it is. trust me on this. she just went to the bathroom, she's waiting in line for it, she's like second in line, so we have a few minutes, maybe more, but at least a few, so time's kinda of the essence here.
you've ruined the date, your first date, it's over. cause you ruined it. she came here first, she sat at the bar, and she was excited. you could just tell. the trill, the tee-hee, the twitter in her voice when she snuck in a call to her friend. (when they call their friends right before, that's a good sign, one of the best.) hushed breathless anticipatory tones. you showed up, and the look in her eyes, the sparkle the gleam the glint. i've seen that look. not directed at me, but ... at others. that's the look of 'this could be something here.'
it could have been but now it's not.
what killed it - no, not killed it, but ... struck it a crippling blow - was when you made damn sure the coupon you had was valid and could be used on your dinner. you could have asked but you didn't. you said i CAN use this coupon, CAN'T i? i'm ten feet away and i heard you crystal clear. you said it too loud. i don't think that impressed her very much.
did you see anything on the menu that was super expensive? you couldn't've. it's not possible, cause everything's comparatively cheap. that's how we stay in business. we don't exactly thrive, but we sure as shit survive. i was able to buy a car thanks to this place, a car.
and in my experience, this place is a bad idea for a first date and a bad idea made EVEN WORSE by using a coupon in a haughty tone. hey, hey hey hey, i don't make the rules, i just live by 'em, as we all must.
and just for your information, i was stone broke once. shit, first five years after college, shit, paycheck to paycheck? i know what that's like. lucky for me i never had any dates. lucky for me, a woman wouldn't've touched me with the ten foot pole of their worst ENEMY. so i didn't hafta worry bout seducing on a shoe-string. but if i DID, i wouldn't've used a coupon. i woulda found a way to woo 'em without looking like scrooge mcduck. (i used to promise myself i would were i ever given the chance.)
and your haughty tone. she didn't care for that. (tone accounts for a lot, it speaks to character.) where'd you get that haughty tone, finishing school? you go to that school that's in gossip girl? that where you made your tone so haughty? you're not so big. i imagine you get your ass beat, a regular basis, you talk to someone like that, with that tone. (steve, he knows how to handle that tone. there's these regulars who he doesn't like very much and they don't like him either, but they keep requesting his station, then they use that tone on him.)
hey, don't get all kill the messenger with me. I'M not the one sounds like george plimpton in high dudgeon. I'M not the one sounds like buckley taking umbrage.
but, that's not even what killed this date. no sirree bob, the thing that killed it, the coup de GRACE was when you ordered for her, a medium new york strip with mashed on the side. she didn't want that. know how i know? cause she was trying to tell you she didn't, that's what all those uhhs and umms and actuallys were for, and how she kept perusing the menu. but you cut her off, with a dismissive wave of the hand and then your boorish insistence that no no no the new york strip is a good steak (it is, but ... you know ... that's not exactly germane to this here discussion).
that, dear boy, is the death knell. the presumptuous ordering for her then ordering the wrong thing. ask not for whom the bell tolls, or whatever, cause you're done.
she's in the bathroom right now, so she'll be back momentarily then we'll see if i'm right or if i'm wrong (i'm right).
look, okay, look, i know what you're trying to tell me, you're ... all right, good, you just told me, fine, you can tell me to 'i go on plenty of dates and i am doing fine, it goes swimmingly well' all you want, you really can, but wait and see. she'll come back icy as an iceberg. (dollars to donuts, she didn't really have to pee or whatever. she just wanted to get away from your boorish haughty ass, if only for a moment or two.) you'll be all like, shall we continue this elsewhere? a few drinks? i know of a place that is perfectly charming (you probably have a two for one drinks coupon for it, especially if the place you're talking about is that faux irish hunka crap that's going under, and boy is that place ever not charming). she'll say something like hell no, something of that nature. you will, most likely, misinterpret that as a desire on her part to just head back to yours or hers for at the very least the removal of a few interesting, randy articles of clothing.
(this is not what she has in mind.)
make no mistake, she wants to go home. her home. alone. without you. or to a place where some of her friends are so they can give her words of encouragement, tell her to hang in there, there's someone out there who doesn't have an upper crusty nasally voice and who'll let you order the broiled walleye (if that's what she wanted to order).
i do hope, though, that when she opts to just hop in a cab right out front, you go in for the kiss. i'd love to see that, and i will be waiting inside, at the front window, watching. cause she will drop you like a safe and i wanna see how she does it, what manner she chooses. could be the flinch, could be the look away, could be the offered cheek, could be the pity peck, could be the wave off and subsequent handshake, could be the smile-and-shake-my-head-and-chortle-at-your-thinking-i-was-gonna-kiss-you. fact is, i don't know how she'll do it. i'm dying to find out.


