
I’m afraid that young people aren’t kissing as much as they used to, especially during sex. Last weekend I watched Rules of Attraction, a 2002 cult film based on the novel by Bret Easton Ellis. Though it’s seven years old, its portrayal of sex-based relationships on college campuses is still accurate. There is plenty of sexual attraction, but not much emotional connection. Perhaps I shouldn’t have been surprised then, when I realized about halfway through the movie that there wasn’t any kissing in the sex scenes. I thought it strange; when I was growing up in the 70s, making out was an essential precursor to even the most casual sex.
In thinking about what’s changed in the last 30 years, I quickly hypothesized that the ready availability of porn might have something to do with this. Technology has made it possible for many young men to view explicit porn every day. It is a popular male bonding activity among college guys. In recent years, porn has showcased behaviors that have quickly become part of the mainstream young heterosexual scene, including Brazilian waxing and girl-on-girl kissing. Now it appears that the practice of anal sex is increasing dramatically among young people, thanks to its popularity in porn. Today, there is evidence that girls feel pressured to participate in threesomes, and to allow their partners to ejaculate onto their faces, the quintessential porn flick money shot.
I decided to do a little, ahem, research, and checked out a few porn sites to see for myself. Bingo. Lots of banging, very little kissing. And that was true even on the amateur sites, where regular folks upload videos of themselves having sex to share the love with the viewing public. Though I wasn’t a big consumer of porn thirty years ago, I suspect there wasn’t much kissing in those movies either. What different today is that porn is now the primary form of sex ed for young men, and they’re mimicking those behaviors in their own lives. What kissing I did find online was strange, almost reptilian. I learned that this is called pornkissing: To kiss someone with tongue but no lips, as in adult movies (UrbanDictionary.com). (As an interesting aside, I found far more passionate kissing on the gay [male] porn sites. It wasn’t the norm, but plenty of videos were named to imply that the actors were in love, so it was clearly a draw for some viewers.)
Surprisingly, very little research has been done on the subject of kissing. A 2007 study of 1,041 college students at the State University of New York at Albany did reveal some interesting things about how the genders differ in their view of kissing: [1]
- Only ten percent of women would consider having sex with a guy without kissing first, whereas men found kissing far less important.
- Men consider kissing a means to an end, such as gaining sexual favors or reconciling.
- Women kiss to establish and monitor the status of their relationship, and consider it a crucial element in finding a partner.
- Kissing is biologically powerful; it releases feel-good dopamine and endorphins to the brain, reduces cortisol (stress hormone) levels, and floods the brain with oxytocin.
- More than half of the men said they would be happy to have sex without kissing, compared with fifteen percent of the women.
- Men expect kissing to lead to sex half the time, compared with one-third of the time for women.
- Men are more likely to initiate French kissing, perhaps hoping to arouse the woman with the testosterone in their saliva.
- Tasting another’s saliva gives you their “chemical fingerprint.” Saliva and sweat contain pheromones, and help you determine your level of attraction and compatibility to a person.
Because the vast majority of porn viewers are men, and because most porn is produced by men, it is not surprising that porn focuses on what men want. But what are the long-term implications for emotional intimacy and relationships in our culture when young men are learning most of what they know about courtship from porn? How do women feel about the norms of porn becoming part of the mainstream sexual script?
In 2003, third-wave feminist Naomi Wolf wrote a seminal piece for New York Magazine called The Porn Myth. She made the point that the onslaught of porn is deadening the male libido, who see fewer real women as “porn-worthy”. She states:
“If your appetite is stimulated and fed by poor-quality material, it takes more junk to fill you up. People are not closer because of porn but further apart; people are not more turned on in their daily lives but less so.”
She believes that young women on college campuses worry that if they do not offer what porn offers, they won’t be able to hold a guy.
And now it appears that they may not be able to kiss him either.
[1] Susan M. Hughes, Marissa A. Harrison, and Gordon G. Gallup, State University of New York at Albany, Evolutionary Psychology Journal. October, 2007.


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Most men liked romance as much as me.
About half the men I dated were lousy kissers, but teachable.
Most went for the tongue too soon.
Bad conversationalists were also lousy kissers.
The bigger the dick, the worse the kisser.
And that's all from me.
I have always been a pushover in re: great kissers.
Porn research: In favor of that too.
Reading about someone elses porn research: rated
* Sex is women pleasing men or themselves. Men pleasing women are rare:
* Following on the preceding, the only common kissing is women kissing each other;
* Fellatio is ubiquitous, cunnilingus is very rare;
* Women have little or no pubic hair. Men, even European, rarely have a visible foreskins;
* Squirting semen at a woman's face and chest is ubiquitous (why would she enjoy that???);
* Women are depicted as voraciously bisexual. I think that straight women are happily lesbo on camera simply because it is safe;
*Women are often stark naked except for ridiculous high heels. I conclude that foot fetishism is alive and well. It's also unwelcome in my corner!
