In his review of David Frisk's new biography of the right wing organizer, If Not Us, Who? William Rusher, National Review, and the Conservative Movement, Yale historian Geoffrey Kabaservice issues a warning to all those Republicans now gathering in Tampa who might be poised to repeat the disaster of their national convention in 1964 when "extremism in defense of liberty" produced one of the worst defeats in American political history.
Rusher was one of the co-founders of National Review along with William F. Buckley, Jr.. He was also a founding father of the modern conservative movement whose delegate hunting operation he helped organize, called "the Syndicate," allowed Barry Goldwater to seize the GOP presidential nomination in 1964, writes Kabaservice.
What is not fully appreciated, though, says Kabaservice is the extent to which Rushser's operation "provided much of the conservative movement's ideological content and personnel, as well as its tactics and tone."
Many of the tactics employed by the anti-communist Syndicate, said Kabaservice, were borrowed directly from the Communist Party itself, including manipulation of elections, the creation of front groups, intimidation, slander, agit-prop techniques, and an ends-justify-the-means approach.
"Rusher was rather proud of his mastery of what he called 'the black art of winning conventions' and other political contests," says Kabaservice, "but the darker side of the Syndicate's influence is still felt today: it provided a template for a movement that knows very much about how to incite resentments and oppose establishments, but very little about how to govern."
This is very much the Republican Party that Mitt Romney will be inheriting this week as it grudgingly makes him its standard-bearer.
Recent evidence of the GOP's paucity of interest in or acumen for real governing was the transformation of a sure thing in Maine into an open Senate seat in 2012 when long-time Republican Senator Olympia Snowe shocked the political establishment by announcing she would not be seeking reelection this year.
Conventional wisdom declared Snowe's retirement proof that "moderation is dead" in Washington and Snowe's own statements about today's toxic political polarization also had a sort of plague-on-both-your-houses quality to them.
But Snowe also let it be known through relatives and other proxies (particularly her cousin, Georgia Chomas) that the real cause of her early retirement were the social conservatives and Tea Party activists who'd been hounding Snowe at home while party leaders in Washington had been ignoring the issues she cared most about.
"There was a constant, constant struggle to accommodate everyone, and a lot of pressure on her from the extreme right," said Chomas, "And she just can't go there."
Olympia Snowe isn't quitting her Senate seat because "partisanship" in Congress had become too much for her. She's quitting because the Republican Party has.
If imitation is the highest form of flattery then liberals and sensible conservatives alike should be afraid - very, very afraid -- that the Tea Party and other radicalized conservatives are exhibiting all the classic symptoms of what historian Crane Brinton calls the "fever" of revolution.
When angry, placard-carrying hooligans (solemnized as "common sense, constitutional Americans" by Palin-style conservatives) descended on congressional town hall forums in the Summer of 2009, the protesters were reading from strategy manuals supplied by their corporate-backed handlers to exploit their smallish numbers for maximum effect.
In a leaked memo called "Rocking the Town Halls - Best Practices" that Politico got from a FeedomWorks volunteer, those protesting health care reform were advised to:
• "Artificially Inflate Your Numbers: Spread out in the hall and try to be in the front half."
• "Be Disruptive Early And Often: You need to rock-the-boat early in the Rep's presentation, Watch for an opportunity to yell out and challenge the Rep's statements early."
• "Try To 'Rattle Him,' Not Have An Intelligent Debate: The goal is to get him off his prepared script and agenda. If he says something outrageous, stand up and shout out and sit right back down. Look for these opportunities before he even takes questions."
In these town hall disruptions where congressmen were burned in effigy or hurried from community meetings under police escort, experienced political observers recognized the disturbing replay from 1964 when a small but dedicated cadre of right wing militants took over the Republican Party and then nominated for president someone who went on to lose in one of the biggest landslides in US political history.
Tom Hayden, who as co-founder of Students for a Democratic Society was no stranger to radical politics, would have immediately identified these town hall disruptions as being inspired by the same kind of right wing tactics he observed at the Peace Corps national conference in 1961, when conservative Young Americans for Freedom arrived "unannounced" and then, just like the town hall disruptions in 2009, "spread out in a diamond formation -- an old communist trick -- in order to extend their influence."
All throughout the early 1960s, a disbelieving GOP establishment looked on helpless as their party was overrun by militants whose tactics seemed borrowed from left-leaning totalitarians in their self-appointed role as vanguards of some proletarian "silent majority."
