffles me. Thanks for such a balanced, realistic piece.
Thank You VA. I've known for a long time that telling the truth in a relationship makes all of the other issues null and void. It also creates a foundation built on trust.
"Relationships are personal, to be agreed upon by the persons involved in a particular relationship." Well said. Historically, society as a whole has tried to put certain "rules" in place for personal relationships. Once we all realize the meaning of the word, "personal", we will begin to progress, as a society, more rapidly. Great post!
So now let’s talk about sexism through the eyes of true equality. If talking about cutting out the genitals of females is considered violent speech, then the same goes for talking about cutting off men’s genitals! If it is imperative


that we not do it.

i think. unless my balls are gettin in the way of my
head.

never.

lately.
Thanks for this piece. A relationship is defined by the people in it, not by others on the outside, try as they might to do it. I feel sad when people cannot be who they are, when their closest love tries to make them into something else. In all ways be honest. If you are honest then its as good as it can ever be. If there is the unexplainable, the unforeseen, then, still, be honest. There are very good men out there. I have known many and I am with one now for the last 25 years. There have been expectations, but they have been shared and real for us. I only wish others the very best, as the best is the life.
I'm an oddball, I just try to see people as people and not the sum of all people who are similar. I refuse to assign all members of any grouping collective guilt for the acts of others. Gee, that sounds silly when I say it doesn't it? You're okay, I'm okay.
I love this line: Relationships are personal, to be agreed upon by the persons involved in a particular relationship.

So true. There are no rules. And two thumbs up for impeccible taste in EL&P. Such a beautiful song.
Learning to carry your own water is under-rated.
Asking for help is admirable and shows strength.
Demanding it is weak.
Truth can hurt.
I was deeply moved by this post - and the beautiful song. I believe that in the new millennium, we will see a fresh re-imagining of many contemporary binaries: masculine/feminine, gay/straight, married/single, love/loss.
You are a man among men, a guy I would love to count among my friends. It should never be necessary for either males or females to write anything entitled "In Defense of..." It is the mutual understanding we must continue to seek. I have never worn the feminist label voluntarily because of the apparent requirement for a feminist to be anti-male. All that does in my opinion is create an even greater divide.

My issue is and always will be deceit. Lying until caught, even lying after being caught; that's what I find repugnant, no matter which gender. I may not be able to successfully thrive in such an open relationship as the one you had with Rob -- I do struggle to preserve exclusivity in my own relationships -- but I do think it makes for a far better chance of a satisfactory outcome for all involved.

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I'm not sure about this. It sounds an awful lot like what men say when they get caught cheating, especially the part about our "biological" nature, like we just can't help ourselves. I know you're celebrating being in a relationship here, but the argument sounds a little slippery.
Cheat: to play or do business in a way that is not honest; practice deceit; act fraudulently. My point is that there is no reason or even opportunity to cheat if telling the truth is the foundation of a relationship in the first place. Truth is, most people don't even want to go there because they don't want to give up the power that comes with playing that game. The point of this piece and the song is that it is possible for two people to be equal in a partnership, without one saying, these are my rules, play by them or I will leave you. Then, within the concept of cheating, let's have equality. Cheating does not have gender. Women can and do cheat also, if you want to play that game.
First of all Sam, thank you for the challenge. As I read your post a second time, it sounds very familiar, like the emotions it evokes. Yes I am celebrating being in a relationship here. That relationship worked. What's also familiar is how easy it is in this culture, to dismiss relationships that don't fit the narrow confines of the accepted definition of relationship. As I look around me at how difficult and often disastrous many of those relationships are, I celebrate even more.

Now for the slippery part, I ask a question. Why when we talk about the biological differences between genders, is it always to reflect positively on the female and negatively on the male? Personally, I celebrate my masculinity with full responsibility for how I express it in my life. What always amazes me is how easily other people walk across a line, into the personal lives of men, and make judgements in a place where they do not have a right to be. I am proud of my biological maleness as much as women are proud of their biological femaleness. But in this world that assumes it's a man's world, there is a very nice advantage to being female that is seldom spoken of. They are almost never called upon to apologize for who they are.
Wait, it's a man's world? Since when? Forever!?!

Crap, why didn't anyone tell me!! ~runs off into the world~ :D

Rated!!!
Tink,

At 2:30 AM I checked in and there was something about your post that kept me awake. So here are my thoughts;

I was once involved in a public debate about male sexuality in San Francisco, when a gentleman came up to me and screamed that I was a sexist because I was talking about male sexuality without even mentioning Lesbians! I laughed! What the Hell does male sexuality have to do with Lesbians, I asked?

So here I am telling my story about my relationship with another man, and again there is an implication that telling my story somehow is slippery because I speak about my biological nature in a way that is supposedly used as an excuse in male/female relationships. Last time I checked I never had a sexual relationship with a woman, so again I ask, what the Hell does my personal story of a male to male relationship have to do with women?

In the beginning of our relationship, when Rob and I shared our feelings about how that relationship would look, we didn’t have to wonder how it feels to be a man in a relationship, just as two lesbians would not have to wonder how it feels to be a woman in a relationship. Like it or not, that’s a distinct advantage of being in a same sex relationship.

And just in case it isn’t obvious to some, this attitude comes directly from my involvement in the feminist movement in the 1970s! (Check bumper sticker quote above!)
I really like this post, SpiritMan SF. While the social roles of men and women have become much more fluid, our biology is basically still the same, and this flux seems to be affecting the workplace, raising children, relationships...all aspects of our society really. Maybe it is also causing some confusion and fear.

"It angers me to see how ideas that viscously attack many aspects of masculinity go unchallenged." I agree with you, like the divisiveness that is occurring in the political arena and other aspects of our society, the gender-based negativity and violent language towards both men and women is really unhealthy for everyone. This is not the main topic of your post, but I think the children are getting affected...both boys and girls need to have their own gender respected and valued, and respect the other as well...it is crucial to their development and self-respect, for their own healthy relationships...and also if they raise children, so they can love and respect their child someday, whatever their gender, and however they express the balance of Yin and Yang inside themselves.

Thank you for sharing another very thoughtful and beautifully expressed post!
I agree with Keka, Most of the gay men who are my friends now are men I worked with as an AIDS volunteer in the 1980's...I learned more about being a woman from some of them than I did from some men with whom I had romantic relationships. We need to burn all the closets!
Thanks for the courage it takes to write a piece like this.
I look at you as a 21-year-old gay man and I can only HOPE to experience a relationship the way you did. Not only are you breaking the stereotype of "men as dogs," but you're also exemplifying a gay relationship with solid moral foundations, which despite popular belief, is not an oxymoron. Thank you for sharing this.
And I just keep coming back to the curiosity that women raise men..

Every time I hear either diss the other I find myself wanting to sputter "But.. but..!"

Rated for outside the box is a blessing well disguised.
Amen. The most incredibly loving, motherly, fatherly, supporter has been my dear husband, a perfect master of love.
I am happy for you too, that you experienced a great relationship.
You do realize that a fish would make a bicycle seat stinky?

…I just thought it was an interesting observation.