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AUGUST 3, 2009 3:53PM

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The only thing of interest from the weekend is I’m almost positive I caught Alan and Julie holding hands. But since A: I respect their privacy and secondly, the last thing I wanna do is make myself barf by talking bout someone holding hands with someone like Alan, I must move quick to safer, firmer, less barf-inducing subject matter.

So, what you get this afternoon is a list of baby names eliminated from contention by either Wife-asaurus or me.

Milo. This woulda been a fine name, til we realized we know a couple who have a son named Milo. So … Milo, we strike you off the list. Though if, in the next three months, we have a permanent falling-out with that couple, and we know we won’t ever talk to or cross paths with them again, Milo goes right back on the list of contenders.

David. My current Mexican bête noire is David. Clearly, I can’t name my son David, cause every time I talk to him or think of him, I’ll think of kitchen Mexican bête noire David, who didn’t feel like telling me he had things to add to the list of things I had to pick up from the store. He waited til I got all the way back to tell me he needed sausage, beans, tomatoes, cabbage and sour cream (not for the same dish, don’t worry). So I had to turn around and head right back, which I didn’t much feel like doing. As a result, we had the following little back and forth before I left:

ME: Jesus Christ, I was just at the goddamn store, why didn’t you tell me?

DAVID: I didn’t know!

ME: I told you I was going!

DAVID: No, you didn’t!

ME: Yes I did!

DAVID: No, you didn’t!

ME: Fine, fuck it, you go then!

DAVID: Is not my job!

(So we’re not naming him David.)

Otto. There’s a dachshund in the extended family named Otto. Otto’s okay if you’re a dachshund, but not exactly okay if you’re a human. I thought she was wasting ink by even jotting it down on the list of preliminary contenders. Though Otto is a palindrome. A palindromic name cannot be dismissed outta hand. (Bob, Anna, Eve, Tit, Boob, Poop, Ono, etc.)

Felix. There’s something bout the name Felix. Not quite sure what it is, but … has there been a cool Felix? That Felix the Cat wasn’t, no matter how much his theme song told you he was. (I never knew what the fuck was going on with those cartoons. Though Glen loved ‘em. He even had a Felix the Cat lunchbox.) And as far as Felix Unger goes, well … he wasn’t cool. He was funny, but only cause he was so neurotic, stuck living with a slob like Oscar Madison. You take Oscar Madison outta the equation, Felix Unger’s just some guy who got kicked out by his wife and now lives alone, cleaning his apartment all day long. That’s depressing. You don’t name your kid a depressing name.

Otis. Otis is an awesome name. Nothing depressing bout this name. Imagine how cool my kid’d be if he was named Otis. He’d be so cool I wouldn’t be able to take it. I’d freak the fuck out. You can color her unimpressed, though. She gets no heat from Otis, and … in the spirit of compromise, I agreed to eliminate Otis from the list of Heavy Hitters. (The secret to any successful relationship is compromise.)

Ezra. There was that crappy band Better Than Ezra. Why would I name my kid a name that’s gonna make me remember a crappy band? She fought like hell, she really did. She thinks Ezra’s a cool name, but there’s a few things about which I will say over my dead body. One of those things is giving my kid a name that’ll make me think of a band that was crappy.

Ben. Ben would be an awesome name. Wife-asaurus has different ideas. One of her exes was/is named Ben. I told her that was a pretty shitty excuse for striking a name off the list. She said so’s my excuse for Ezra. I said but Better Than Ezra really does suck and her ex also sucked but so did all her other exes from back then. She had a phase where all her ‘men’ were morons. That phase was well and truly over by the time I strolled into her life.

Ethan. I tried to read Ethan Hawke’s novel. I didn’t get very far. Plus, what kinda idiot cheats on Uma Thurman? I have the same problem with Fisher Stevens, who (legend has it) cheated on Michelle Pfeiffer, though it’s worse with Fisher Stevens, cause … well, Ethan Hawke’s Ethan Hawke. Fisher Stevens is no Ethan Hawke. And my kid will be no Ethan.

Aidan. Much like Milo, the name Aidan was taken from us by selfish friends who just had to have the name Aidan all to themselves. I hope they’re happy, knowing they took a perfectly good name and kept it. (In their defense, Aidan’s a hysterical kid, a total blast, and the name fits him. It just ticks me off that we can’t use it.)

Luke. Rhymes with puke, Duke, nuke, mook, cuke, gook, juke, kook and book (if you pronounce it slightly wrong). Need I go on?

Jacob. Not sure why we crossed Jacob off the list. Why did we? Cause Jacob from Lost turned out to be really lame by the time we saw who he was? Cause we both hated the movie Jacob’s Ladder? Cause if we wanted to call him Jake, I wouldn’t be able to stop myself from calling him Jake the Snake, and Jake the Snake is a dumb nickname for your kid, unless he plays sports, which our kid almost certainly won’t? I’m gonna hafta ask Wife-asaurus when she gets home. Maybe she remembers why we crossed Jacob off the list.

