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I watched an entire episode of The O’Reilly Factor for the first time last week.  It was an eye opening experience for me, not so much because of what I saw and heard, but rather because of the reactions I noted by observing two of his loyal fans – my parents. 

I was visiting with my parents in the Bay Area.  This was the first time in many years that I had stayed at their home.  When I lived in the Bay Area, naturally, I’d only stop by their house to visit.  And, after I moved away, I would always stay in a hotel when visiting.  But this time due to financial concerns related to my work (as in "lack of"), I accepted their invitation to stay at their house.   

My parents are in their 80s.  They both retired from long middle-class working careers.  My dad worked in a factory for one company from the time he left the Navy after WW II until he retired at age 65.  My mother worked in public school administration for the same amount of time.  Even though they encouraged, and helped pay for, all four of their sons to graduate college, neither of them had an education beyond high school.  

I have always considered my parents to be apolitical.  They never talk politics, and the only thing recently that they seem concerned about is their fear of losing some (or all) of their Social Security or Medicare benefits. 

However, I learned by living with them for several days that they have a strong affinity for watching the Fox Cable Network - in particular The O’Reilly Factor 

Under any other circumstances I would have moved out immediately.  But, loving my parents as I do, and having learned a long time ago that it is not wise for a Rockford child to argue with his parents, I decided to try to gain an understanding of what makes an O’Reilly fan an O’Reilly Fan. 

The O’Reilly Factor, it seems, is the only non-sports or entertainment TV show that my parents watch.  My mother spends most of the day watching soap operas, and my dad likes to watch sports (especially baseball).  In the evening, they both watch old episodes of Lawrence Welk, Bonanza and Golden Girls.   

Until Bill O' comes on. 

One night I sat down with my mother and watched an entire episode of The O’Reilly Factor – from start to finish (In the past, I’d only seen YouTube excerpts from his show).  Based on this experience, I think I see the genius of the Roger Ailes propagandist approach to brainwashing the elderly. 

At one point O’Reilly winked at the camera and said something like, “and, I’m just looking out for you.  My mother said, “See son.  How can you not trust that kind-looking man with a twinkle in his eye when he says his only concern is to help you?  Later in the program O’Reilly talked about a group of “pinheads,” a term he apparently uses to describe any (and all) liberal intellectuals.  My mother then began to berate one of O’Reilly’s favorite “pinheads,” Al Gore, based on things she had heard on his show in the past.  Don’t you agree that Al Gore is just a smarty pants who likes to talk down to us regular folks?” she said.   

At that point, my head was about to explode. 

I came to realize that The O’Reilly Factor is nothing more than cleverly disguised hippie-bashing.  The Ailes’ formula is to get into the “comfort zone” of Fox elderly viewers.  He lets them know that, “You can trust us to understand and take care of your needs.”  And, at the same time, “We will let you know about the evil, fast-talking, slippery-tongued intellectuals who are out to take everything away from you.” 

Genius?   

Maybe not – But it works!    

 

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My mom thinks my husband looks like Glenn Beck and she considers that a compliment!
It is a type of brain washing the preys on the elderly with fear. Very scary!!
God. Entering into the precincts of *elderly*, I must take special care not to watch O'Reilly. Nor listen to any aluminum-siding salesmen or bank inspectors...
how many adults watch it? that's the scary part; not that we would watch it anyway, but here in Italy it is deep at night when he is on and, besides our muffled snoring, only the sound of critters breaks the silence :)
Is it a given that one becomes more fearful and less likely to question things as one ages? I really hope not, but it sure seems that way.
I'm always surprised at the propensity of the Greatest Generation to be fraudulently misled. Anyone who gives them the "aw, shucks" and acts like they are just good old boys can huckster them out of their live savings. Bill-O is the least offensive of the Fox hosts, as occasionally he lets his own self-interest override the Ailes' interests, but that's the best I can say for him. The folks are gullible, what can I say?
Can you "accidentally" switch the TV to the Ed Schultz Show on MSNBC? He's a working class kinda guy.
It's the same when I visit my elderly parents. Fox is on constantly, and although my dad gets the Washington Post, he is always complaining about the paper's liberal slant. Sometimes I start to say something and my wife kicks me under the table. Fox is evil, but older folks get set in their ways...
Fear and Unbalanced News viewers, broadly, fall into 3 categories:

1. Nice people like your folks, who are, and should be, worried about where the policies of the right wing of America have taken us.

2. The "tri-tip" hat wearers- these are the, er, eccentrics who have ALWAYS been part of politics, as anyone, which is practically no American, who has been active in grassroots politics knows well. Think not US Flag t-shirts, but rather, full regalia to the point of red white and blue coat and tails, high hats, etc, basically the "Uncle Sam" haberdashers.

