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OCTOBER 22, 2009 1:36PM

Healthcare Reform : "Robust Public Option" .

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Back to Healthcare. Where are we? 

The Senate Finance Committee (the Baucus Plan) released the proposed bill on October 19th with official name and everything: America's Healthy Future Act, AHFC, all 1,252 pages.  This will not be the final version because remember there is a version in the House and there is a version in another Senate Committee, HELP.  Reid will have to put together a combined bill.  Baucus still does not support a public option, Reid is saying he likes a public option, but I have no idea how hard he is pushing.  

Well, lets put it this way, Reid is no Pelosi.   

I confess I am not a great play by play person of the political game.  If you want that some people at Firedoglake are doing a great job and Big Tent Democrat at Talk Left .  

In the House, Nancy Pelosi, "the Democratic Leader with balls and guts", is moving on the robust public option, which may be renamed Medicare +5%.  Turns out the darn thing will cost less and get more American people covered, go figure.  Her plan is that this will convince the Blue Dogs, you know the Democarts in name only, since they claim that "fiscal conservatism" is their number one issue.  

There are 52 Blue Dogs and the counting between Nancy and the Democratic Whip, James Clyburn,  is that 12 will vote for the Robust Option.  But, we also have those who oppose the use of public funds because it will pay for abortion.  

You see, we cannot do something without clipping the choices women are entitled to have by our laws.  We have to have caveats and whereases when it comes to women.  Marginalizing their citizenship and their rights at every step.   Put burkas on them, put restrictions, tell them what choices they can or cannot make.  Always, a diminished citizenship.    We defer to the preachers and priests tell us what rights women can have.  I wonder if they will pay for viagra ?  

What is this cost savings in the Robust Option?   Basically, it will reimburse doctors at the Medicare rates, plus 5%.  This option will save the US government about $100 Billion.  Imagine that, negotiating prices will save us money.  

I like it cause it uses an existing system and no need to spend globs of money adding a new system that will take time and create another set of complexities.  

Just in case you think competition and the availability of more Doctors and services reduces prices, check out the Dartmouth Study that basically indicates precisely the opposite.  Also, the availability of more services does not mean better health care.  Counter intuitive?  Yes.  The propaganda of more and more services meaning better health care has worked.   If you do not have the inclination or time to read the study, here is a great episode from This American Life, that lays it out really well.  

Look, this is not my ideal, but it acknowledges two things, prices will not go down without a public option, or some effort at negotiating and lowering costs.  

All the European systems that are praised for managing costs, have two things in common:  price controls,  and regulating the insurance companies.  We need to understand one thing, that the ideas of free market economics does not work when it comes to Healthcare.   

By the way, the House  is moving to repeal the insurance company exemption from the Federal Anti Trust laws.   Good move guys, about time.  

Free Market Economics, as we saw in the economic collapse, has many flaws.  We need to cut the sugar coating and face it.   Greenspanism and Reaganism failed and are continuing to fail.  (By the way, you must watch the Frontline documentary The Warning)  To have an economy and a society that will serve its citizens and thrive, we must manage aspects of the economy, healthcare is one of those aspects.   How would  privatizing fire and police protection look?   Face it, pure communism and pure capitalism failed.  

My scoring for this week, Nancy gets the "Democrat with Balls and guts award".  The Senate boys and two girls, other than Rockefeller are still not showing any balls, or guts.  

The President, well, I don't know, we don't know.  It's all behind the scenes and lots of hints and gyrations.  When will he come out and stand for an option?  He needs to throw his leadership behind one of the options.   Rahm is out and about and working the various people, but what is he really pushing for, no clue.  

The Republicans as far as I can tell, shot their collective wads over the summer break and now the American people are for the public option. Way to go guys, try some linger longer next time.  A CBS poll has it as high as 62%.   

Why are the Senators being such patsies for the insurers and the big pharmas?  Well, take a  look at how well their friends did with the Medicare Prescription give away, remember the adding prescriptions but prohibiting the negotiating of prices, this is from Pro Publica:  

  • "Six years ago, a group of lawmakers and aides crafted Medicare Part D, the prescription drug program for seniors that has produced billions of dollars of profits for pharmaceutical companies.
  • Today, at least 25 of those key players are back, but this time they’re lobbyists, trying to persuade their former colleagues to protect the lucrative system during the health care reform negotiations.
  • The role of big players like Billy Tauzin — the former Republican representative from Louisiana who is now president of PhRMA, the drug industry’s lobbying group — has been long understood. 
  • But a ProPublica analysis shows that the drug industry’s position is also being promoted by other foot soldiers from the Part D legislative process, from committee aides to top Bush administration officials."

 All the gallant late night speeches about free markets and competition , all the rejection  of any reform and  all the "no votes" will be lucrative to the Republicans, Blue Dogs and some of the collaborating Democrats.  

So, keep your eye on the prize and push your Congressmen this week. Particularly you guys with Blue Dogs.    

 

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I will be taking nominations for Dems with guts and balls,  " Yellow dog coward Blue Dogs" and "Greedy bastid" Republicans looking to line their pockets.   

 

 

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The Dems finally read Lakoff and changed the name to Medicare E. Which, incidentally, I've been saying for weeks.
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This changes on a day to day basis. Rated for lucidity.
Like many people before you, you have blamed the economic collapse on pure capitalism - and this is a mistake.

The fact is you, in the United States, under Bush (I or II), Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower...whoever, were not living in a capitalist system. You'd been living in a corporatist system, and there is a difference.

Capitalism...pure capitalism...has yet to be tried, instead what America has had is the collusion of government and corporations to make policy, and administer law.

Everyone has lived under the illusion of democracy, thinking that by going to the polls every four years, they are directly affecting a change. When in fact, all society has been run by a forever-revolving door of politicians and CEOs - to the detriment of everyone on 'Main Street'.

