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Stellaa
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JULY 2, 2009 1:40PM

Immigrant Pride in America

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First, let me explain.  I was never Greek enough to be a Greek, a  mixed Greek of the diaspora is suspect . Although my last name and paternal line is  Lebanese, it was not  enough to go to Lebanon.  Two generations born in Egypt, yet we were not Egyptian.  So, when time came to leave Egypt, America was the place that took us.   It was not easy, more about that story, some other time.  

My family was the kind that was ethnically cleansed from time to time.  We were like the stuff you sweep up in the kitchen in the dust pan, bits of this and that.  We managed to cling on.  My father was proud to say that in all this, not one of our family members ever fought in any wars. 

Well, there was my maternal uncle, who go inscripted into the Greek army in World War II but came home early-- a canon hit his head and survived.  Imagine how hard this man's head was, legendary.

Finally, we were swept out of Egypt, some of the last to go.  Sad for my parents till the day they died, but great for us younger ones.  

Still, when I meet Greeks, they don't fully embrace me.  Egyptians give me the once over and check me off as a "hawagat"--a European that lived in Egypt-- even though when I was nine, I told a bunch of Europeans it was good that scum like them was being thrown out of Egypt.  Egypt was for the Egyptians and they were forgeting it.  Oh, well, I am still a hawagat.

It took me many years to enjoy not being a full member of any group.  Not really any one thing, a chameleon of sorts.  

 I raised my children American with bits of ethnic color here and there.  Well, when I say Americans let me qualify this , Americans raised in Berkeley, California.  

My son at six blurted that Malcolm X was one of the founding fathers  of America, on a lake in Minnesota with   his father's side.  I  was told I should reconsider his education, I did not.  My daughter who was a two years older,  at the same reunion, asked her aunts, "which ones are lesbians, cause in a group that big there should be one at least?".  

Forty two years in America and people still ask me where I am from.  I have sort of made peace with myself.  I don't make sweeping generalizations that Europeans are more open and tolerant and Americans are closed and pathetically religious.  

I have gained the ability to not idealize any nation, or  demonize any other.  I have understood what my mother used to say," there are only two types of people in the world, no races, no religions and no nations, the good ones and the bad ones, you will spend your life trying to figure out which is which."  

During the Bush years I did worry about not being American enough and that I could have been rendered to the Egyptians if they ever wanted, so the feeling of absolute safety in being an American  did leave me.   Wrong accuasations, mistaken identity, or just because my passport said "born in Egypt" will be with me, in case someone wants to make it into an issue.  I always think of the Japanese during World War II.  

Frankly, I am not convinced that renditions will still not take place under Obama,  but, I will always  support the Center for Constitutional Rights.   (Go over there some time and give them a buck).

The safety in my American citizenship, was short lived.  

But, I do have something that I am truly proud of this 4th of July:   COSTCO.  What do you say?  Not the Constitution? Not the flag?  Not the wide open spaces?

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Costco, for me is the great equalizer.  A place that satisfies the dream of every immigrant.   When we came to America many of us  lived through shortages and periods of rationing.  

The ability to buy endless quantities of toilet paper, oil, sugar, flour and cleaning supplies. Cases of Coca Cola.  A car, a sofa,  Ralph Lauren and Levys.  What else do we need in life?  

You have convinced yourselves that we come to America for a "better life" and you immediately equate that better life with rights and freedoms.   Hell no, it's toilet paper and cleaning supplies we wanted.  There is one thing all humans share, a need for basics, well and a flat screen tv from time to time.  

 

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Freedoms get taken away.  Security and safety are passing.   But a continuous supply of basics is guaranteed in America.  The ability to walk into that warehouse with all the other immigrants from Viet Nam, India, Pakistan, Ethiopia, Mexico, Russia and yes, lots of native born Americans and haul off a cart full of supplies to store in your basement, or garage. That is America.  That is the promise of America.  Costco does it better than anyone else.  And, the company is actually one of the most ethical and better run. 

 

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If the Bush administration listened to my idea, the Iraq war would have been a cake walk.  This was my plan.  The army would march in.  

Behind the army would be builders, who would erect Costcos for lets say each 150,000 population cluster.  Along with the cluster, each family would get 1,000 dollars for shopping at Costco.

 I assure you the frigin insurgency would not have happened.  Think how much cheaper this solution would have been?  

 

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Ahh, one family, two cart loads at Costco.  Ready for anything.  Freedom from buying one bottle, or roll at a time.  Freedom from the tyranny of daily shopping.  Your kids, satisfied with plenty of nibbles.  Meat, meat, and more meat.  

