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Stellaa
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Santa Rosa, California, USA
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August 21
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I blog. I am not a writer by trade nor do I strive to be one. I love blogging. Ideas, flickers, and in no time, you have a body of work. Blogging is like a yoga practice for the brain.

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JUNE 19, 2009 2:56PM

Meandering Thoughts: In Celebration of Father's Day

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 I wanted to write about Father's Day but could not distill my thoughts  into one single  thought.  I hate long posts.  But I do have three points to make about Father's Day.  

 Fathers These Days

My generation of women, you know who we are, the women of a certain age, the feminists, the hags, the Hillaries, etc, grew up in a different world.  The Mad Men world.  We started a revolution.  Changing our roles as wives, mothers and workers.  We had no play book, we had no role models.  

We figured out new ways for childcare, working and mothering.  We wanted to change how our daughters were treated and in many cases reinvented divorce.  

We were not happy with what we had and we tried to change it.   

Meantime, the daddies  in our lives, saw their roles changing and stood by. They got help in not having to be the sole bread winners; they got to do their thing and we took over many of their traditional burdens in an effort to change the paradigm of family.   

 Many of us assumed that the men of our generation would be worthy partners in making those changes.  Bu,t what most of us heard was:  "What do you want me to do" " Tell me what to do and I will do it? "

 In thinking that they were being different, they  stood in the sidelines.  How the fuck do I know what needs to be done?  I am making it up as I go, do something, is all I wanted to say.  I am working on my role, work on yours, do I have to do that as well? 

This generation of men got the best of both worlds.  They did not have the sole provider burden of their dad's generation, they passed on home responsibilities and  still had the advantages in the workplace and society.   

Now , the same  generation of men has started to drone about how they had it hard and how they are the victims of these women, the women of my generation. 

They have started circles of self pity and women have started to re-write history and take the blame for the men's pathetic behavior.  Honestly, I  just want to throttle the little putzes.  

Try something, anything.  But do something when you see the world changing.  (Yes, I know your husband, or you the husband  was great, I am not talking about you or him, I am talking about the generational silence, the lack of movement).  The collective whining of men these days is rather pathetic and truly not based on any truth,  just self pity.  

In that same way that they were passive husbands, they were passive fathers to their sons. 

We, the  moms could deal with the little boys, but when they got into adolescence, the dads did not step in. I feel sad for many of the boys.  The silence and passivity of the generation of their fathers is astounding.   They left the boys to their peer group and infantilizing video games.  (yes gross generalization, live with it). 

I know that everyone is worried about the "slutty girls" but you should be worried about the boys and their silence.  The girls are getting their lives together and taking charge, yet, I see a passivity from their male counterparts, not just the slackers, even the achievers.  

A hunger for mind numbing escapism, playing and a crippling attachment to their male peer group.   

Honestly, the fact that they are not out in the streets rioting about the economic conditions and the wars that we are in still makes my stomach churn.  If they don't get angry now, when are they gonna get angry? 

 

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My Father

I did not discover feminism in the sixties, in college, or from a book.  I discovered feminism from my father.  

Who was my father?  He was born in Egypt in 1914.  His father died when he was twelve.  He became a feminist at that point when he saw the struggle of even a wealthy widow in "society".  

From a very young age he talked to me about all matters of the world.  He never thought one should sugar coat the world for children.  He believed that children as members of the family, should know and understand the problems.  He never uttered the words: "not in front of the children".  

On marriage:  he told be at an early age that the most degrading form of prostitution is the bourgeois marriage, it forces women to submit with all the societal blessings.  

He pushed me to always understand about money.  To always have a means of supporting myself.  To always have the freedom that money is not coming to me as a favor or as a reward from another.   Each year I had to make a budget, starting from the age of seven.

He condemned all religions cause they limited their morality to a woman's genitals.  He condemned the patriarchy and always pointed out to me how authority represses in visible and invisible ways.  He always encouraged me to question all authority figures and never to submit to them. 

My father changed the traditional role of fathering.  He did it consciously and now that I am older, I appreciated how he took his beliefs and how he practiced them.  He was not always right, but at least he tried.  