* Women's show their faces. Men seldom do. From this alone, I conclude that porn dehumanizes men.
it's amazing how someone's taste is so distinctive... if I was really attracted to someone I can remember it for a long time afterward.
sex, strangely enough, can lack intimacy... but never a kiss...
and good sex REQUIRES good kissing.
porn kissing: yuck.
The use of the word 'seminal' here nearly killed me.
Why is it that woman usually need to teach men to kiss correctly.
Do men not know that the proper kiss (not necessarily proper) is the key to a successful blow job?!
Seriously, kids, the kiss is the magic from which all really good sex is derrived.
Don't believe me. It's OK.
I will tell you, that Greg here, is a very wise man for such a young man.
He gets it.
Because his wife has guided him through the deep waters of true romance and the depths of passion and intimacy.
Intimacy - that is the real turn on.
It begins with a kiss.
Why is it that men usually need to teach women to kiss correctly?
Do women not know that the proper kiss (not necessarily proper) is the key to intimacy?
Seriously, kids, the kiss is the magic from which all really good sex is derived.
Believe me. It's OK.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/13/science/13tier.html
about how "anti-love" drugs that prevent people falling in love may be the road to paradise (according to the author). This article, coupled with your observations, confirms my suspicion that we are sliding full speed into Huxley's Brave New World dystopia. But hey, if I you can get no-strings-attached anal on the first date, let's slide away!!! (just joking)
On a related note, I believe in "monkey see, monkey do", and that men will try to copy whatever they see in the movies and that girls will often acquiesce. So, if you have a teenage daughter, better not even think about Kim Kardashian's taste for warm showers. And, if you have a teenage gay son, let's put it this way: a couple years ago a high school in Brookline, MA distributed an apparently direly needed sex-ed booklet featuring instructions for "safe fisting".
Kissing is just about my favorite thing to do, and it doesn't necessarily lead to sex for me. I realize that I am not like most men, and thank God. I'm way better off for it, and so are my partners!
The comments about showing the woman's face but not the man's are very true for American porn; it seems to be about the man's view of a woman on his penis (in whatever way). Another phenomenon of American straight porn is that while the women are generally attractive (if often in a very stereotypical or exaggeratedly "sexpot" way), the appearance of the men seems unimportant. Pot bellies, ugly faces - could it be, as Margaret Cho once observed, that straight American men are disturbed by the possibility that they might find the man attractive as well? This is also the case for porn made in Germany but not for Eastern and especially Southern Europe. Could it also be a matter of men ability or inability to identify with they guys in the films?
This is great subject matter, I'm glad you wrote about it. Thumbs up!
One of the main problems of my marriage was that as we grew older, I needed more foreplay and kissing, while my wife stopped kissing and demanded I sprang to attention immediately....
And the porn I did use as a marital aid was almost exclusively amateur shots of girls kissing...
The golden era of porn was the late 1970s... not today... so your perceptions are out of place with the trends...
Another poster said this was frightening; I say it's laughable.
Paulie and Pauline
So, if they don't like sex, why do they watch porn? Watching porn is usually a lot different from doing sex with another person or persons. It usually has little or no emotional or sensual content, but is purely mental. The visuals are often grossly unaesthetic, the audio tedious and unconvincing. It is often accompanied by quick masturbation. In other words, it may be a way of not feeling sexy, of getting rid of sexual desire. One might say a lot of it is anti-sexual. Such porn would also be anti-kissing, because kissing is sexy.
Many or most people lack the self esteem and emotional competence, as well as the requisite experience and understanding of sex to do a very good job. Adding in the rarity of two such capable people pairing up and you are left with a sexual wasteland of one kind or another.
Most sex is bad sex. I mean most like 95%.
The only difference is that now we have people reenacting extravagant and foolish porn scenarios rather than botching things through simple ignorance.
Whereas once people suffered from an over-inhibiting excess of shame, not they suffer an over-empowering lack thereof.
Just one possibility.
I reminds me of a quote in a Goddard movie about how American women dominate men, but French women haven't figured that out yet.
I think the movie was from the late 50's.
Good luck climbing back on top!
Good kissing is often a requirement on dating sites, though. Guys mention it A LOT.
-is "Rules of Attraction" really an accurate depiction of college sex life? My recollection is that a big theme of the movie was the way that young people can become disconnected from their lives. The wikipedia entry describes "a hopeless feeling of inertia" as one of the themes. Really, what role does lingering, romantic kissing have in such a movie? We might as well say that guys holding jukeboxes over their heads is a key part of late-80s dating culture after watching "Say Anything."
Rather I am "my own man".
Just for shits & giggles, I'll tell you that I'm straight and not at all homophobic.
I'm comfortable with my own sexuality and, that means that I am not 'threatened' by being around a gay guy.