The Soviet promise  was really a Costco, but they never delivered.   Big, uniformed and satisfying.  Who needs ten brands of toilet paper?  Two are enough, but lots of rolls-- 42 rolls in one package.   Costco is the ultimate promise to the citizenry of a nation.  Freedom to buy large quantities of basics.  

Now, during the depression, aka recession ,or economic crisis,  we still can go into Costco and fullfill the promise.  The promise of a house stocked with toilet paper, olive oil and detergent.  Thank you America, thank you Costco.  

(You must learn to pronounce it correctly:  "Kostkoo". )  

 

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Stellaa this is a very interesting perspective. Rated for your POV.
Love this piece. Howled (almost literally) at this: "My daughter who was a two years older, at the same reunion, asked her aunts, 'which ones are lesbians, cause in a group that big there should be one at least?'." Fortunately, my office door was closed at the time.
Unlike Walmart, however, Costco is closed on July 4 (at least in Fort Worth). Great post with a unique and very interesting perspective.
Stellaa, I think you're right. Costco, I mean Costkoo, is the solution to all the world's problems!
Habeas corpus? So what. But take away our right to a 16-roll pak of Charmin? We'll hit the streets. Spot on, Stellaa.
When you get right down to it, Stellaa, unless you're Native American we're ALL immigrants or descended from immigrants.

Glad you came. :-D
Stellaa, fascinating to see Costco as part of the tapestry here. I will be keeping that in mind during my once a week shopping trips there.
Very interesting take on this subject, Stellaa. I particularly like what you say about the Soviet promise. That makes a lot of sense.

Personally, Costcoo scares me a little. It is so big and generic. Looking at a giant freezer full of dead fish and realizing it is just one of thousands like it makes me feel that the oceans are empty..well they are likely.

You and your children have a unique perspective on the world. Thanks for sharing it here.
Teehee! I KNOW what you mean! Great post!
By coincidence, I am going to the great Costco today. They pay their people right and provide health benefits. They also stock green toilet paper so you don't destroy old growth forests with every wipe of the ass. monkey fingered.
You know? I admire your background. What a priceless set of pearls to be able to see such a diverse set of perspectives. Me? As long as i don't have to move back to Oklahoma, I'll be happy, although the do have Kostkoo there too, but they pronounce it "Coausca" and they have no need to buy their wine at Coausca.

They make their own alcihole and call it whaitlaitnin. Just ask Noahe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmTJ021SP-w&NR=1
I always knew there was a capitalist underneath all that left-wing ideology. There always is.
Nicely done! Your family history is fascinating, and I especially appreciate your take on "why immigrants come here".

I also love that you were clearly raising children straight from "Our Bodies, Our Selves"!
As Anthony Quinn once said in character, "the difference between us is you wipe your ass with paper, we use rocks."

Costco, the TP capital of the universe, is always full of immigrants, even if the City of Berkeley would never allow the construction of one.

Also, you may have left Berkeley but lets be clear about the fair city: A HUGE AMOUNT OF WHAT WE NOW TAKE FOR GRANTED CAME FROM B-TOWN. I was tear-gassed and beaten there, at 10 years old, but oh how times have changed thanks to our smart smart smart Berkeley cousins. Right on.
Never been to a Costco. But those wine bottles got my attention.
Surfer, yes to B-town. I only left now 6 months.

JK, Costco is big, but for some reason, it does not have a generic feeling. I do buy my meat and produce locally, it's that stuff, that I buy at Costco.

McGarret, is it capitalism we want, or just the ability to have toilet paper on demand?
Mr. Mustard, no only wine, you can find all manner of wonderful things, in large quantities.

Boomer, no wine at Costco? No beer? Why in god's name would you live in OkieHoma.

Owl, it was hard for me to not laugh, after seeing the midwestern auntie faces.

Steve, right on, Costco celebrates the holiday.

You see, Wall Mart has been imitated the world over. There are Wall mart look alikes in Europe, Mexico, Middle East Asia, but, they cannot do the Costco experience. Only in America do we have the land mass and the volume. Also all the small businesses and all the PTA events.
A timely post for me. A few nights ago, Costco announced the opening of their first of three stores in Australia.
I just ate a wonderful peach from Costco. And for staples like toilet paper, it's the best. Happy Fourth of July!
Americans are pathetically religious compared to what, Egyptians? Do they still worship cats or have they moved on to Islam?
Orville, do you know you can buy mega boxes of your stuff at Costco? Europeans tend to think all Americans are super religious.
I bow before this brilliance. If only you had been consulted during the war planning strategy, so many lives (on both sides) would have been preserved. I'm not kidding.