3. The HATERS: the core audience which is causing every problem in the country today by clinging to hate of anyone who isn't from thar nek o' da woods, these are the core of the Tea Party, the John Birch Society, and, yes, (oh, and it is the same folks- they've always had their night time get ups) THE KLAN. Most likely your parents were Democrats before 64-68 (educated guess, of course could be wrong) and so may not realize that actual, true Conservatives refer to this horrid group of racist, and truly credulous and imbecilic, haters as, as the Great Buckley himself often said while slamming the door in their face, THE VULGARIANS- these racist haters, basically brownshirts, are, with Ailes' perverse assistance and propaganda expertise, EXPLOITING GOOD PEOPLE LIKE YOUR PARENTS FOR THE KOCH BROTHERS AND THE KKK!!! using 400 years of racism against Blacks, Asians and Latinos.

ps, I am not young, nor do I hate white culture for no good reason, so, I am not embarrassed to say I watch Welk re-runs too ... too bad Ed Sullivan isn't on retro TV ... bet your folks would watch it and I would too!
This is soooo funny!!!

You sit there and watch your parents and I sit here and watch you.........

If there is any difference in the level of brainwashing that has got y’all, I can’t find it. Yeah, it’s on different subjects but it’s all brainwashing. I strongly suspect it’s got me too. Strongly.

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@Oahusurfer

Yup. My parents were Democrats until the late '60s.

How'd you know?
Steven - I don't care if they watch O'Reilly; as long as they don't Vote! Any other Outing will do!
this doesn't impress, it should be common knowledge. most americans, many better educated than your folks, have the political sophistication of medieval serfs. how else do republicans, or any politician, get elected?

most americans have better sense than to turn all their money over to a 'financial advisor,' on his promise to 'look after you,' but that is precisely what they do in politics.
EZ Steve- I was there. And that is what anyone should ask anyone who pretends to have an educated opinion on all this ... what is the sum of your experience?

Fear and Unbalanced is what Ailes' purveys.
Your parents have good judgement in what they watch. My guess, you are adopted.
You've got a good start; I like it that you sat there and sincerely tried to discover how BOR hooked your parents. If we're ever going to deprogram our loved ones and help them escape from the Fox News cult, we're going to have to understand what needs it fills for them.

It sounds as if Bill plugs into your mother's need to feel respected, and that BOR's you-and-me-against-the-world chatter speaks to their need to belong.

So, I'm sitting here wondering how we can plug into those same needs. I cannot help but think that the fact we actually on your mother's side should help.
Good point Karen. I probably should have titled this "Deprogamming our parents."
Sounds right--the old, the rubes, the dumb. But I have a 90ty year old mother myself who thinks the guy is a fraud, she only had a high school education, but thought Walter Cronkite was the last great American journalist. Go figure.
You wrote, "Under any other circumstances I would have moved out immediately." This because your parents watch this program? Good Lord! How sad. Also, how narrow-minded. We ain't talking Hitler here. Do yourself a favour and try to get a little perspective.
Have another martini Barbara. It may help you understand my post.
I've noticed how the right-wing media has this message of how there are problems and they're caused by some small, unrepresentative, elitist group and if it weren't for them, your life would be so much better.

Contrast that with left wing, or even slightly left of center media. There are problems and shame on you if you're not doing something to ameliorate them. Guess which one resonates.
What fascinated me most in your piece had little if anything to do with FOX. As a former newscaster, the secret to its success is a still painful scar on my brain... and heart.)

No, what stopped me completely was your brief aside about not knowing your parents' politics, until now, simply because they "never talked about it." I was dumbstruck by how different my own upbringing was (not to mention, the two Freudian psychologists who committed it).

I can't remember ever not knowing where they stood on something... whether issue or person... or t.v show or flavor of ice cream, for that matter. They had strong opinions on virtually everything, the kind that didn't lend themselves to debate because that would mean acknowledging the possibility they were wrong.

One of the harsher realizations, watching my mother ripen into her 90's (though, in all honesty, it's more like withering) is that the die-hard liberal who raised me ended up as closed-minded and prejudiced as the people who once moved her to join the March on Washington.

She doesn't watch FOX. I think her loyalty to NBC may well be one of the few things she hasn't discarded over the years. But what frightens me is to think that, if she did, it might be because of, not despite, its political perspective. I pray age never effects me the same way.

If it does, would someone please turn my proverbial lights out... and make sure to shut off my TV?
I cannot get your post out of my mind, Steven. I would love to know whether and how you can affect your parents' perspective. They were not born stupid and they are not stupid now. A lying stranger changed their minds; a truthful son should be able to change them back.

My best guess is that you could start by chipping away at their trust in Bill O’Reilly. You could start by being honest about what you're trying to do. "Mom, I feel bad that he's managed to convince you of some of his stories," and give her an example or two of when BOR has been caught in a whopper. Point out to her ways in which BOR’s stories are in line with his corporate sponsors’ financial interests, and help her see the logic of his lying—he’s not lying because he’s evil; he’s doing the job he’s being paid to do.