Barry Goldwater's chief political strategist, F. Clifton White, had seen firsthand what communists were able to do when he lost a local race to these "Reds" and came away impressed by how they got their way through "secrecy, rigid unity, manipulation of parliamentary procedure and sheer ruthlessness," writes Kabaservice in his own Rule and Ruin: The Downfall of Moderation and the Destruction of the Republican Party, From Eisenhower to the Tea Party.
White saw in the communists' example "the methods by which a small, disciplined minority, uninhibited by bourgeois scruples over fair play, or tradition, or truth could defeat a majority and bend an organization to its will," writes Kabaservice.
By 1963, conservatives were able to put these borrowed leftist tactics to work to take over the Young Republican organization in what one observer called a "rightist putsch."
At the YR's national convention, Kabaservice says conservative "bully-boys reduced the proceedings to chaos with constant noise and clamor, fistfights, thrown chairs, and a flying-wedge effort" to physically force the presiding officer off the podium.
Conservative columnist Robert Novak covered the proceedings and was revolted by "these hard-faced, implacable young men with crew cuts and buttoned down collars shrieking into floor microphones and chanting and stamping their feet in unison in a systemic effort to disrupt the convention."
Moderates objected to this "anti-democratic, take-no-prisoners, ends-justify-the means approach to grassroots politics" as well as to the conservative's "utter contempt for their fellow delegates and for the parliamentary institutions which under-gird the practice of freedom."
But moderate complaints proved futile as the tactics used by these reactionary factions were merely a warm-up to the main event, which was the right wing takeover of the GOP itself when the party assembled for its National Convention at the Cow Palace in San Francisco.
When Nelson Rockefeller rose to speak to the Republican convention about the Know-Nothings who'd infiltrated their party and his own firsthand experience with the John Birch Society's hate literature, goon tactics and bombings, the reaction he got anticipated by more than 50 years the alarming reaction from Republican audiences during this season's presidential debates on everything from executions, gays in the military, women's health, even the fate of comatose patients. As Rockefeller addressed the convention he was met with what Kabaservice calls "a storm of boos, chants, jeers and catcalls" that made it impossible for Rockefeller to be heard no matter how hard the chair tried to gavel the hall to order.
"It is still a free country," Governor Rockefeller roared back. "Some of you don't like to hear it, ladies and gentlemen, but it's the truth."
An ABC News research director who was there said the experience was "horrible. I felt like I was in Nazi Germany."
Earl Warren blasted the "odious techniques of subversion and intrigue" being used by a "well disciplined few to capture and control our party."
Casper Weinberger decried the efforts of "a small, narrowly-based and heavily-financed group whose real aim is the destruction of the Republican Party."
And President Eisenhower called the convention "unpardonable - a complete negation of the spirit of democracy. I was bitterly ashamed."
Re-reading the history of that earlier time when a Republican Establishment once more faced off against extremist elements in their midst, it's hard not to feel both sympathy and contempt for those high-minded, do-gooder Republican "moderates" who were caught so totally off guard by disciplined right wing cadres whose hatred of communism -- as well as their admiration and imitation of it -- gave them a much better understanding of the ruthlessness it takes to win, and hold, power.
If Crane Brinton were alive today and still writing history, the author of the classic Anatomy of Revolution might tell us to cut these moderate Republicans some slack. After all, he'd no doubt say, like moderates everywhere who found themselves caught in the currents of revolutionary times these "establishment" Republicans were paddling up-steam.
In contrast to moderates who must maintain a functioning society, radicals are favored by their "fanatical devotion to their cause," their discipline, their unquestioning obedience to their leadership, and their utter unconcern at the contradictions between what they say and what they do. Even their small numbers are no impediment to their success since it gives them the ability "to move swiftly, to make clear and final decisions, to push through to a goal without regard for injured human dispositions."
Every revolutionary period has its own rhythms and life-cycle, says Brinton. And one of those enduring constants is that, in the short run, radicals almost always prevail. That is due to the fact that radicals are customarily "better organized, better staffed, better obeyed." Further, while radicals have "relatively few responsibilities" their opponents have "to shoulder some of the unpopularity of the government of the old regime" with its "worn-out machinery."
Think President Obama struggling to dig out the country from the crisis these unhelpful Republicans bequeathed us.