I guess I was hoping for that kind of glimmer from the men of my generation.  Rethinking fatherhood .  Maybe because he did not have a father he invented the role.  

Maybe my frustration was that no one had to tell my father how to change his role as a father.  He did it without prompts and in a  society without all the changes.  He would always say, loving your partner is anticipating what that person needs, not waiting till they tell you.  

 

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Cowboy Dad 

We went to the Russian River Rodeo two weeks ago and saw this dad with his baby on a horse.  I fell in love with that image.  Tell me this is not just some of the most heart tugging dad and baby image?  

I don't have great photographing skills, but I had to capture that image.  It says so much.  The tenderness of holding the baby, the traditions, it goes on and on.  I hope it's not illegal to post this picture.  

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Damn, that is just so gorgeous.  

 

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I'm with you on both numbers one and two -- all the way. Number 3 is just beautiful. Thanks.
that was really well-done. and by well-done, i mean smart and clear-eyed. and you're right. the pictures are awesome.
What a dad you had!! Wow! What's so admirable about him is that he actually thought about and questioned the status quo which is such a rarity! Most people, men and women. are so conventional, so status quo, so unthinking, so unquestioning that it's not only sad and pathetic, but helps explain the slow pace of social progress (well, that and the fact that only 16% of the world's population is above average in intelligence!!) Men, especially, who question the status quo are so rare because the status quo favors men!!

What a father you had!! Bless his heart a thousand times!!
Julie, thanks, you missed the rodeo by a week, but that would be coals to Newcastle and all that.

Squierrel, thank you. I just keep singing Willie's song, "my heros have always been cowboys".
My dad and I loved cowboy movies. He started with Tom Mixx in the 30's, I liked the 50's cowboys.
Your Dad was a radical man, you were fortunate to have had such a man as your father.

Those pictures are touching, especially the last one, handsome cowboy, beautiful baby.
Outstanding, Stellaa. All 3 elements of your post. And perhaps the cowboy will do for his son what your father did for you.
"The silence and passivity of the generation of their fathers is astounding."

WORD.
Willie also sang "don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys"!
you're welcome. my favorite thing bout the pics is the look on the son's face in the bottom one. it's the look of "i want to have fun but i'm a little scared so you better not let me go, dad." and you just know that after like fifteen minutes, the son's used to it and having a ball.
to the point Stellaa
you were very lucky to have the father you got- what a smart man
Julie, you are right, but I think he is talking about the other cowboys.

Sq, yes that look. I just love it.

Soap, ablonde, my dad was quite the radical all his life.

Walter, a very gracious thank you.

Thanks Julie, he made me think that it would have been easier than it was.
Fantastic post and so, so true. Your dad was a smart man. And this is killer: "He would always say, loving your partner is anticipating what that person needs, not waiting till they tell you."

I don't get some men our age who whine. Jesus -- they had the best of everything: patriarchy, free love, no responsibility for birth control, no housework, 50's-style "ask your mother" parenting, and the fucking world falling at their feet for the most part. Yep, I 'd love to be that hard done by.
It was said before but I have to say what a chord you struck with me, "The silence and passivity of the generation of their fathers is astounding." I thought this was just in my house.
And your father, what a wise man, " loving your partner is anticipating what that person needs, not waiting till they tell you."
Thank you for such a right-on statement.
Damn - brilliant, Stellaa!
Great post. I don't see bourgeois marriage and religion as evil (in fact I think they work quite well for millions of people), but it sounds like your father was an extraordinary man and I suspect the same is true of the cowboy Dad, too.
You were lucky to have your Dad, and to learn so many good lessons from him. And what great pictures to illustrate what it means to be a Dad.
Phaedo: you hit on something, it's as if the housework, the children, the bills, the doctors appointments, were all things invented by women to make them miserable. Dude, this is what it takes to keep a family going. I will do my share, but you need to pick up and worry about an equal share or else life does become with me the woman always nagging your lazy adolescent ass. "what do women want", no it's what do families need to survive and keep going. Figure it out, go read a book or google it.

