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OCTOBER 29, 2009 12:07PM

Pelosi: Historic Healthcare Bill Announcement (Updated)

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Watch the video of Nancy Pelosi announcing the House Bill with Public Option.  

 
(sorry for the advert) 

Here is the actual Affordable Healthcare Act  .  

The work is not done.  There are still negotiations and deals that will be made.  We still have to meld with the Senate bill.  But remember the House Bill is more aggressive and provides more to us, the beneficiaries.  

(this is just happening, but Wakinupslowly think people should take notice. )

Highlights:   

 

  • This Bill does not include the Robust, Medicare +5% which would have saved more money since the prices of the services would be negotiated.   
  • The main revenue sources in the House bill include a surcharge on wealthy taxpayers and changes to Medicaid and Medicare worth about $500 billion in cost savings over 10 years, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.
  • The Bill would cover 36 million new people. 
  • No-pre existing exclusions. 
  • End of the anti trust exemption for insurance companies. 
  • End the double standard on covering women, gender rating will be eliminated.   
  • It would allow children to stay on parents insurance till they are 27 years old.  
  • The age surcharge will not be the 5 times of the base as in the Senate but only 2 times.  
  • A surtax on individuals earning more than $500,000 or couples earning more than $1,000,000.  (yes, new taxes).  The Senate would tax cost insurance policies.  (this does not make sense).  
  • Deficit neutral (I need to check on this and what it means).  
  • Remember right now the unemployed, got a bit of help to cover their COBRA during unemployment, that subsidy is running out.  This bill would cover people during periods of unemployment.   

 

What are the Republicans  saying (remember yesterday there was a poll that 72% of Americans, think the Republicans are basically worthless) 

But Republicans quickly dismissed the bill as an attempted government takeover of healthcare and said Democrats who back the health measure will pay a price at the polls next November. "The lasting image coming out of today's press conference is one of dozens of House Democrats standing proudly behind an incredibly unpopular Nancy Pelosi as she prepares to lead them off a political cliff," said Ken Spain, spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee. 

 

 

Bohener, your teabag ploy did not work, the American people in polls are 62% for a public option. If people still doubt evolution, look at this dinosaur. Lying about the cuts to seniors. (If anyone needs a name change)

Lynn Woolsey, Progressive caucus co-chair, and my Congresswoman, from the Nation:

Woolsey and other progressive Democrats are set to meet with President Obama Thursday.

"He needs to hear from us that he needs to support the public option,'' Woolsey told the Los Angeles Times. "He's not saying it loud enough. We want to make sure he lets the Senate know he wants a public option in the bill." 

 

Ok, this is so brilliant.  The Republicans in the Senate  have been complaining that the Democrats need to put up the Bill 72 hours before it will be up for vote.  The Democrats have committed to doing so.  Watch Boehner  do a wiggle dance when asked about the alleged Republican plan:  

 

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I'm on it. Well, not on the actual video as I'm not exactly there, but I am watching it, for the second time.
Heh, you are here. This is so exciting, finally. I know...I know it's not single payer etc, but, we will get the camel's nose in the tent.
Heh, waking, this was fun, we did it as it happened. I feel like Clark Kent's sidekick, (cub reporter).

OS, where we all can pretend to be reporters. LOL
The Repubs have it so wrong -- if they stop healthcare reform they will be absolutely creamed in 2010.
john, I agree, they are so out of touch. I am hoping the President will step in and take a position towards a strong public option.
Stellaa, you left out a few things. First of all, the 500 billion in cost saving from Medicare is actually a cut in payments to doctors and hospitals.

Also,
Employers would be required to offer health insurance to workers
Employers will pay fines for not offering health insurance
Americans will be fined for not purchasing insurance coverage (no word yet on enforcement)
Subsidies will be provided to poor people who can't afford health insurance
Insurance companies will not be able to discriminate against older people or pre-existing conditions
A government option will be available to "compete" with the private sector.

Anyone who thinks this will be deficit neutral need to look no further than Medicare and Medicaid.

This is simply another social program that is doomed to fail.
To comment on blackflon, if we got out of Iraq, we could more than pay for any healthcare package, and we could still reduce the defecit.
So, can the wimps in the private sector not "compete" with the government? Right now there is no competition.

No it is not a cut in Medicare. Its a lie. I will post a detailed post on that. Anyway, seniors get 38% of all social programs, time to share.

Blackflon, all the things you mention have been tinkered, you are stuck in an older version.

Yes, subsidies will be provided cause we already pay for it. It's called healthcare not "we wait till you gonna almost die to help you".