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In that, their contempt is as whitewashed as the convention in general. It's all pointed at obscuring an agenda that most Americans find objectionable. That trait is as old as the conservative movement, so they get more disciplined as revolutionaries along the way. That, and radicalism and ignorance have become mainstreamed and significantly "normalized," so public perception is skewed.
However, I still reserve the right to be wrong, because if those whose down-ballot candidacy depends on Tea Party-ism, or the commercial interests that push Tea Party-ism, feel the need to burnish their Rad-Cred, they can spread a lot of ugly and do a lot of harm.
As a historical guide to that, Buckley, Kirk and a couple of other conservative poo-bahs met with Goldwater in '62, I believe, and plotted to discredit Bircher leader Welch. They wanted to distance the movement from that nutball, but not alienate the Bircher members because they needed them as ground troops.
So the National Review properly smeared Welch. Yet the convention came and the radical fit hit the shan anyway.
Odds of RNC Rwing putsch....10-1. Bet the cover-up.
But I think you are off base here.
Not only do I not think it will be a lop sided win for the Democrats...I do not think Obama will get a second term.
Romney is going to win this thing. The economy says so...and the economy is speaking in a very loud voice. In fact, the economy is speak through a bull horn.
Frankly, I have stopped fretting over it. I almost welcome my conviction that the Republicans will win; often considering my darker moments that predict a Republican romp in the congress as well.
Let them own the economy as it sinks...and sink it will. Let the silliness they call governance show itself to be the pile of horseshit it is. We will all suffer, but we will all suffer no matter what, because the economic debacle is a certainty no matter who wins the Oval Office or majorities in congress.
I got a smile on my face as I write this...but that has to do with shooting in the mid-80's today on the golf course.
Forget the politics stuff. Mid-80s! Really? That's great, congrats!
Ted
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If Paul Ryan is an appeal to the wackos than so be it, my incredibly liberal Boston mother things he seems like a really smart, nice young man that she could almost vote for-----almost. She also thought highly ofBill Weld except she still couldn't bring herself to pull the lever for him.
Spin it all you want but, these guys will appeal to the middle.
So, Olympia Snowe thinks the GOP has lost its mind and is way to extreme that just goes to show she is a pinko commie and good riddance? And your "very liberal" Boston mother just couldn't pull the lever for moderate Republican Bill Weld but thinks the right wing Paul Ryan is a fine young man she could almost support? Given this level of confusion about left and right just remind me never to ask anyone in your family for directions.
As for the 64 analogy, Paul O'Rourke said it best with his "what were once vices are now habits" comment. The Goldwater right-wingers were a fringe group and that 64 convention must have appalled most sane viewers. Now the Tea Partians aren't there to disrupt - they've already taken over and those Repubs who wish it were otherwise have been cowed into silence.
That is a little hysterical on your part, I never said Snow was a pinko commie, I just said seemed fine dealing with the kooks that reside to the left for the last 20 plus years. What can I say, my mom finds Ryan appealing you, can make fun of her compass but, it doesn't change the fact that he is found likeable by some despite the vitriol being spouted by many like you whose views she shares on many issues . I also think you have done a bit of meandering yourself based on your bio.
Snow was always one to come across the aisle and be hailed by the dems but, very few dems were praised by the mainstream if they every did the inverse. More pressure on the left to stay on the reservation than the right, they are just better hiding the gun under the cloak.
This time around, however, they are jury-rigging the whole electoral process, blocking probably Democratic voters from casting their votes with voter ID requirements, shortening voting hours in Democratic districts and expanding them in Republican districts and dispatching teams of thugs - Truth The Vote - to disrupt the polling places in Democratic districts.
I beg to differ, however, with your correlation between the 64 convention and the one taking place this week. In 1964, the radicals were disrupting a convention organized and managed by the moderate mainstream of the Republican Party. This time around, I'm very afraid, the radical extremists are in control of the convention so they are the ones calling the shots from inside the tent.
The radicals don't have to do anything at this convention; they've already won.
There isn't a center or a consensus and in the battle for the party, the moderate, sensible core got lost. They ended up in one camp or another. The presidential race has had candidates trying to triangulate these positions, which is one reason they got Romney, the perfectly oiled weathervane.