Emma the free sex benefit , I forgot that. Free sex and they had little consequences during the pre Aides days.
Life, it's all about those chords. We have to repeat them. The noise of anti feminism is deafening.
Steve (or Blevin #2, are you guys related? is Blevin like really common and I missed it), yes, for many it works well, but for generations the combination cause brutal oppression.

Owl, thanks.
Excellent thoughts Stellaa. I need to re-read No. 1 and cogitate there a bit. I know in the past I have felt empathy for men of a certain age who probably DID get lost in the revolution. So much changed so fast after millinea of the status quo and sometimes I think we forgot to try to help our men redefine their roles as we steam-rolled over them in our march towards equality. However, even as I write that, I am acutely aware that you and I are speaking about men in a limited class of men - those we would meet and know in our types of lives (which I have no easy way to define without potentially insulting some good men so I hope you know what I mean). I have also experienced far too many unenlightened cretins for whom the discussion points in No.1 will take at least another 100 years to permeate.

Your father sounds like an excellent man. He valued his daughter and treated her with respect. He taught you everything most others would have considered "man" business at the time. He raised you to know you were of equal value to any boy or man. How lucky you were.

My dad died when I was too young to really know him as a man, but I do know that he expected the exact same things from me as he did my brothers. He and my mother were partners and shared roles in working and child-rearing equally. Not the norm for folks born in the 1920s and rasing children in the 50's and 60's. He set me up for success by demonstrating daily that women were equal to men on all levels.

My knee-jerk reaction to No. 3 is somewhat shameful BUT, I still couldn't help wondering of the cowboy would be doing the same with his girl-child. Even so, it is awfully cute and encouraging that he is as involved as he appears to be. But what if his boy decides to become an artist instead of a cowboy? iyiyiyi, that is so pessimistic (but I did live in Texas for 10 years)!
Stellaa, I hope your memories of or dan can help you to heal on your feelings of contemporary males. Perhaps men are different in California, but in my experience, growing up and living in the midwest, the mother is the obvious hub of a family....all spokes attach to her, and from her comes the power of decisions, the rule of the house, children, and extra-curricular events. The men, having a lead role in securing the income, take an active and conciliatory role. As it works out, it is even-steven. No moaning, just hard work and devotion.

I am sorry you have witnessed lazy assholes in your experience.....
BTW, in the second part of your essay, I might think you were writing about my dad. He was dirt poor as a child, but pulled himself up through smarts and determination, respecting all folks, regardless of gender, for their sacrifices.
Sorry, in the first sentence..."your dad".....
Gary,
This is not personal. By the way, I am not injured and I don't need to heal. These are observations of a generation and how one gender, and the women of my ilk, took on the changes, and like you say, in the Midwest, the traditional model is still alive and well, and how men, of the same generation, passively did not take on to change their role.
"the traditional model is still alive and well" even if you have no place in it unfortunately :/
Kelly, from what I saw at that Rodeo, those little girls were doing some pretty cool stuff. It would take me 20 reincarnations to dare do any of that.
Stellaa, this was so great, thank you!
This was such an interesting, well thought out piece pointing up some fathers while also pointing at some so-called fathers.

Your father was quite a man, and he helped to make quite a woman.

I used to go to rodeos quite often; this image is one I saw many times repeated. Thanks for sharing it and letting me be reminded these kind of men still exist.
"But, what most of us heard was: "What do you want me to do" " Tell me what to do and I will do it? " How familiar is this???

You were quite lucky to have your daddy...
yes if not now, when are they going to be angry?... o and the "tell me what to do?" stuff - you are just right, I could not quite figure out what it is that disturbs me all the time: this strange sideline sitting-on-the-fence aggressive passivity...

Your pa sounds like a very wise man, a lot of ours were is why we became who we are today I guess, never could thank him or do enough for him in his lifetime though, realized things so late...

and yes, that is a lovely image, very tender thanks
I will come back and re-read and think about this a bit. But in the meantime, you had an amazing father.