By that I mean that I am influenced by what feels good and right for me rather than what someone wants me to think, feel, etc.
Kissing is extremely pleasurable with a good partner.
My definitions of "good partner":
Intelligent
Self confident
Good conversationalist
Adventurous
Clean
NOT "five easy pieces"!
Not feminist to the point of sexism.
Yes, also a good kisser.
I'm one of those guys who likes eye contact.
I'm patient.
I believe that most porn is bullshit and, it doesn't often arouse me.
I don't attempt to pawn myself off to a woman as some man of her dreams.
If there's a click, there's a click.
If not, there's not.
NOTHING forced is ever good.
Back to kissing:
There is nothing more erotic and/or pleasurable than a kiss between two people who are into it.
It's neat to kiss a woman and, when the kiss is over for a few seconds etc., to look each other in the eyes with a common obvious enjoyment is terrific.
Yes, kissing is sometimes used by some as a means to an end however, that would seem to kill the enjoyment of the kiss as, it would detract from the falling into the kiss itself.
I know, I'm babbling here.lol
I know what I mean, do any of you?
There's another thing which is really neat between myself and a woman~~~~AFTERPLAY.
This never seems to be discussed.
Kissing is a nice part of afterplay.
Ahhh, enuffs enuff.
I hope someone understand what I've been trying to say here.
XXXXXXX;-)
- I notice that most men nowadays prefer to kiss a woman's vagina more so than her mouth. Man loves to give his woman pleasure and the woman's moaning and lubrication increases his arousal.
- Man also seems to prefer to be brought to the point of ejaculation having his penis in the woman's mouth thrusting deeply into her throat rather than in her vagina. This is perhaps because some women have weak vaginal muscles and cannot contract tightly enough to grip the man's penis. With her mouth and lips the woman can apply a tighter grip on an erect penis.
- And to complete the scene man seems to prefer ejaculating on the woman's face rather that within her vagina. This one baffles me. Why this Onanism?
As a footnote, I personally love women who keep their pubic hair lush and untrimmed. It is in her pubic hair that a woman's scent is preserved. Olfactorily speaking, this is the most arousing aspect of love making combined with sight, touch, and taste. A shaved vagina loses something.
I'm inclined to disagree with Naomi Wolf concerning porn deadening the male libido. I suppose I cannot speak for young men, but I think, long term, women and men will adapt to an environment that has easy availability of sexual imagery without too much serious injury.
Personally, I've never wanted to cum in my lovers face - and Anal Sex grosses me out as much as cunnilingus doesn't; providing you don't smoke, eat crap that makes you taste nasty, and douche every once in a while; so don't let this crap get you down - or, for that matter, settle for it at all - unless you actually want to.
I'm middle aged, and I've changed so much - sexually speaking - since I was a naive fool of a teenager, that I'm certain that these practices will be just another passing phase; for if they don't, then I honestly feel that you ladies will not have been playing your own 'no pooty 4 U' trump card to poor advantage.
Young Men: Whether you young'uns realize it or not, yet, the Best Sex is that in which you achieve a sort of 'harmoniousness' with your lover, and that's never going to happen for you if you don't take care to make your lady as happy - and that means truly comfortable with what your asking her to do - as possible.
Money Shots are always going to be, in all cases but those in which you're interacting with anyone but the most heinous whore/slut/ junkie-faker-out-to-make-you-for-a-fix, a depreciating investiment.
If you must do such a degrading thing to teh woman who you think you might love, then settle for swallowing.
Porn movies, just like soft porn romance novels, never have and never will change anything. A good kisser (man) will always be favored by women in general.
"Banging," as you nicely put it, will always be favored by "cougars," and briefly by most women who are not in love right before they reach orgasm, porn or no porn. Women who are in love start their orgasm the moment they see the dude, and finish their orgasm regardless what the dude does. I was just showing off.
Listen to teenage girls, women in their 20s, women in their 30s, women in their 40s talk about sex. You will be surprised how the culture has changed.
You must also factor in the new feminist drive: POWER and CONTROL. Why would a tiny woman drive a huge SUV she can hardly climb into, let alone see the road.
Amateur porn controlled by women of all ages is the FUTURE. This women-controlled Amateur porn will make today's porn look like "Little House on the Prairies."
Remember where you first heard it.
I am about to practice up on the art of kissing right now. So, as Alpha Whiskey hints,
Take a thumb,
and a point finger.
Make a fake mouth?
Kiss the hand silently.
It's silly as overhearing
Lover in a moo cow field.
Silent kisses is weird silly.
It's impossible. No view porn.
C.L. Lewis writes How Absurd!
Why view plates of displayed food?
A piece of meat at a pole dance party?
I mean:`Horrible. Watch. No touches?
Ya go home alone, and still are starved.