You could also ask them to return the favor of watching a show. "Dad, I watched BOR with you, and I'd like you to watch something with me next time I visit." Then rent "An Inconvenient Truth," but before you sit down with them to watch it, ask them to tell you what they expect about it, having listened to BOR. Then show them the movie, and ask them what they think of Al Gore now, and whether they think BOR was straight with them.

Do none of this with any sort of "I-know-better-than-you" attitude. Every step of the way make sure your verbal and nonverbal messages are consistent with those of one friend helping another wade through the torrent of messages that come through that cable.

Maybe you live too far away to try, but as I said on my blog about this topic, people like you and me have to figure out this deprogramming gig. Only relentless person-to-person, eyeball-to-eyeball effort will recapture the hearts and minds of friends and families.
Some sound advice Karen. Thank You.

Actually, I did manage to get my parents to watch a Keith Olbermann episode. My mother thought he was “a handsome but very intense man.” I plan to continue with my deprogramming efforts (with my brothers’ help) when I visit with them at Thanksgiving.
@mary nissenson

You are very fortunate to have been brought up in a family that “inspires” open discussions on issues of the day. I was not. My mother always felt that her children (at any age) were to be left out of “adult” issues, meaning anything to do with politics, economics or religion.

Fortunately for my daughters, this has proven to be a source of “How not to raise children” for my wife and me. Our dinner table is literally a “family forum” every night. Everyone is encouraged to discuss “anything and everything” regardless of how sensitive the issue may be.

Thank you for your very interesting comment.
I feel so fortunate that my mother loves Jim Lehrer! And my father is a PBS guy from way back. Good luck with your deprogramming

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It isn't just the elderly watching fox news. I actually find it distasteful that people are so appalled at fox news when CNN and the BBC is much much worse in its slant on politics, especially regarding the middle east.
I also find it sad that people cannot be more 'middle of the road' in their approach to what they watch. And being that I'm in a city that's heavily Democrat, I don't mind if someone sees me checking out Fox on the Internet.
Steve, I understand your post (and the quasi-name calling, 'have another martini' comment in your, well, response to my comment). I just find it rather sad, and narrow-minded as well, that you actually said you'd have moved out on your parents during your visit because they watched this show. We, as I said, ain't talking Hitler here. They are watching a somewhat conservative show, not attending a KKK rally. You might want to broaden your perspective. And you also might want to actually debate or challenge the show. Instead, you just, in a sense, proclaim your superiority by saying you'd "move out". You said that under other circumstances - if you'd had the opportunity to stay in a hotel (?), if you didn't love your parents so much (?) , it isn't clear - you'd have moved out immediately. To have this reaction to people watching Fox News, is, I'd suggest, really extreme. Again, this ain't Hitler, or a rally of brownshirts in Germany in the 30s.

You might be the one that needs the calming effects of a martini. I suggest dry.

Take care and, wow, lighten up.
Setting aside the “Hitler” comparisons (poor choice of words Barbara), I really do have a very strong distaste for the Fox News network.

I used to go to a gym here in town on a regular basis. Whenever I’d be on the treadmill, all I’d see on the flat screen TVs in front of me would be the mind-numbing, idiotic chatter of Fox TV. I knew the owner of the gym, and I asked him if he could at least change the channel to a sports network or anything besides the mindless propaganda of Fox News. He said he liked the programming and if I didn’t like it I should leave.

So I did.

Don’t get upset, Barbara, because some of us realize the garbage that is being forced down our throats by Murdoch, Ailes et al. You can watch it if you like.

I won’t
Steve, I was saying that your reaction to your folks watching Fox was sad and over the top. LEAVING your parents' home because they watched Fox? That is WHY I SAID "We ain't talking Hitler here". Cause WE AIN'T talking Hitler here. Walking out on Mom and dad cause they are joining ranks with the SS? Moral, reasonable. Walking out cause they watch Fox? Hysterical in more ways than one.
Excellent discussion. I am with my family of origin this weekend, and am experiencing much the same feelings. Both my parents are FOX fans, and we keep time by the retro game shows on GSN, the Milwaukee Brewers games, episodes of Law and Order, and the FOX schedule. I have watched with them, trying to keep comments to myself. My approach has been to try to understand, also, how two intelligent people can fall for such unsupported "truths."

As an example, my parents were both fearful for my life during the Wisconsin protests; I am a teacher and joined others at the Capitol for those days in February. I know it's because they saw the "show" that FOX was giving them, portraying us as "violent union thugs" sometimes. Nothing could have been further from the truth. (And I did ask them when they had EVER seen a palm tree in Wisconsin.)