Loved the pictures of cowboy and baby.
Stella,
You have a rare and wonderful father. He sure knew how to raise a daughter to be free thinking, strong and without the old societal norms. Loved this post very much. I am guilty of writing a far too long one about my dad, however, long posts are not my usual form.
You also nailed it with the cowboy dad. That just tugs ones heart in all sorts of ways. Love a dad who is so loving and patient with a small child. That is sexier than anything in the world. My wonderful son-in-law is a cowboy/rancher, with two small children and my precious 2 year old grandson learned to ride a very large Clydesdale in exactly the same way you have shown in your father/son photo here. It makes my heart soar to see these parental interactions with their little ones. Your meandering thoughts were well apprecdiated.
Good post about your father but, the first part I don't agree with. The men I know are men and don't shirk on household responsibilities. And can't say that I've heard any man moan about how hard he has had it. I've heard a lot of women whine though! It must be a different world in CA!
Pamela, Thanks but I am not talking about household chores. I think the dishes and the cleaning can be worked out. It's the bigger things. Guiding young men into adulthood particularly that I am talking about.
i like it best when u stick with yr own story. many men lost mightily in this battle when their women forsaked them for the paycheck and "liberation." we often didn't get it "both ways." we got it "no ways."
Oh, Ben...that is your story.
Very good post Stellaa; all three elements. Your father created a very special environment for you - lucky you. It seems to have paid off handsomely.

And I agree with Emma on this line:

"He would always say, loving your partner is anticipating what that person needs, not waiting till they tell you."

I wish this could be taught.
Stellaa, this is a great post. Your father was extraordinary - to challenge everything he knew at such a time, and to pass on his wisdom to his children, clearly not only through his words, but his actions.

WARNING - TEENY RANT COMING: Something that you hinted at in this post, and that has been bugging me throughout so many of the recent discussions regarding gender roles and feminism on OS - I am tired, tired, tired of mothers being given 100% of the blame for the ills of their children - whether it is the poor behavior of their sons or the lack of self-esteem of their daughters. Fathers are just as important to their children's development as are mothers, and play an equal role in helping their sons and daughters develop self-esteem, equalitarian values, good character, positive modes of interaction, etc. Your father clearly understood and embraced that responsibility.

On another note, regarding the wonderful photos of the rodeo father with his son - they were taken in a public space and you are fine on the permissions issue. :)

As others have said, thank you.
Fantastic photos, and a great call to arms for men.
JK, thanks.
Just Cathy, oooh, pictures of the grandson are in order.
Shivaun, that was in great part my point, fathers need to rethink their roles particularly for the benefit of their sons, daughters as well, but their seems to be a dad gap.
Sandra, yes, it should be a call to arms instead of blaming women and others all the time. I often find the typical criticism of women playing up victimhood is what ails many of the men who resist taking on some kind of change.
What a wonderful father you had, Stella! He sounds like the perfect man.
I was raised by myself after the age of 13 the year of the RAT. My mother a nut case after Dad ran off with his secretary who was half my mom's age...he had warned her, "When you turn 36 I'm trading you in on two 18 year old girls...and he did. Then he traded them in five years later...until the day he died he repeated steps one and two. Most likely for some of the reasons you expressed I was determined not to be like my Dad. Smart man, just could not heed his own advice and keep it in his pants. I have been married going on 30 years to the same woman, we have one beautiful daughter who I am proud is proud to call me Daddy. Here is a poem I wrote...for my very liberal wife and mother of my child...it is a truly feminist poem.

A Devoted Gardener of Love and Beauty
I looked upon her beauty as a flower
I hesitated to pinch her from her stem
Instead I planted myself next to her
Where I too have flourished in a sense…..

Dedicated to my wife on Mothers Day 2008

2008 ©TS
TS, lovely poem.

Now Bob, ok, you did what you wanted to do, now move on and show your fortitude on behalf of another cause.

Use your real name, don't hide behind others.
I don't know about you Stellaa but Bob seems to be a little depressed, maybe it's because He Hates Mondays....bad joke....
What I meant to say was obsessed with you...could he be suppressing his feminine side? I know you and I rarely agree but my God Bob don't blame the burning the bra for all of your problems.
This was just great Stella.

