NOVEMBER 1, 2008 4:30PM

13 Year Old Girl Confirmed Dead

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Kicking and screaming in terror, the girl was carried into the stadium. 1,000 onlookers watched as her hands and legs were forcefully bound.

When anguished family members broke from the crowd and ran towards her, the militia opened fire. A small boy was killed.

13 year old  Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow was buried up to her neck and a cape was placed over her head, leaving only her face exposed. 50 men hurled stones at her face from the truckload unloaded earlier that day.

Her crime was being raped by 3 men. When she reported the rape to the militia who control Kismayo, Somalia, she was charged with fornication (adultery) and sentenced to death by stoning. At 13.

Her father told Amnesty International the act of reporting the crime resulted in her accusation.

She officially confirmed her guilt” Sheikh Hayakalah, the Sharia court judge, said in remarks broadcast on Radio Shabelle.

According to onlookers, 3 times nurses were instructed to check whether she was still alive. They pulled the teen from the ground, declared she was still alive and put her back in the hole for the stoning to continue.

David Copeman of Amnesty International said “This was not justice, nor was it an execution. This child suffered a horrendous death...”

None of men who raped her were arrested.

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I think this is past sick. I have no words to describe something at a level beyond human.
No oil in Somalia. Don't expect Bush or McCain to help put an end to this. I do recall Clinton at least trying. It's sickening to the core and stone-age barbaric.
I think about the little boy running to her, crying. Maybe a little brother or little nephew. I think of her watching him gunned down right before the stones started to fly. I don't have words for the amount of sorrow that wells up inside me. I felt like the least I could do is say something. Thanks for doing the same.
The "nurses" checked to see if she was dead? Any one of the monsters throwing stones could have checked for a pulse, but they had "nurses" do it. This whole thing seems so hideously institutionalized and ritualized. A "judge" found her guilty? It's unbelievable to me that judges and nurses in any society could be involved in such heinous crimes. This makes me sick.
This is a sickening, unimaginable evil. How are we to respond to such a thing, as a nation and as individuals? I fear there is nothing we can do. Is there? Is there really anthing anyone can do beside initiate a response that would entail more bloodshed, more tragedy?
I can only blend my voice with Procopius. I feel ill, and helpless at feeling ill, what good does feeling ill do, but what else can be done?
Somehow this reminds me of the same people who immigrated to Canada when I was there. They got busted doing female circumcision with a piece of broken glass. The girls were all ages four and up.
Chris, you're right... It's institutionalized and ritualized and it's done that way to demoralize women.

Procopius & Sandra... just personally, I know I can't do a darn thing to change this. But I figure that some things I can change, and others I can only learn from. When I see women living like this, it makes me determined that I will never, never vote for anyone that would take away even one right that a woman or a human has here. I will not be any part of seeing people regress even one step. It's not much, but it's all I can do. That, and support those who would help.

Suzy... you're probably quite right. I remember reading an article in which those mothers cried and said it was their culture to do so and they "had to." Reminds me of the old saying "everywhere I go, there I am."
My heart aches to read this. Once again, all I can do
is be a Beacon of LOVE and radiate that Beacon out
to all beings where ever they may be, and regardless
of what they have done.

MAY ALL BEINGS BE HAPPY
Wow...I just...have no words. Thank you for posting this. These types of situations are just beyond understanding.
This makes me feel sick to my stomach.

I hate to think that people like us can't make a difference, I really do.
Lissa... I know what you mean. I keep thinking there's got to be something, but I just don't know what. And it's horrible.
This is so terrible and sad, not least because while this story gets told, we can only imagine how many thousands of others that are similar have not been told over the years.

When people say there is no need for feminism in the world, they should be made to go live in a society like this for a good long time.
I am not made ill by this. I am filled with rage. This is the sort of thing that would inspire me to kill if I could so do legally and without moral misgivings.

A scary admission, but true.
Makes one yearn for there really to be a Jehovah, who could rain down a flood for contemptible societies like this - or for a world to wake up and say, like a pissed-off slugger: "Fuck you, Jo-Bu, I do it myself". But like someone above said - no oil...
I am speechless. I really don't have the words to describe the feelings that this story instills in me, but you may certainly conclude that they don't include anything resembling understanding towards what passes for the Somali legal system, or anyone who would voluntarily take part in or witness such a thing.
This is one of the most disturbing events I've ever heard of. She's a child who had the horrible misfortune of being raped. No punishment for the rapists? Nurses pulled her out three times, determined she was alive, and reburied her? Despicable! They've allowed the wrong people to live.
Most of the people of Somalia are Sunni Muslims. Is this act of barbarism somehow sanctioned by the religion, or is this a "lunatic fringe?" I don't know what we can do about such inhumane treatment.
No words. Just horror.
Silkstone... I completely agree with your comment about feminism.