At one time I lived in the Caribbean for years on end and the one thing that really freaked me out when I returned to civilization was the grocery stores. So much available, and the prices seemed to be nothing compared to what I was used to. For a while my trips to the grocery store took a long time simply because I was in a trance like state gazing at the veritable land of plenty before me. I assure you that in such a state the idea to destroy the providers of this abundance would have been the last thing on my mind.

There is still time to inject this culture of materialism and bulk buying power to the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. It's not too late. Obama, if you are reading OS, lets see some action here!
," there are only two types of people in the world, no races, no religions and no nations, the good ones and the bad ones, you will spend your life trying to figure out which is which."

That is true wisdom
Ablonde, you get it, you get it. The absolute sublime nirvana quality of Costco. I tell you, the human struggle is not about freedom of speech, habeas corpus, it's about a never ending supply of toilet paper.

Chicago guy, yes, my mother was simple, but to the point. This kind of wisdom we now look for in experts, when people have these experiences.
I'm never going to look at Kostkoo quite the same way again. That is a good thing. Happy 4th Stellaa.
Costco is the source. 1.75 liter of Jim Beam - $19.99. Amen
Belonging is overrated, sometimes comfy but at such a price. Funny how we spend years wishing that we did, then one day (or however long it takes) thank our stars that we didn't. Your lesbian aunt (yes, everyone should have one but I only had two aunts and one was a Mormon) would be proud of you. We have Ikea in Turkey (cause it has snob appeal here) but not Costco. Probably cause they'd call it "Jost-jo," for a while at least.
Stellaa, congrats on the cover and thanks so much for the extraordinary peace. I howled with laughter. I have long maintained that if we'd end the embargo against Cuba in the interest of free enterprise eg selling Levy jeans, Castro would rapidly be relegated to that dusty pantheon of old heroes.
Rated!
Ain't freedom great!!!!!!!?!?!?!

Rated
It sounds like you practice the same religion I do:

http://www.opensalon.com/blog/noisynora/2009/01/11/you_practice_your_religion_ill_practice_mine
You have described my own feelings about Costco so well. Thank you for making me realize that it is something all Americans, wherever they come from and however long they've been here, can share!

Also, I am so sorry for this: "so the feeling of absolute safety in being an American , did leave me." That is so not what we're supposed to be about. I am saddened that anyone here is made to feel that way.
Best patriotic piece I have read in years-what a hoot! You started my holiday weekend off right. No Cost-coo in my town though....sigh.
I want to go to Costco now, but there isn't one nearby.

Nicely put, Stellaa.

Rights and freedoms can be taken away. As for Costco, that's not going to be taken away or go anywhere unless a big box company buys it.
Costco is the epitome of the American dream all right! Just about anything you want at better prices than elsewhere plus a staff which ignores you better than just about any other place of business.
This post makes a valid point, though. Costco is a great equalizer. Look in the parking lot and you'll see old cars, new cars, beaters & beemers--it's as egalitarian as you'll find (moreso than Walmart).
One of my favorite Costcos is the one in Hayward, CA. It's incredibly "international" in its customer base, filled with all manner of "nationalities" and languages but with everyone buying the same types of products as those of us most aptly described in California as gringos. And, all of us have forked over our $45 annual fee.
Great post Stellaa!
Walter, Walter, I have been to the Hayward Costco. I love it.

Wow, so great to see a post we can all agree on.

I used to love going to Costco for PTA/fundrasing events. Hot Dogs and drinks for 500? No problem.
When I was a kid, we hosted teenage exchange students from Denmark and Norway. One of the first big "American Moments" for these kids was a trip to the cereal aisle of the local grocery store. They were rendered completely mute - an entire aisle of nothing but different types of cereal!

Rated :)
All across America, there are closets full of stuff people will never use.....much duplicate stuff....thanks for a great post Stellaa.rated
Kind of reminds me of something Andy Rooney once said. The answer to getting more recruits for the Armed Forces was to give each volunteer a Chrysler LaBaron. Restore profitability to Chrysler, and get more Army recruits.
Gary, whenever people say Americans have no savings I say, they sure do, look at their basements, their savings are in stock of consumables.
Stellaa, that's a good way of putting it...look around any small town, or big one for that matter on a weekend, and you will see the exchange of many, many goods......the prices for things sometimes extruded after the processes of use, but folks have a great deal of stuff.

I was at a house of a middle class family last year.....they had closets full of goods........piles, sports equipment, appliances (box fresh), tools, office items, toys....when they needed something, they just bought another item even though they had 5-6 of the same thing under the piles, not used.