Honest. I never 'hit' a porn site. It's silly.
C.S. Lewis gets it. Why gaze at a display?
A moo cow? A hamburger? Raison apple?
A Peach pie? Oh, then Ya can't eat or touch.
It's as silly as taking a salt shaker to body gaze.
Oh, why not kiss a orange carrot or a tangerine?
Maybe remain home and shake a pepper shaker?
No sneeze on the computer screen. No screed. No.
In my book.
I do agree with the basic observation that porn is changing the way younger people kiss. I would add that it has also greatly increased the tendency for no-holds barred exhibitionism for younger adults. There are so many, many sites where amateur women pose in sexually provocative positions; so very many sites where people - not the people in the pornography or sex business, but just amateur men and women, people outside the pornography world - put up stills and video of having sex with their partners. So, the old idea of sex being something you do in the privacy of your own home, the idea of it being a private act, is changing among at least a significant number of younger adults into something that you get a kick of flaunting for the whole world to see.
And, since almost all porn these days feature threesomes with 2 women and a man (actual porn directed at bisexuals is very rare - bisexual porn is usually directed at male bisexuals, and will feature men having sex with both men and women. Some gay porn stars have been criticized by their fans for appearing also in bisexual pornography -- I've done some research of my own) -- it is important to note that this porn is still directed to men as their viewing audience. A lot of the amateur porn out there mimics this, so a couple will also have another woman in their sex video. There is a whole sub-set of these amateur porn videos featuring 'semen slurpers': one woman gives the man a blow job, and then she shares that semen with the other woman, who slurps it up from her mouth. There are a ton of these kind of sites and videos out there on the internet: it would be a mistake to believe that only a very few odd, attention-seeking young people are involved in this. (Mind you, I've never understood the popularity of Jerry Springer, either).
imo, all of these trends are not only strongly influenced by pornography, but I think these trends are very sad. In the guise of sexual openness and freedom (i.e. everything is acceptable), intimacy is lost.
It would be terribly sad if it were replaced by 'pornkissing'... which is really all about image. In porn, it is about the visuals, how sexy does it look to its (mostly male) audience.
Yes, I've only noted the trend to Brazilian waxing among young women. Female bodies are encouraged to be more and more porn-like. Brazilian waxes, young women are much more apt to go for breast enlargements and silicone, and the trend towards botoxing one's lips (so they can appear full and sensuous, as in porn movies) is now available at almost every spa and salon.
About body hair and different cultural perceptions: a friend of mine is married to a man from El Salvador. She has her legs waxed, and would feel uncomfortable going to the beach or a public pool with unshaven legs. Yet, her husband once remarked on 'that lovely girl with those lovely, hairy legs'. At that point, at least, in Central America, hair on a women's legs was considered quite natural and even a turn-on.
I recall hearing many years ago that in Europe, most women did not shave their legs, that only prostitutes did and they didn't want to be taken for a prostitute. That has probably changed by now, with all of our cultural influences from movies and television.
"I do agree with the basic observation that porn is changing the way younger people kiss. I would add that it has also greatly increased the tendency for no-holds barred exhibitionism for younger adults."
I too am concerned about the exhibitionism among young women, a la Girls Gone Wild. A GREAT book about this topic is: Female Chauvinist Pigs, by Ariel Levy of New York Mag. It's all part of the mainstreaming of porn. Perhaps you've seen the recent news reports that 1/3 of teen girls have texted photos of themselves naked or semi-naked. Yikes. Once images are online, they are there forever. The implications are frightening.
I love a good kiss that knocks me off my feet! A good kiss should send shivers and give goosebumps. And it just plain feels good! Sometimes it's soft and tender, sometimes it's a little rough.
It's the most underrated show of affection and intimacy. It all starts with a kiss!
Kissing is supreme and we need to do it more. It's truly magical. You've inspired me to start a piece on touching and kissing, which I've been...ah...not writing!
We start with: "I’m afraid that young people aren’t kissing as much as they used to, especially during sex ..." based on watching a six-year-old movie.
We move on to:
"I quickly hypothesized that the ready availability of porn might have something to do with this. "
And then, I think, you wrote as though your fear had been validated and hypothesis had been proven at the instant of formulation? ;-)
I am reminded of some of the best and kindest advice AI ever got, from a college history TA: "Please don't let your ability to turn a great phrase obscure the need to do actual research."
"BARACK OBAMA’S victory in November demonstrated, to the surprise of many Americans and much of the world, that we were ready to see a black man as president. Of course, we had seen several black presidents already, not in the real White House but in the virtual America of movies and television. The presidencies of James Earl Jones in “The Man,” Morgan Freeman in “Deep Impact,” Chris Rock in “Head of State” and Dennis Haysbert in “24” helped us imagine Mr. Obama’s transformative breakthrough before it occurred. In a modest way, they also hastened its arrival..."