RickyB... "no oil" -- so sad and so true.

Lisa... You got that right! (the wrong people lived)

John and Roger... There is no functioning government in Somalia, and hasn't been since 1991 when Islamic militants with ties to al-Qaida overthrew the government. Nearly every public institution has collapsed, fighting is a daily occurrence and 25% of Somali die before they turn 5. So yeah... lunatic fringe... and no one is helping... and it's horrible.
Another example of the pervasive enslavement of women. It is sickening when you see family helpless in saving a child, who they love with a natural intensity, put down by the cowards of the state.
This was physically painful to read. I went to the news sites too. It's some level of distraction that the focus is on the age correction--apparently it had been reported at first that she was 23 and now it's a big deal to correct the record to 13. Like it was OK when she was 23 or something.

You know what I think? Globalization is the answer. Integrated markets would spread all the "evils" of westernization to these hidden pockets of the world, but guess what? Those evils include communication technology devices that would shut this death machine down in a heartbeat. I'm talking about cell phones, of course, and all the media. Evil like this does not exist in transparent societies.
This is the kind of religious law that makes it difficult for other nations to condemn without condemning the religions that support such practices.
It would certainly have gone a long way down the road to a public condemnation by our government if they had anything we wanted. We stop condemning China for human rights violations because they give us money for oil. We won't condemn the Saudi's for supporting Bin Laden with money because they sell us oil.
And a 13-year-old girl is stoned to death in Somalia because she was raped, and all we can do is express our outrage by writing about it. I'm going to go say a small prayer on her behalf. Then I'm going to go to bed. But I doubt sleep will come soon.
I'm ashamed to share the same species as these people.

Rated.
That poor girl and her poor family. As if being raped were not bad enough for a child her age, SHE's the one who is killed by a mob, not the bastards who raped her! And she died in pain and terror.

It's sickening that anyone anywhere in the world could have such a warped concept of justice or of women to think that she's the one who deserved such treatment.
Boomer, I hadn't heard of this, thank you for posting about it.

I think Amnesty is clarifying her age because it makes it even more clear that she was an innocent victim. There are people who would say "Oh, a 23 y.o. girl, sure, she was fooling around." Most people would not believe that a 13 y.o. girl would choose to have sex with 3 men, however. So it makes the ruling even more clearly heinous.

Sharia law is based on extremely radical interpretations of the Quran, similar to the way that extreme radical Christians insist on a literal interpretation of the Bible, and it makes about as much sense. It also tremendously warps many of the teachings of the Quran, as seems to happen with just about any religious text, in order to benefit those who have or want power.

One thing to remember is that in monotheistic, male-oriented religions, women are generally considered to be evil temptresses; the mere sight of a woman can drive a good man to impure thoughts and actions. This is the philosophy behind the burqa, and laws prohibiting women leaving their homes without a male relative--it's all to prevent women from tempting men into sin. MY approach would be to teach the dumb-asses some self control, but as it's a male-centric belief system, they blame the woman instead.

Also, in many places that practice Sharia law, rape cannot be proven unless FOUR (yes, FOUR) male Muslim men attest to the truth of the victim's allegation. In absence of such "proof," the woman is treated as though she has admitted to adultery/fornication. This gives men a lot of impunity to behave badly without worry of prosecution.

There are ways to help. There are local grass roots organizations, UN programs, Amnesty programs, etc., that aim to change beliefs from the ground up. For instance, there is now a movement in Egypt to have local women educated about the illegality, cruelty, and harm involved in female genital mutilation; these women then go out and meet with other women in nearby villages or neighborhoods, who are more likely to listen to a local woman than to an outsider.

Many times, articles about activist/grass-roots organizations will have contact info or at least a program name; that can lead you to making a donation directly to the people who are doing the work locally. Also, Amnesty has an "Action" page that lists specific targeted issues; click on the link and you'll go to a form page that allows you to send messages to whomever Amnesty has decided is most likely to be able to effect change.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/violence-against-women/action/page.do?id=YIA0039035000E

Imagine the tragedy of the entire life of this poor child: born into a country in chaos; raised in an atmosphere of civil war, danger, and instability; living in refugee camps; raped by three grown men; and then suffering a long, hideously painful death for the "crime" of being raped. Where in her life was there ever any peace or happiness? I'm guessing it was exceedingly rare.

