Surazeus

Surazeus
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AUGUST 29, 2012 4:24PM

God is Substance

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God does not exist because the word exist is from Latin, ex-stare, meaning to stand out, as in an object that stands out in space and time, and has limitations that define its existence. By definition, God is beyond limitations of time and space, so God cannot exist.

However, one could say that God subsists because sub-stare means to stand under, so God as defined could be the substance of things, although atoms are individually existent pulses, yet their sum total is a vast field of substance we call the universe.

We know there are lots of pulsing, vibrational atoms and molecules that organize themselves according to mathematical principles in chemical bonding. When those chemicals organize themselves through evolutionary processes, at one point they become conscious organisms who are able to communicate with each other and seek to understand how they came to exist out of the substance of atoms.

We are conscious when our bodies function properly, so we have come to reason that maybe this sense of consciousness persists beyond our bodies. Thus we create the idea of God to account for our own consciousness.

I don't think consciousness can persist beyond the dissolution of the organic body, but our minds are concentrated vibrations of consciousness, much like a light bulb glows with a higher intensity of light.

God is substance, and we are existence.

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Fact: We are stardust, and if string theory turns out to be an accurate model of matter and energy, our "concentrated vibrations of consciousness" are reflected across the universe(s). Excellent post, rated for provocation of "concentrated vibrations."
I wonder why it is necessary to make substance into a God. Why not accept substance as substance and let it go at that? Must one worship the stuff of the universe? What does that add?

Vibrations are vibrations, the shaking of stuff. Nothing to do with consciousness or humanity which exists more or less on the bit of cosmic dust known as Earth like that green coloring on a bit of Roquefort cheese.
jmac: I am glad you enjoy the insight.

Jan: I am saying the word exist cannot be used about God when God is defined as infinite, for the word exist implies an object limited in time and space. It is more accurate to use the term subsist, to suggest that God is the substance of existence.

Personally I do not believe there is a vast consciousness that permeates the universe. There might be, but what can be determined for sure is that humans are the most conscious organism, at least on the planet we inhabit.

We are the agents through which the consciousness of the universe perceives and acts.
I doubt the cosmos is aware of itself. That the automatic interaction of the basic forces are a process that results in intelligent life can be construed as intelligence just as the coin sorting processes in a soft drink dispenser can be viewed as a sort of intelligence is a matter of how one defines the word but that does not endow consciousness.
I agree with that.

What is interesting about the word "God" is that it is originally the name of a man, Godin, Odin, Wotan, which referred to the chief of a tribe.

When we see that God is often used in reference to political leadership, a man who is the guardian and leader of his tribe, trusted and obeyed in the daily operations of tribal life, then the use of this term in religious discussions makes more sense.
The concept of God as a tribal leader meshes well with the Biblical concept but the English name seems out of place in this ancient language context..
Thank you for this cause for thought.
For me,it is interesting to be among atheists.
I don't know who said it first that atheists are the firmest believers.
What I have noticed though is that atheists are great humanists.
If we need an entity,we can find it in the spirit of those.
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