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And, oh, for the record, she is so totally calling her friend in the bathroom or at least texting her to tell her what a jerk this guy is. Or perhaps, she is maybe calling her friend to pick her up outside and going out the back entrance.
May this Boory McBoorsten spend the rest of his years ordering half-price NY strips for his right hand.
I mean, I NEVER presumed to order for my dates. All three times.
This is Darwinism in action, squirrel. Survival of the fittest means his sperm will die a lonely death on a toilet seat. As it should be.
then she got in her car real fast.
my wife has a 'tone' :/ It sounds especially funny with her Texas accent. This will probably offend everyone here but I call it the "I've got my PhD voice" I love her, but that attitude, she never pulls that shit at home.
Great. I've seen both acts. Buckley was really impressive during the Repub Natl Conf. when Gore Vidal called him a cryptonazi. Big Bill threatened to take Vidal out in the alley and beat his ass. Poor little GV was shaking like an old dog passing peach pits.
And I've seen these dates before myself.
Oh, yes I would.
I have ALWAYS been a magnet for men like that, and they always thought they had carte blanche to be all of the above just because they were rich or good looking or both.
Men like that are the one good reason why I started dating women. Many years down the road I finally found one who wasn't (all of the above) - and I asked him to marry me.
::SHUDDER: Uck, I'm having creepster flashbacks
Excellent post, jeez squirrel, sometimes you are almost TOO real
classic.
Now he does it on some dates and he doesn't understand why he's not getting a good reception.
Gah. I just shivered.
Help yourself, squirrel. Some folks just know a good simile when they see one. Ahem.
As for the ordering, in my very short career as a waitress, I had one man who ordered for his wife. He must have seen the surprise on my face, because he explained that he likes to figure out how she is feeling that night and what she would want to eat. Apparently if he gets it wrong she will speak up, and I can attest to the fact that she chose her own dressing for the house salad. Maybe she was the Annie to her John Glenn. Who knows?
b. I am kind of wondering about the title they gave it... "How to blow a first date...from an eyewitness". Maybe it's just me. Maybe not?
If the woman in question was attracted enough to the guy in question, all of the so-called 'mistakes' would have been forgiven.
The coupon would have been a demonstration of 'thrift', not 'cheap and classless'.
The 'Buckley taking umbrage' tone would have been interpreted as 'confidence' and 'worldliness'.
And ordering for her would have been dismissed as "He knows the restaurant's specialties best, and he wanted to make sure I tried their signature dish".
Don't believe me?
Just read the Salon interview with Erik von Markovik
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2007/08/06/mystery_qa/index.html
or, better yet, read "Charlie Wilson's War".
In each case, the man is question is a certified grade-A jerk...and he gets more action than he knows what to do with.
Yes, maybe if the man in the story had made NO mistakes, he would have had Date 2. But if these minor issues were enough to 'turn off' the woman in question, then she wasn't that 'turned on' to begin with.
I've see dates that have gone very bad in my day. Heck, my wife and I have had a few less than stellar dates. Nothing quite that bad but...
I worked at a restaurant where the 'couple' had a screaming match and she left. Him at the restaurant. He had to call a cab. It looked pretty bad for the guy. Most of the waitresses cheered for the woman. It was odd. Never really found out what it was all about.
And no, I don't think coupons are gauche. W/the price of everything, I'm surprised anyone can afford to date at all.
I'm waiting to see the woman's point of view of this: how does a man look when HE thinks the date is a total bust?
BTW--I would NEVER call a GF or anyone else while out on a date. Now THAT'S really bad manners. I answered personal ads for 10 yrs and never once thought about calling from the "scene of the crime." Time enough to howl about it w/GFs on the phone at home...
elsmao3, I think the call was made before the guy showed up.
But...I don't care if we're out at a hamburger joint, I wouldn't ever stand for someone ordering for me. If I'd liked him up to that point I'd assert myself pleasantly. If I knew the date was already a loss, I'd say sweetly "Gosh you must be real hungry ordering yourself two dinners that way!" and then tell the waiter what I really wanted.
Thanks for a great story, Squirrel
But...
Do any guys under 50 years old still order for their dates? Especially a first date? This happens still today?
Maybe this story is an argument why the restaurant has to stop issuing those damn coupons. Save some poor, socially-inept cheepsters from their own idiocy.
Hell, if some woman asked me to order for her, I'd be looking to coyote my way out of the date, figuring she was some clingy bubble head to begin with.
Good stuff. I'm actually getting over my aversion to the punctuation thing as well. (Must be my inner Buckley clawing it's way out from my affable demeanor.)
Rated, naturally.