So. Make donation, write a letter, find a group that does what you think needs doing and give them the help they ask for. No child, no woman, no HUMAN BEING, should ever have to endure such a travesty of a life.
What happened to the UN? I thought they were there to stop this kind of crap.

The conflict there has gone on for centuries. To stop it would require a large invasion force to control the country and trillions of dollars to rebuild. We already have our hands full, and who ever does it will go the same way as Bush so I don't look for it to happen anytime soon.

So how do we get the UN to step up and do what it is chartered to do? This kind of stuff has to stop, and it's not just here.

There was an article where a girl in Iran was raped and sentenced to hang. One day a wrecker showed up in the court yard, they put a rope around her neck and lifted her up. That's not a hanging That's a strangulation. Slow, frighting and painful.
Oh ye gods. It is impossible for my mind to grasp this as reality - but I know it is. Obscene and evil. There is no context which makes this acceptable.
All of you here speak English.

Therefore, you are most likely citizens of the countries such as the USA, Canada, Great Britain and Australia.

All of you profess to be enraged, incapable of understanding how such a society is allowed to murder innocents. You demand an immediate intervention.

How unfortunate for you that there is so much blood on your own hands already. Your taxes went to your governments to enable them to kill tens of thousands, perhaps millions just like the girl above - in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in poor hovels around the world for decades into the past.

You weep for the death of one.

Yet you ignore your own responsibility in the murder of millions

Yes, the world is full of evil people - and you and I are one of them.

Perhaps, before we rush out in a noble, ill-intentioned effort to cleanse the world of evil, we might want to spend some time cleaning our own house first.
Fred Smith said:
All of you here speak English.

Therefore, you are most likely citizens of the countries such as the USA, Canada, Great Britain and Australia.

All of you profess to be enraged, incapable of understanding how such a society is allowed to murder innocents. You demand an immediate intervention.

How unfortunate for you that there is so much blood on your own hands already. Your taxes went to your governments to enable them to kill tens of thousands, perhaps millions just like the girl above - in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in poor hovels around the world for decades into the past.

You weep for the death of one.

Yet you ignore your own responsibility in the murder of millions

Yes, the world is full of evil people - and you and I are one of them.

Perhaps, before we rush out in a noble, ill-intentioned effort to cleanse the world of evil, we might want to spend some time cleaning our own house first.


Wow, Fred - how very judgmental of you, thinking that all of us are ignorant of our government's actions in our names. You couldn't be further from the truth, but hey - don't let that stop you.

I guess we're all tarred with the "guilt by association" brush whenever someone from another country finds out we're "American". You need to remember, Fred, that simply because one person leads this country that does not mean all of its citizens agree with that leader.

So, tell us Fred - where are YOU from? And give us your reasons for condemning all of us. I, for one, would love to know how clean YOUR hands are.
Fred is right. We have not done enough to stop the injustice that we can stop. And we all are guilty of that.
Good conversation....

Fred... you're right. Our taxes go to whatever the government wants to spend the dollars on. And too often, that money goes to kill innocents. We don't get to choose how our tax dollars are spent, and opting out of paying taxes is not an option.

Yet, Bill is right, too, in saying how very judgmental of you, thinking that all of us are ignorant of our government's actions in our names

IMHO, it is not a case of being ignorant of what government does, it's a case of feeling impotent - unable to do anything.

Leigh is right in saying we have not done enough to stop the injustice that we can stop. The tricky part is the word "can".... Which ones CAN we stop as individuals.

When that little boy from Iraq was burned beyond recognition, CNN gave a url and said "here's where you can donate" and we did. Average Americans and Canadians and Aussies and Brits and people all over the world gave to right a wrong done to one little boy.

But the horrors that Islamic women live - death for being raped - how do we help? I don't know that. If I did, I'd post it.

And Lainey? .... you are sooo right.
Our government is made up of elected officials. Elected supposedly by the majority. That doesn't mean that the whole country is behind them or their policies. So I don't appreciate being lumped in with the people who made sure dubya got two terms.
I don't know about everyone else, but I definitely do what I can - I make sure I vote in every primary and every election. Other than an armed insurrection, that's how the system is supposed to work.

Oh, and notify your representatives about how you feel regarding pending legislation and bills.
opting out of paying taxes is not an option.

Yes, in fact, it is. It would be called a "tax revolt," and it is entirely feasible. It just requires sufficient participation.
Bill, arguably, that isn't enough. And I'm not saying I've done enough either, because I haven't.

But I believe because this is our government, it's our responsibility, whether we voted it in or not.

Americans have become WAY too complacent. We're all at home busying ourselves with programming the Tivo. If we really wanted to, we could grind this entire country to a halt until our troops were withdrawn.