Imagine the scale of a system of distribution where folks like this would deliver those extra items to agencies and institutions where the goods could be sold or give to families in need. Yes, sometimes savigs can manifest in goods....sort of by default. thanks for the discussion. BTW, I like Procopius's comment very much.
Procopius and Gary,

Well, I thought they were giving educational grants.
Costco rocks (even though I rarely go. I don't own a car, and live next to one of the greatest farmers markets on the continent. But I get why it's so great for everyone else.)

A good company that treats its employees fairly. But what I love best is not just the bulk basics, but the little treasures mixed in. The cut rate amazing luggage. The awesome designer clothes. It's the mixture of basics and occasional luxuries. It's not all sweat shop made crap. It's how people should shop and live.

I'm proud of YOU Stellaa, for getting it right so often.
Stellaa: We're going to Costco today after taking a hike up in Folsom (there are Costcos all around here, couple in Sac, one in Folsom, Roseville). Another great thing about Costco is that they treat their workers much better than Walmart (better wages, good health care, partial unionization, though there is some controversy about some stands the company has taken lately in that regard). We love us some Kostkoo.
Juliet, I buy all my produce from local farmers, but it's the other stuff. What I like is that Costco stood up to Wall Street and did not capitulate to the "expectations" and all the crap they want in terms of cost cutting etc

Ha..ha Sactogator, just figured out your name. You are from Sacatomotoes.
I love Costco! You're right, it is the Land of Plenty... sometimes I go in there, not to buy anything, but just to walk around and look at everything in there. It's great to be able to buy a tree, a couple of books, and the family's dinners for a whole week, all from the same store. I think that where I live, more people go to Costco than go to church! (Well, I am never bored in a Costco, lol.) Quantity is a "quality" that we Americans appreciate very much.
Loved this, love CostCo, love your hard-headed uncle, your statistically minded daughter, love YOU. xo
"I have gained the ability to not idealize any nation, or demonize any other." yes, that is exactly the gift of not belonging to any nation while growing up- it's a high price, but worth it, I think :) Love this post, and you Stellaa, you are so American, in all good ways
Stellaa, You are on funny girl when you want to be. This was fantastic and entertaining to read. I LOVE your plan for the Iraqi War. THAT plan would work anywhere. It worked here in America, Didn't it? And your Mother was a very wise woman.
Happy Fourth to you and your family, Stellaa.
Here I have lived my progressive life with bits of guilt because of my affection to COSTCO.
I must say their employees must like the place; they are the same faces I have seen for the past 15 years.
At any rate thanks for the post I loved it and identified with it in sooo many ways, no more guilt.
Stellaa, I am proud to share my local Costco with someone who understands the true greatness of our beloved country. The only Costco I know of that shares a parking lot with that flagship of the "other" America: Trader Joes.

After so many years in Berkeley, it must be a shock to have lost your natural air conditioning. The last couple of weeks up here have been a little, uh, warm...not like Egypt, though.
I love this! I will never go into a Costco again without thinking about your post!
I spend more money at Costco than anywhere else. The three stores in town are all on the north end (where there is more money), so it's a little drive, but it's worth it. There's a large Sikh population in the northwest part of town, buying items for their tiny neighborhood markets. That's the one I shop.
Stellaa, I think I love you. I think I love your family too. And due to the fact I sometimes need enough tampons to stop Niagra Falls, I love Costco. Thank you for this.
Everyone who commented should print a copy of this great post, including the comments, and take it to their favourite Costco. I too love the store, the people who work there, and the management. When friends of mine who complain about the lines, I tell them that people watching in those lines is the greatest free entertainment they could possibly find anywhere!
Absolutely great post, Stellaa and so true. Piles of pajamas, mountains of meat and tons of T.P. - that's America to me!
Loved your perspective..Where was Laura Bush or even Barbara pushing their carts.? Ya think?
My daughter who was a two years older, at the same reunion, asked her aunts, "which ones are lesbians, cause in a group that big there should be one at least?"

Ahahahaha. Stellaa, darling, love it.

Your take on the Costco phenomenon is interesting. Although I find such places pretty soulless--is it any wonder Soviet-style, command-economy Communism came to be despised for the same reasons?--I can understand what effect it must have on those who've only experienced deprivation in their lives. Costco represents a uniquely Western consumerist pattern--America after all isn't the only country in the West with such a store concept. In fact, the 'hypermarket' itself was invented by the French! (Oh, Carrefour...)