Yeah, it's a social program because we are a society. It's not another war, which would be easier for you guys to buy into the cost.
Yay!!! Great reporting Stellaa - I may get to have that baby after all!
This is a huge step in the right direction and I think maybe it's the Republicans that will take a hit next year. I suppose we could lose a couple seats here or there and their evil tactics have worked in the past. Well just have to see, but I don't see them being overwhelmingly popular either.
I just hope the bill doesn't get watered down any more than it already is, but I know that it will. I would like to see the regulatory exemption taken away from big insurance, too.
Let's see...we're a representative democracy...so a government takeover means the people are taking charge...refusing to surrender a fundamental right to big business...just as we don't need our own easements to cross America...just as we are educated by government entities (dubious in certain instances)...just as we may assemble and speak without fear of reprisal (unless we perform legal abortions)...just as...

If you believe as John Boehner does, then you are in favor of a 30% skim going to pencil pushers. And I thought talent/booking agents were excessive. Geesh.

Hooray for the nose of the camel, the Democratic caucus in the House, Stellaa, and waking. (rated+++++)
to divine Stellaa - perhaps awl of youse will just take REPREHENSIBLE GRAYSON's advice and "DIE QUICKLY"???!!! Here is hoping youse slaves/serfs in OBAMALAND languish in torment and do not annoy da rest of da world wid youse STOOPID ASS INSURANCE SHITOLA!!! youse moist devotud hemidemisemiquavered obeissante sirvante 'my-prick-is-just-an-extension-of-my-tv-clicker' lefty PHILLIE slider regards zaj[but does it have a remote button?] Ha.
The DCCC is looking for your support to help push this thing along. A number of actions are available here: http://dccc.org/pages/health_care_grassroots_action.

It ain't Medicare For All (HR676), but it is indeed the camel's nose nudging at the door. Help push that door open!
awesome. I'm glad I read it here first. I know there's further to go but this is good news.
If I ever make anywhere near 500,000 a year, I will happily give more of it to the government so our children and sick Americans have quality, affordable healthcare.

The only thing that worries me is requiring everyone to have healthcare. I don't think the government can require that by law. A lot of families can't afford healthcare. That's the whole point.
What a relief it is to see the 'camel's nose in the tent.'

Yesterday my husband got a fat envelope from Regence Blue Shield that upped his Medicare supplemental insurance 76% or $113 more each month, and increased his copays all over the place and increased the out of pocket maximum $500. In other words, if he was hospitalized we would be liable for one boatload more money. Fuck them, he's changing to Group Health. So he paid into medicare since the mid 1960's, He pays $96.80 every month for Part B so these Republicant asshats can kiss me where the sun doesn't shine with their foot dragging about health care reform.

Last year my premium would have changed from $312 to $397 but I changed the plan to a lesser level of coverage and added dental. It's crazy but if I have to review plans every year to manage my health care expenses, that is what I will do to try and stay ahead of their greed the best way that I can, by taking my money where it counts. I have private insurance, so I am already paying at the highest rate because I am not in an employer sponsored plan.

Let's hope they improve the bill and protect us from these greedy bastids!
Too little.

HR 676 Medicare for All.

As you know, this is just more windfall for the insurance corporations even though they rail against it. Behind closed doors they lick their chops and rub their hands together at the billions they will reap from this heap of bullshit.

E tu, democrats?

And don't expect Obama to come out for robust "public option." He has been trying to torpedo it in favor for triggers for weeks now.
Wow... maybe, just maybe the umpty gazillion emails we've been sending actual got read! W00t!!!!!
I hope it turns out successfully. I'm so sick of having to "fight" off the Republican vultures that seem to challenge me on every comment or video I post on Facebook. I just hope I don't have to eat hay.
I'm sure the Republicans will put their plan up in time. How long does it take them to type "Put your trust in God"?
Norwonk, that is what I was thinking, they will do a five pager like TARP. Yes, it's a major law, morons, it's 1500 pages, it's not a five page essay.
Camel's foot, maybe.

Stellaa, I admire your diligence in all this and especially with going to posts done by rightists and responding to them, responding to their "points" (and, of course, here in your own blog). It all exhausts me (and, thank god, it's not even my concern, being Canadian).
This is getting VERY interesting. Thanks for the summary. I'd heard bits and pieces. Excellent distillation.
to divine Stella - yeah 1900+ pages of major DEMBHOLE-DOUCHESBAG BULLSHIT summ law from the partee of SHITFOOK 'theOBAMA' - my advice is still for awl of youse to DIE QUICKLY avoid the endless MARXIST march to mediocrity/nothingness!!! youse moist obeissante humbled hemisemidemiquavered 'my-pick-is-jes-an-extension-of-my-tv-clicker' lefty slider PHILLIE beisbol regards zaj[but does it have a 'mute' button on it?] Ha.