Romney is the least personable, stiff, phony candidate the R's have ever nominated and that's SAYING something for that crowd! He's like a collection of all the least flattering cliches about out-of-touch rich people, and Ann "You people" Romney can hardly open her mouth without offending a new batch of voters. Bain Capital's business practices are hurting Romney, as is his refusal to release any tax forms from years prior to 2010, when his own father set a pretty high benchmark of forthcoming honesty when HE released 12 years of forms before his own run for the presidency. We might forgive him what's in those taxes, but after Nixon, everyone hates a cover-up or the appearance of one. His choice of Ryan as his running mate was no game-changer, and Todd Akin helpfully revived the whole "War on Women" issue RIGHT before the convention. The truth is, the Republican party of 2012 is one that a lot of women with self-respect who value their own autonomy cannot support, myself included.
I don't think this will be a blow-out either way. It makes me mad that a candidate so inept and unlikeable as Romney who expects us to believe the same bullshit about cutting taxes equaling jobs is even a contender. But I'm not writing off the President's chances for re-election, by any means. He may have less money, but he has passionate supporters, while the GOP pretty much puts up with Romney without liking him much. Obama can really pump up the crowds, he's an able campaigner and debater. Nothing I've seen in Romney suggests he's any of that. Obama has much stronger support among people who aren't pale, male and rich, also.
Obama 2012, because if he DOESN'T win, we're all screwed.
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Ted, my kids are in middle and high school. They don't get to do it over in a better administration, they only get one shot. Our school districts are already shot to hell by the recession, I can't imagine they'll get any better under "get as much education as you can afford" Romney. I'll spend the next ten to fifteen years of my life getting my kids launched into adulthood. High school, then college, as much value as we can eke out of the public system, as many hours as we (and they) can work, as much school as we can manage with as little debt as possible. And my kids are the lucky ones.
The Tea Party and the Republicans want to shut down public education. Starve the beast.
Who is going to work in their nursing homes? Who is going to write their prescriptions for the next anti-Alzheimer's medication? Who is going to do the research to discover it? Who is going to design their houses, design their next iPad, or replace their aging joints with artificial ones?
The under-educated next generation. My kids and their friends, who have been swimming upstream against budget cuts since they were in kindergarten.
I hope they like the world they're buying for themselves.
I hope you are just kidding here, Jay. As a joke this is very funny; as a serious thought, it is a terrifying distortion.
@ Froggy: Frank Apisa, I really hope you're wrong. I hope so.
Yeah, I do too. I hope very much that I am wrong. But we Americans have truly gone far astray…and I am beginning to suspect that the people who see Republican duplicity as the dangerous, damaging disease it is…are a minority, not a majority—a very weak minority.
We’ll see.
That is no distortion
The "courage" of an Olympia Snowe did not lay in "voting with the left" as you say but rather in not voting AGAINST the Republican Party's own ideas when Obama embraced them in the cynical effort to score a few cheap political points and to deny Obama a victory that might actually help the economy recover.
Take the very first stimulus bill. Republicans knew that George Bush and the GOP Congress had dug such a deep hole -- between the 2008 economic crisis in which we were hemoraging about 800,000 jobs a month and doubling of the nation's debt in less than a decade -- that there was no way Obama could avoid another great depression without MASSIVE government stimulus. They knew, because passing a stimulus is what they would do.
Republicans cynically calculated however that by opposing Obama on something Bush had already done as the economic crisis took hold that they could score a twofer: more deficit spending, however necessary, was going to be scary for many Americans who think the government's finances operate by the same rules as their own family's ones. If families sitting around their kitchen table had to tighten their belt well then so did the government, they said. So, Republicans figured by refusing to vote on a single dime in new spending they could both set themselves up as diametrically opposite alternatives if Obama failed (since they figured they'd get no credit if they helped) AND they could put themselves back in the good graces of their far right base by standing tall against ALL new spending, thus recovering their Ronald Reagan fiscally conservative bonefides after so many years of spending like drunken sailors when they controlled the government.
It was a neat trick. But as Michael Grunwald points out in his new book on that first stimulus, it was completely hypocritical. By the time House Republicans voted 0 to 173 against Obama's stimulus bill, Republicans had already voted on a $715 billion stimulus of their own, which they described as good public policy. They were opposed to Obama's very similar $787 billion stimulus on grounds it was the thin wedge of totalitarian European style socialism and the end of the United States as we know it. Olympia Snowe was one of just three Republican Senators (not a single House Republican voted for the stimulus) who refused to play along with this hypocritical nonsense and voted for Obama's stimulus as well, but only after making the President cut out $100 billion or so in further spending from the bill that in retrospect would have helped the economy recover more.