Free market economics...if given a chance to actually work, free of government intervention...will solve the health care crisis, and the economic crisis. The problem is, in order to institute that change it would require a period of unbelievable hardship - to allow the false system that has been built to collapse in on itself, and to build anew. Because politicians know this...they are not willing to forgo their 'political careers', and do what is right...instead they would rather propagate the popular myth to the American people that the only way out of this mess is to continue throwing good money after bad.

It's unfortunate that you don't seem to see through this delusion either.
Kenneth, read Greenspan's memoir and read up about his actions. A more pure marketeer was never in charge of an economy. Free market economics was given a chance. Greenspan was an Ayn Rand pupil, libertarian to the teeth and core. Free market god.

By the way, this is a post about the healthcare reform, the fantasmical powers of free market capitalism are not my concern, they have been proven to be wrong and dangerous.

Now, back to healthcare. Read the Dartmouth study to show you how competition destroys our medical care by increasing procedures and services. If you choose to believe in the tooth fairy, purity of capitalism and communism, go ahead, but let's stop with the "it never worked cause it never got a chance".

Greenspan was its chance. Greenspan even blamed his beliefs in the intelligence and the purity of the free markets.
I liked this. It brought me back up to speed. I just wish, wish, wish that a public system could be created using a payroll tax capped somewhere around a million dollars. Public, it just seems to me, is the only way to go where we will have an opportunity to make sure that everyone is provided for. Thanks Stellaa.
Healthcare should be under the sole control and authority of the Government, with absolutly no "option" for private corporations. Why? Take a look at the history of New York.
Fire departments used to compete with eachother. This led to fire departments committing acts of arson.
Does this mean it should have no oversight, or that we should create it without a funding scheme? Of course not.
Fund it with a luxury tax on currently illegal substances such as pot. They just made a huge bust out in CA and all I could think is, look at all that lost revenue! There's posts on that subject elsewhere on Salon but you get my point.
There needs to be 100% Gov run healthcare, period. Insofar as free markets are concerned, we need them for other stuff, like gun companies and the Transformers.
Rated.
Thanks for the update. While there was plenty of coverage of the town hall madness -- I have not seen a loud, visible show of support for the public option, although polls show that a majority would like to see it. Is this just because people figure the Dems are in charge and will take care of it? Obviously that's not the case. I agree with John blumenthal - the Dems are always late on how to frame an issue.
Great post, Stella. I think you are all on top of it. (And yes, I did watch "The Warning." Incredible. Brooksley Born is my new hero.)
Great overview of where things are at Stellaa. And I'm with you on putting Pelosi on the "guts and balls" list; I'm not a huge fan of hers, but she's showing more moxie on this than anybody in the Senate, Rockefeller and a couple others excepted. Speaking of which, when did the House, a body which I always viewed as the retarded cousin of the Senate, become the people we have to count on for important decisions? It's bizarro world these days....
When communism was on its last legs in the 1980s, there were still a few people insisting that it makes sense for toothpaste to be manufactured by the government and planned centrally. The evidence was there for all to see, but they still said what they said. They were sacrificing both price, quality, and the good of the ordinary person on the altar of ideological purity.

We are seeing the same now with health care in the US. The involvement of the private sector in health insurance means that you are sacrificing incredible amounts of money on the altar of ideological purity.

I'm not actually clear on whether things are better here in Hong Kong, the spiritual home of capitalism. I have private health insurance from my employer with caps on the amount that can be spent on different things in a year. I could go bankrupt from health problems. It just isn't a political issue.
Somewhere in the Bible it talks about the rich throwing their gold and silver in the streets in the time of famine & desease. All the facist in Congress thinking that they are saving money in a time of the Flu from Hell, this H1xxx, Sards, Bird Flue, and AIDS are fools. WE need a Public Option so that those who have these afflictions can get treatment in a timely manner and not overload the emergecy rooms. Right now the only National Health WE have is the hospital emergecy room or for mental health, the local drug dealer.
Steve, I completely agree, I usually do not like the term, but with her, she is one of the few. I knew so many women in public service with that kind of pedigree and fortitude.

I want the clip of Greenspan sycophanting Ayn Rand. He was basically an extremist and was left to do this stuff without any checks. Disturbing.

@Mathew, may I use your expression: "The involvement of the private sector in health insurance means that you are sacrificing incredible amounts of money on the altar of ideological purity". That is precisely what is going on.

@Nate, Nancy is redeeming herself, she is putting up a fight.

@Alice, glad to see you, some people call it 11 dimensional chess, I just know I prefer clarity, "you with it or against it?".

@Walter, I write these to keep myself focused, it's a bit of a selfish exercise.

@Mary, we need the best options for the people, the corporations will take care of themselves.
Our Blue Dog supports the public option and has for months. We have thanked him a million times and ways so he cannot possibly go back on it.

Thanks, Stellaa.
@waking, go your blue dog. I thank your blue dog.
By all means, use my expression. I hereby issue a free license to all.
"All the European systems that are praised for managing costs, have two things in common: price controls, and regulating the insurance companies. We need to understand one thing, that the ideas of free market economics does not work when it comes to Healthcare."

Precisely. Health care has never been a free market and never will be. In a truly free market, there is no licensing, no certification, no drug patents, no restrictions on who calls himself or herself a nurse or doctor. Providing health care becomes like growing broccoli, which nobody wants. With the current oligopoly, there must be some mechanism to lower prices, and you've identified the options.

If we don't get a public option now, we will get it eventually. Rising prices will force the system in that direction, as thay have in all European countries except those that have tightly -- and I mean TIGHTLY -- controlled the insurance industry.
Thanks for this overview Stellaa!