I respect their right to choose their programming in their own home (they raised me to respect the points of view of others) but I do make sure that NPR is on in my car, and I conveniently leave The Nation on the coffee table when I leave.

Great post.
And I understand you won't watch it. Of course no one wants to watch what they don't like or approve of. My REACTION to YOURS was the sadness and hysteria of LEAVING your parents' home because THEY watched Fox.

Obviously leaving the gym is of a different order.

Although, personally, I think it shows how narrow the Left can be that people, nice people like you, won't expose themselves to the other side. I think it good for us to read, watch, and debate with the other side.
The Hitler comparison is not, in my view, a poor choice because I'm saying THIS IS NOT HITLER!

I'm not comparing it TO the man, but saying we are not talking about something on that level here. Sorry if that is not clear in some way.
Actually, I don't watch TV at all Steve.

Good luck.
@Rochelle Skaar

The Capitol rally must have been a great experience.

“I conveniently leave The Nation on the coffee table when I leave.” – Perfect!
You have more forbearance than I have. But I appreciate your explanation. My parents lived their final years receiving the benefits of a middle class retirement, and, I think, entirely unaware of what they owed to the government for looking out for the best interests of the middle class from the 1940's through the 1960's. My mom's hero was Rush Limbaugh. Seeing the extent to which she was in his thrall made me want to gag.

There will be no remedy for this as long as free and unbiased non-corporate journalism is so scarce (especially on TV) in this country. The only trustworthy source of filmed news coverage is Amy Goodman's Democracy Now, and sadly, their audience is minuscule.
I agree Snippy,

At the end of the day, it always comes down to the fact that we no longer have “unbiased non-corporate journalism.” If we could fix that, we could fix many things that are wrong with our society today.

Thanks for your comment.
Waaaaay over the top reaction, Barbara Joanne. If he had left his family's house because of their television viewing, you might have been justified in calling it "hysteria." He didn't. He listened calmly, did not confront his parents, tried to understand what motivated them.

And to call Fox News "somewhat conservative" is woefully inaccurate. It is propaganda, pure and simple.

And a more general observation directed to anyone who happens to read: I don't absolve the other networks of lapdog journalism, by any means, but Fox News is the most blatantly deceitful. All corporate news sources are guilty of sins of omission and complicity; Fox News has regularly been found to disseminate outright falsehoods. Factual newscasts can be found in only one place that I'm aware of, and it's not PBS, sadly, for they suppress what is against the plutocracy's best interests, as well, or at least they don't report it until a few years after when it is too little, too late. No, I refer to Amy Goodman's Democracy Now. She is a true patriot, and if her audience were only greater, democracy might be more than the sham to which it has devolved, in the US.
Honest, I don't own stock in Democracy Now. I'd been interrupted so many times as I wrote that second comment that I forgot I'd already plugged it. Ha!
The Right always seen to be better than the Left in using human psychology. The formula is basic seduction - flattery and exploiting psychological insecurities. The Right will tell you that you're the greatest thing since sliced bread and they are protecting you from all those liberals who despise you. The Left is more likely to give you lectures on economics, foreign policy and race. Emotional appeals will nearly always triumph over intellectual ones.
Snippy - my comment saying 'somewhat conservative' was in reference to Bill O'Reilly's show. Thinking the author over the top in his reaction was in reference to his saying that under other circumstances he'd have left his parents', his parents' (!), home because they watched Fox. I still think that rather amazing.

Love reading the Nation.
Snippy - yep, Goodman's "show" is great to watch.
BTW, Goodman can be found on YouTube for those of you who don't do the TV thing or, like me, can't. I believe her brother is also a journalist or reporter. Anyone that can remind me of his name will be doing me a favour.
*sigh*

This was all too familiar. My favorite comment from my mom recently was "Why won't the government let us buy Mr. Edison's bulbs?"

Me: "Mom, have you been watching Fox News?"
The thing that gets me is the folks who find an equivalency between Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. They're not equivalent! In my years of looking in all 3 networks, I have only heard a couple of out-and-out lies or misinformation from CNN and MSNBC, usually when the host gets hot under the collar about something they don't have the full story about and starts ranting. The next day, or even later in the same program, they offer the correction and look shamefaced (as they should). Fox, however, flat out lies! Misinformation from everywhere! I specifically recall Dick Morris telling Bill-O that if Obamacare passed, his medical records would be an open book to anyone who wanted to view them. Sorry, Bill-O, but your records now are an open book to anyone who handles them, from your doctor's office to your insurance company, and the privacy laws that protect you now will protect you in the future. Every time I turn on Fox, within the first 10 minutes I hear something that is absolutely false, and I have to turn it off. Fortunately, Bill-O is the highest rated host, and nationwide there are less than 3 million viewers. For such a small group, they sure do make a lot of noise.
I feel your pain bro...Same story with my parents...even worse, they are tea party activist...and they used to be so nice.