I'll let Grunwald tell the rest of the story, especially as it relates to Paul Ryan's undeserved reputation as a "deficit hawk" :
Paul Ryan did oppose the Obama stimulus, as did every other House Republican. But behind-the-scenes there was a debate going on within the GOP caucus. One side led by Minority Whip Eric Cantor of Virginia wanted to make sure the Republican vote against the Obama bill was unanimous. But to do that there had to be a GOP alternative that had plenty of highway projects and other spending that Republican moderates and concrete lovers could support -- so they would have something to say yes to while saying no to Obama. The other side was led by Conference Chair Mike Pence of Indiana, who argued that the whole point of fiscal conservatism was opposing government spending, that the Republicans shouldn’t be trying to out-New Deal the Democrats.
“You can’t say spending does nothing for economic growth and then on the other hand, let’s put it all in highways,” one conservative leadership aide recalled.
So the Republican leadership decided to fall off both sides of the horse. The official $478 billion Republican stimulus alternative was an ideological bill, consisting entirely of tax cuts and unemployment benefits, with not a penny for infrastructure or other spending. But Republicans also crafted a second $715 billion substitute that was almost as expansive as the $787 billion bill Obama signed into law. It slashed spending on Obama priorities like energy efficiency, the smart grid, summer jobs programs, and aid to help cash-strapped states avoid massive layoffs of teachers and cops, but it actually increased spending on highways and the environmentally destructive water projects of the Army Corps of Engineers. Republicans never explained how $715 billion worth of tax cuts and spending could be good public policy while $787 billion worth of tax cuts and spending was freedom-crushing socialism. In the minority, they didn’t have to. And Paul Ryan? As usual, he fell off both sides of the horse. He voted for the ideological tax-cut bill that would have increased the deficit, and the political spending bill that would have increased the deficit. And then he railed about Obama and the Democrats increasing the deficit.
“They shocked the American people,” he later explained. “They certainly shocked me…Bam! Out of the gates, these people had a hard-core left agenda…They used the rhetoric of freedom and choice and opportunity to sell an inherently statist agenda.”
Yes, the rhetoric of choice and opportunity. Like the rhetoric a certain congressman from Wisconsin used on October 7, 2009, when he wrote Labor Secretary Hilda Solis to push a stimulus grant for a local group.
There was one other point I wanted to make about your assertion that liberals never applaud people on their side who vote against their own position. I don't know about that, but it does remind me of an argument I had this weekend at our family reunion with this right wing relative of mine who said President Obama is a terrible leader who simply lacks any idea of what leadership is about -- obviously reflecting the Fox News talking points he has thoughtlessly absorbed through osmosis.
I said a mark of leadership is proposing something you know will get you in hot water with your own team, and by that measure Obama gets high marks for his attempted "grand bargain" with Speaker Boehner on the deficit.
In an attempt to get Republicans to give up their sacred cow on no tax hikes on the rich, Obama was willing to put on the table cuts or reforms to the heart and soul of the Democratic Party -- Social Security.
I thought he was nuts, as did many other liberals, not only on the merits but as a political tactic. You don't negotiate with terrorists or supply side ideologues who will pocket your willingness to give up on social entitlements and then say no way on "job killing tax increases -- which is exactly what Republicans did. But in terms of going against ideology and self interest in the quest for something apporaching the greater good, Democrats beat Republicans hand down, as Obama's performance in the debt negotations showed.
Republicans were so fixed in their position the US almost defaulted on its debt for the first time in history when the radical Tea Party faction refused to raise the debt ceiling unless its ransom was paid
I will let New Republic tell the rest of the story:
The contours of the $4 trillion Grand Bargain leaked publicly at the same time it leaked that Republicans wouldn't cut the deal, so it largely managed to escape the attention of liberals that Obama was prepared to cut a really terrible deal. I'm actually okay with the entitlement cuts I've heard as part of the bargain -- it's not what I'd do if I were king, but as far as the list of concessions to political reality, it's bearable. I'd like to see a plausible target for domestic discretionary spending, which seems to be getting squeezed to ludicrously low levels.
Obama apparently is demanding that Republicans accede to the phase-out of the Bush tax cuts on income over $250,000. In return for that $800 billion in revenue, Obama has reportedly offered multiple times that amount in spending cuts. This sounds like a massively asymmetrical bargain. To begin with, Obama is trading for tax increases that, unlike the spending cuts he proposes to support, are scheduled to happen anyway at the end of 2013 unless the House, Senate, and President agree to extend them.