Anyway, I hear the same thing in Europe all the time. To many an immigrant the conspicuous consumption patterns of Westerns are mind-boggling, even in comparatively frugal societies such as Germany and France (as compared to the UK and US).
Gary, whenever people say Americans have no savings I say, they sure do, look at their basements, their savings are in stock of consumables.

Oh, and on this small debate here, I'd say that economically speaking those appliances aren't really the best way to invest one's savings. Appliances depreciate heavily in value upon first purchase, and even if they're box-fresh they don't sustain their value. Few manufactured products do, and some lose that value at logorithmic rates. (I'm thinking of cars and computers in particular.)

Only the finest products sustain value in the long run. So, a classic, nicely-kept Jaguar (not like the relatively rubbish models they created post-Ford buy-out)...or much better still: Rolex watches. It was widely reported in the European press that Icelanders snapped up Rolex watches at the height of their financial crisis these past 12-18 months. As the value of their currency plummeted, effectively bankrupting the country (which is another story altogether), many folks liquidated their savings in favour of currency-proof products, such as Rolex watches. I think that's brilliant foresight right there. :)

Anyway, yeah, Costco products aren't high-end enough (put differently: not very unique, and held hostage to the whims of the market) to constitute an effective saving, sadly.
From one "hawgawt" to another, I salute you, stellaa. Thankfully,Kostkoo is open today. I think I'll go there and buy you a big cake. You can invite Freaky. Really great post! Fesseh hettuk.
Friggin' brilliant. Happy Fourth.
Great! Esp your kids at the reunion! Right on!
Your idea to end the insurgency was spot on also. Just think of how despots and religious nutcases decry the American commercialism. It's all about the basics.
I think I dated your maternal uncle once. Or maybe it was his son. Does hard-headnedness run in the family?
nice.

i have no costco nearby, so i get most of my groceries at the evil Sam's Club (part of walmart). my little bro gives me shit for it, but it's the only way i can afford to stay full. i considered adding them to the acknowledgments of my book: "this book also made possible by giant packs of cheap groceries at Sam's."

never having to ration the toilet paper is a great relief--because i too get it in rolls of 36.

i don't know about costco, or other cities, but it amazes me how few white people shop at Sam's. the one i shop at is about a mile south of downtown denver, with a latino neighborhood off to one side, filling maybe 1/3 of its prime radius, and white people 2/3. (probably much more, since the whiter area includes tons of apartment buildings.) the clientele is well over 90% latino. hmmmmm. and the Albertson's supermarket a stone's throw away is pretty mixed. the Homo Depot deeper into latinoland is mostly white.

seems like the whities are missing out on a good deal.

is it like this elsewhere?
I was given a membership to Costco years ago, but when they took my photo my blonde (at the time) hair made me look like just two eye sockets and nostrils on the card...so I never went back. Big mistake I see.

I never thought much about it, but my passport and birth certificate show me born in Japan...gulp.

I loved this Stellaa, always interesting here.
"Behind the army would be builders, who would erect Costcos for lets say each 150,000 population cluster. Along with the cluster, each family would get 1,000 dollars for shopping at Costco."
I think you may have just resolved not only the Iraq War, but the problem of human existence.
Love this! Happy Fourth to you!
Great Post Stellaa! And so true too: everything from the not fitting in Egypt to the Costco here! I have lived in the ex-USSR and have had relatives visiting from there in France, and although we do not have any Costcos, we do have huge sueprmarkets that brought tears to their eyes.
I'm still chuckling.
Fiscal stimulus: $787Billion
The war in Iraq: $1Trillion
Stellaa: Priceless
Stellaa - I loved hearing about your history, and your very-original observations about Kostkoo gave me my best laugh of the morning. I'm wondering in all seriousness what might have happened if we had opened some Costcos in Iraq? We certainly spent enough money to build and stock a few stores. Highly rated.
Interesting how you mix the critical analysis of what it means to be Ameican in terms of personal identity alongside what is essentially a reflection of what the American dream is. After all Marie Antionette said 'let them eat cake', so who has the wool pulled over their eyes?

The simple reality is that America is the world's cultures in a nutshell.
I read a story once that Yeltsin, then president to the Soviet republic of Russia, talked about "communism with a human face" (kind of like compassionate conservatism?) until he went to a grocery store in America on a trip. It was an ordinary American supermarket and he started buttonholing the average Americans shopping there to prove that they were really some sort of American high level apparatchik, not the housewives and students they claimed to be.

His aide said after that trip, he never again talked communism with a human face. Just possibly, the end of communism in Russia happened because a Russian communist party member went to an American supermarket.

I goggle at them on my trips home.