Your point about "fathers these days" is right on the mark. I am conscous of the double standard in my own marriage, and hope to do my unborn child right--I will eventually be the homemaker in our family (my wife makes most of the money and as a former latchkey kid/child of divorce, all I really want to do is tend to the home and child--I wonder if this is why I enjoy teaching?--)

Your second point just tells me that your Dad is a great man--someone to look up to.

And the picture of the Dad and son is perfect--
Bob,

I gave you your own special post, go play over there and you have a conversation.
http://open.salon.com/blog/stellaa/2009/06/21/platform_for_bob_geldofs_anger
I'm late to this post, Stellaa, but wanted to add my own thumbs-up and two-cents.

You were most fortunate in your choice of parents, especially your father. I deliberately chose not to write a Father's Day post because I couldn't come up with anything comparable to my Mother's Day post. That sort of thing doesn't really exist. My own father was more or less the opposite of yours... regarding respect for authority. He was in the military, after all, and it ruled all our lives. I was well into adulthood before I could see the kindness beneath his exterior, and that may have been only because of the influence of my step-mother.

Thanks for this great post! I absolutely loved it!!!!
A hunger for mind numbing escapism, playing and a crippling attachment to their male peer group.

That about sums it up.

Guiding young men into adulthood particularly that I am talking about.

Yippee... that's something that's missing all the way around. The lack of male mentors/role models/leaders is particularly devastating in my community. Equality means different things to different people. It's comforting to me to hear a woman recognize the importance men play in rearing sons and young males in general.

The silence and passivity of the generation of their fathers is astounding.

At this point in time, silence and passivity are merely sobering. What's truly astounding are the active ways in which my generation's fathers sabotage the future of men in general. I can only equate the commercial hip hop culture's effect on young black men to that of the 80's culture of Wall Street greed on its disproportionately paler male population. When you are steeped in a multimedia culture that reinforces your dominance and privilege (white or black), it's a hell of a rude awakening when you're presented with the notion that you indeed have to work at being an adult. And with adult privileges comes adult responsibilities.
I admire your father in more words than I can say - especially as I have come to appreicate the intellect and eloquence of his daughter. Thank you for sharing this.
Hi Stellaa, loved the piece, posted a link: http://www.progressiveinvolvement.com/progressive_involvement/
My father is a lot like your father, maybe not radical in the political or religious sense, but like your father, he watched his own mother bear the burden of raising her children on a waitresses' income (his own father was a deadbeat, philandering type who abandoned the family when the kids reached high school).

He is part of the baby boomer generation.

Like your father, mine explicitly taught me the same thing about anticipation. He has spent his adult lifetime anticipating my mother's needs and trying to teach us to do the same. (She can be a difficult personality so this lesson had to be repeated alot).

He taught me the same thing about having financial independence, about not having to rely upon another person for my survival.

He pretty much didn't pay too much attention to the feminist movement. He was too busy working and spending time with his wife and kids and encouraging all of us to get our educations and work. He wasn't much of a cook but if my mom had to work late, he was good with scrambled eggs and french toast.

I guess it is unfortunate that your experience with the men of your generation has been so negative.

When you have been blessed with a VERY good father, it takes a very long time to find the kind of partner who can measure up, I guess.
Oh Stella - that resonates. Sometimes I feel stuck between the two sides, my mom, whose burgeoning feminism made my dad crazy but inspired me, and my dad, who expected me to go to college to find a husband. Thanks for telling it like you see it. And the adorable photo too.
Wow that's so beautiful, the horse too.
You have this way of looking at things, Stellaa, and being able to distill them down into such simple truths. It is a marvelous gift - don't ever lose that.

As someone else noted, if the photos were taken in a public place then you do not need permission - you would only need a release if the photos were used in a commercial venture (to be clear, a release would be needed in a commercial use because you can see the face of the man and the baby, either of which could be easily recognized). I'm pretty sure I've got that one correct.

Your photography skills are good enough, girl - don't apologize, you shoot well. I think the most important factor is focus and lighting - you've got that down. :-D

Thumbed.
I'm coming way too late to this. (A little over the head with work last week) But this is exceptional. Explains a lot about your fearlessness.