What's more, as Nate Silver argues, Obama's position -- that deficit reduction should consist of mostly spending cuts with some tax hikes -- places him roughly equivalent to the median Republican voter, while the GOP no-tax position is off the charts. And if you move beyond taxes versus spending in the abstract, which is always the most conservative friendly way to frame a budget question, the imbalance grows even more stark. Entitlement cuts are massively unpopular, higher taxes for the rich are extremely popular. If the budget debate were a presidential election, it would be a contest between Republican Michelle Bachmann and Democrat Rick Perry.
PS: My relative had nothing to say about my social security example and simply hurled another unrelated objection he'd heard on Fox that he challenged me to swat down, another favorite tactic of the right.
democrats re-nominate, and re-elect LBJ, who proceeds to do expand the war in southeast asia (which they screeched that Goldwater would do).
50,000+ american troops died. america's international standing was dragged through the mud. federal debt took off in earnest.
democrats were so disillusioned, that they protested en masse, during the 1998 (chicago) convention, when LBJ attempted to annoint Humber Horatio Hornblower Humphrey as the continuation of the regime.
is that the timeline you're suggesting which will be repeated in 2012?
those who are completely ignorant of history can't be condemned to repeat it of course - just subject themselves to ridicule
And I was worried my linking of 1964 Republicans with those circa 2012 may have been a stretch! You've got me beat.
Jay, if you would have left the names out of your piece it would be exactly what Obama and his ilk are doing now.
Frank, Obama will not run and the economy will get better. As you read some of the other comments people are all ready lining up to complain Obama lost by dirty tricks, aka Bush-Gore, and when Romney - Ryan get this country moving they are going to claim it is from the hold over effects of what Obama did. Obama blamed Bush for his failures in the last 4 years and will try to claim the victories of Romney.
And Obama will try to have it both ways. If, Romney fails Obama will not take the blame like he is trying to put on Bush.
Lakoff's theory that our politics are often connected strongly to our family upbringing -- whether in a Strict Father or Nurturent Parent household -- has always made sense to me because the psychology connected to that helps to explain the constellation of political positions that religious conservatives have that are inexplicable otherwise. How, for example, do you reconcile people who believe in a culture of life in which abortion is forbidden in all circumstances with the fact that they tend to be the most hawkish when it comes to war in the Middle East (especially involving Israel) that would result in the death of thousands of innocents? Or the fact that they are against gun control. And for the death penalty. And against welfare for single mothers. Say what you want about the Catholic Church but at least it is consistent in its positions on a "culture of life" -- against guns, war, abortion and for welfare for the poor.
That is what I said. I expect that Obama will not win.
… and the economy will get better.
We’ll see, but I expect that the economy will get much, much worse. I expect that we will see a global depression much more severe than the early 20th Century depression.
As you read some of the other comments people are all ready lining up to complain Obama lost by dirty tricks, aka Bush-Gore, and when Romney - Ryan get this country moving they are going to claim it is from the hold over effects of what Obama did. Obama blamed Bush for his failures in the last 4 years and will try to claim the victories of Romney.
First…they have to make the economy get better—then they can deal with claims that Obama deserves the credit. It ain’t gonna get better.
And Obama will try to have it both ways. If, Romney fails Obama will not take the blame like he is trying to put on Bush.
Jesus H. Christ…do you mean he is going to act like every goddam politician who has ever lived and try to dodge blame and take credit? Who ever woulda thunk it!
Who would thunk it? You would and you would be right except that I was thinking about the people here whining about it.
I think things will get better. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results, that is why things will get better. They are talking about GM needing another bailout. Their stock price has to double before the government can dump the rest of their stock and get our money back. You also hear talk about QE3, and they want another TARP! Crazy.
So once Obama loses and we know the make up of the House and Senate business will think things have changed and will spend some of the money they are sitting on, and hire people.
At first we will see unemployment numbers jump as those who have left the labor force rejoin and are again counted. It might stay up for awhile. The optimistic will come back soon to the labor force. The rest will start to return as they see their friends and family getting jobs.
So once Obama loses and we know the make up of the House and Senate business will think things have changed and will spend some of the money they are sitting on, and hire people.
Um hum…that’s the reason businesses are not spending money hiring people…because Obama is in the Oval Office and too many Democrats are in the congress.