Or, as I said above, we could simply refuse to pay taxes until our troops were withdrawn.

The French know how to do it. When a large enough minority is unhappy enough, the government changes its mind and reverses course. We are certainly a large enough minority, but except for congratulating ourselves on our ability to be "progressive" and vote for Obama, most of us haven't done shit.

I don't know why not. It wasn't that long ago that we stopped the war in Viet Nam. Or challenged voter suppression and apartheid in Selma.

My point is, we have it in us. It's just an instinct that's been asleep for many years now.
Fred, don't be an asshole. Sounds like you can't help it but try not to be. None of the people on this board (or VERY,VERY few) support the War. I was opposed from the very beginning.

Don't come in here and spread judgmentalism and spew hatred and expect to not be challenged. If you want to address me in regards to this, take it to private.
Fred has a point but he's not talking to the people responsible for our misguided leadership. Go to freerepublic.com and give them a piece of your mind but be prepared to be stoned or at least called a Blame America Firster.
Boomer, and anyone else who may be interested, one of the ways we CAN help is to support people like Greg Mortensen, the author of a fantastic book entitled "Three Cups of Tea."

He's been working for many years to build local schoolhouses in small villages in Afghanistan, because the alternative is an Al Quaeda education, a madrassa, where young men are taken from their families and indoctrinated into the most horrifically fundamental form of Islamism.

What you're seeing above is a direct result of that kind of indoctrination. The more educational opportunities exist for these communities, the less contagious extremism becomes.
Greg Mortensen, the author of a fantastic book entitled "Three Cups of Tea."

Leigh... thank you for that! I just ordered the book and will check more into Mortensen's work and how I can support it. I currently sponsor education/health costs for children in Haiti and send when they send me letters, they mean the world to me. I'm not Bill Gates, but I do as much as I can to try make what difference I can.
New item on my wish list - ability to edit my own comments for when my mind and fingers aren't at the same speed. *sigh*
If we really wanted to, we could grind this entire country to a halt until our troops were withdrawn.

I don't disagree, Leigh. But you need more than ten people to do it, and that is the problem. Look at what it takes to get just a majority to agree that eight years of Republican leadership is enough, and we can't even be sure that it's a true majority just yet.
I do what is within my power. Unless there is some extreme repression in this country, you won't see another Boston Tea Party.
This has been a great discussion and everybody's heart is in the right place, I think. I take Fred's argument as I think it was intended: a call to action by all of us to do just a bit more than we've been doing. I think, if I'm reading his comment correctly, he was not excluding himself from blame.

Since Greg Mortenson's Three Cups of Tea came up, I wanted to let everyone know that my sister Jennifer Comeau released a musical CD (Feed the Tribe) this summer whose proceeds go entirely to Mortenson's Central Asia Institute. (Her debut concert channeled a minor percentage of the profits to her local charity, the Kennebunkport Conservation Trust.) Here is a link to one of the places you can get her CD, but I wanted to caution you that I just listened to the audio and it sounds a bit anemic here compared to the real thing. http://cdbaby.com/cd/jennifercomeau">http://cdbaby.com/cd/jennifercomeau

You can probably find other ways to get it if you want--I'm not on top of all that--but if you end up conversing with her via email, tell her you know and love her sister Lainey! She'll be thrilled. I'm very proud of her; she was trained as an engineer and has an MBA, but she's a poet at heart. She wrote the music and the lyrics for this, and she sings it as well. She's very talented.
No matter how much you may believe in relativism or a country's right to self determination, there is no way you can rationalize or justify something like this.

Sometimes the horrors an individual goes through are almost easier to imagine than horrors suffered by millions. Not because we are unsympathetic, or ignore the effects of national policy in the world, but because it's less abstract and easier to picture ourselves or a loved one suffering that fate. Huge numbers of people remain anonymous, whereas an individual whose face we have seen has an identity and a personality we can imagine.

I understand Fred's point, but take exception with a couple of his statements. I object to the assumption that because I may express outrage about the treatment of one girl, I"m therefore unaware or unconcerned about the treatment of millions. Secondly, I don't know about Fred's character, but I object to being called evil based on the idea that my government may commit or contribute to atrocities, or that I myself could do more to combat evil.

Could I, we, do more? Yeah, we all probably could. Do we? Will we?
FM... good points. Will we? Probably not. I mean, I do. Constantly. But everyone? Not likely. But... just imagine what we could do if every person with a roof over their head made it a point to help one person in need. We could move mountains.

Lainey... thanks! I'm going to check out your sister's cd!