Do you actually buy into this kind of nonsense…or are you just passing it on as a favor to FOX News?
And do you actually think American businesses are just dying to hire lots and lots of Americans at high wages to do jobs that can be done by third-world labor at one-tenth the price and by machines at one-tenth the cost of third-world laborers?
At first we will see unemployment numbers jump…
We could see that tomorrow if American businesses could pay workers 50 cents an hour to produce goods that can be gotten for 55 cents an hour somewhere else! Increasing the work force has never been the problem!
… as those who have left the labor force rejoin and are again counted. It might stay up for awhile. The optimistic will come back soon to the labor force. The rest will start to return as they see their friends and family getting jobs.
My snarky response to this would be: You oughta write a book, but don’t use the title Alice in Wonderland, because that has already been used.
A more polite response would be: Your heart is in the right place, Catnlion…and your optimism is a delight, but that ain’t gonna happen.
The problem of why we (and most of the rest of the world) have fewer and fewer decent paying jobs for the grunts who make up a majority of the workforce is a lot more complicated than you suppose. Solving that particular problem will require changes of cosmic proportions...and will certainly be a lot more than changing the political party in control.
Thank you for your insights. We are on the same page. After covering the State House for several years I joined with those who helped the Massachusetts GOP regain respectability in the 1990s so as to return the semblance of two-party government to a state that had one-party rule for far too long. Three straight Republicans were elected governor beginning in 1990, spanning four terms, despite overwhelming Democratic superiority in voter registration and legislative representation.
So, after winning office by declaring political competition essential to the health of democracy, imagine my surprise when the national GOP turned around and started promoting one-party rule as a positive good -- a "permanent Republican majority" in Karl Rove's words -- in which the corrupt big city Democratic machines of a Richard Daley or James Michael Curley were NATIONALIZED via Tom DeLay's K Street Project, among other tactics.
The bitter fruit is there for all to sample. It's no coincidence that of the two Democratic presidents elected in the Post-Reagan right wing era, one was impeached in a constitutional coup d'etat and the other denied citizenship through a birther dog whistle campaign.
From here it is not too big a leap to the efforts to institutionalize minority rule via abuse of the filibuster, or to steal elections via voter suppression, or to destroy the foundations of politics itself as a means of resolving differences by declaring a refusal to compromise to be a fundamental principle of a new Rightest Republican Party. Authoritarian is the proper word.
I don't believe, however, that Romney is grudging about his candidacy. He was fully prepared to say whatever he could to appease the "base" while not making himself out to be a total idiot.
It remains to be seen whether his timing is right. His appeal is to no issue or purpose, but to a threatened constituency with a mob mentality. My God the conventions have gotten boring.
What else is new Ted?
Electing Romney would not result in the third president in under 18 months
The economy was not in the tank, (and nice touch blaming it all on Bush in the last sentence so left leaning teenagers editing here can jerk their knee into the laptop giving you the EP. )
We had fundamental disputes around social justice akin to PIECES of what we have today.
We did not have the decades long track record of economic modeling inaccuracy with these social programs that we're fiscally irresponsible to glibly ignore today. We live longer. The actuarial underpinnings do not work.
So yes, we have some wing nuts. We always have wing nuts.
These wing nus are not as bad as social wing nuts as how does one talk people out of deeply held emotional beliefs?
People concerned with efficiency and each of us having skin in the game will grasp math. If we patiently articulate numbers, they will get it.
MSNBC panning Christy do not get it. It is not about cult of personality as savior. It is not Gideon's horn echoing in the Rotunda as Obama the savior descending from on high to rip up defaulted mortgages and bust GM preferred bonds to save union jobs
Mitt is not a savior. He's a problem solver with more operational successes than failures. He will get government back in the business of calling balls and strikes in the free market while we the people feel confident enough to put our capital back in play to BUILD THINGS.
Goldwater's issue was creeping federalism. Very ethereal. Indeed he stayed the course there later in life to the point of being painted a senile liberal by the so cons ignorantly think they carry his or Reagan's torch.
So I disagree. This could be FDR/Dewey if you by Amity Shlaes or it is Carter/Reagan as I opined under the name Gwool here in '08.
Would a guy like Bill Weld stood a chance. He was my hero as a MA fincom chair/selectman.
Can't wait to write about the cluster that was my back surgery, but this story arc is pretty tenuous. Sorry.
Regards
NeMac
In other words, my fear is 2004, not 1964.