Eamon. Too trendy. It’s like Liam and Ewan. Sides, someone took those names too. As well as Owen. And Ian. And even Ioan. I woulda considered Owen and Ian (but not Ioan, which is too precious by at least half). Man oh man. All these couples taking names we mighta wanted. It’s like we’re being punished cause everyone else had kids already. It’s not our fault we waited til we were bored and couldn’t think of anything else to do with our lives so I knocked her up.

Simon. What a cool kid our kid’d be if we named him Simon. (Simon would go perfect with our last name. Perfect. And wow, maybe he’ll wind up realizing that he should grow a mustache like they had on Simon and Simon. This is a few years down the pike. He wouldn’t  have a mustache til he’s … sixteen, at least. But wow, could you imagine how proud I would be of my kid if he had an awesome mustache? Whatever he wanted, I would make sure he had, just cause of that mustache of his.) Alas, she won’t even entertain the notion. Why’s anyone’s guess, cause she won’t say. Prolly, it’s cause of another one of her moron exes

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Shoot. I was hoping for Felix.
positively fabulous. A++. thanks. my morning was crap until now...
My dear son's name wasn't absolutely decided until we'd met him, and the paperwork to make it all official with the government didn't get sent until he was a month old, just in case we changed our minds.

:-)
Rule number one, stay away from the heavy Biblical names, it's so hard to see little kids in parks being yelled at: "Jedidiah, stop hitting".
Rule # 2 : Stay away from the bad from names that work for animals, Milo being one.
Stay away from the Anglo Saxon, last name as first.
Rule 3: Give your kid a name with odd letters, did not realize how cool that was considered.
Rule # 4: Go for Greek mythological names, no one is doing that,
Aristophanes, Apollo, Xenophon, Zeno, Menelaus, Pythagoras,
start a new trend.
PS, I made a mess of that comment, oh well,
check this out before deciding Popular Names Social Securities statistics on names, by state and year.
A very pregnant friend and I were discussing names for the yet to be born kid, when her four-year-old wandered into the room. He listened for a while, then, exasperated, said "Why not PIG?" and "Why not BOAT?" Plainly, he found the whole thing tiresome. Was he in for a surprise when that baby was actually born! Best of luck to you, HB
You know, there's a book about a squirrel I loved as a kid named Perri.

Have you considered Perry?

:-)
Otto is the perfect shape for a weiner dog. Sort of tubular, like a long, low little pup-type, rounded at the ends, like you can draw a snout and ears on one "O" and a whippy little tail coming out of the other, you know? I'm just sayin'.

My brother named his kid "Arthur" and I told him congratulations, you just doomed my nephew to living through 12 years of school as "Art the fart".
Ack! Don't listen to Verbal! No Perry! No Percy, either. No Cedric. Just don't.
A FOAF recounted a story about her little niece's suggestions for names for her soon-to-be-born baby brother. "Stick" was the most entertaining suggestion she had, which neatly illustrated how she felt about the whole situation.
We are going through the same thing. It seems like the first thing people want to know when they find out you're up the spout is what names you have picked out. Ugh, it's so hard. I think I mostly agree with your wife on names. I like Ezra. (Who's going to remember the crappy band when they meet your charming child?) I do not like Simon. It makes me think of that SNL skit with Mike Myers sitting in the bathtub singing, "Well you know my name is Simon, and I like to make draw-rings." (Bum-looker!) Although I have to admit I enjoyed the original drawing Simon on Romper Room.
How about Rocky, Bruno, Max, Maximo, Maximus, Frank, Franco, Nigle, Ian, Orville?
Fine, UK. No Perry.

Well, then, we'll have to go literal. Grey is a lovely name for a boy, isn't it? Grey Squirrel. Has a ring to it.

(But next time I buy a pagan baby, I am SO naming it Perry! :-P)
I like Grey Squirrel. It has a mainstream feel to it.
Well, at first I was going to suggest Fleagle as a tribute, then I realized that's just ass-retarded on my part. Whaddya think about Skip? It's kind of hard to hate a guy named Skip. Not Skippy, Skip. Skippy is a horrible peanut butter, Skip is a fella you could shake hands with.
Pick a family name from a previous generation of your side of the family for his first name. It's especially good if multiple nicknames can be made from it because then he can choose one later. Use his mother's maiden name for his middle name.
Dang...I was hoping for Garland...xox
My sister and b-in-law were STILL trying to iron out the name thing two weeks after my nephew's birth. So I get this phone call that starts with, 'Promise you won't laugh' (which pretty much guarantees you will), and she tells me. 'But your CAT is named Hunter [S. Tomcat]!' sez I. And then they didn't give the cat a new name, so you'd reap all KINDS of hell if you slipped up ('Hunter is the B.A.B.Y., people!'),, until elder nephew Taylor decides that he's gonna call the cat 'OUR Tinker' - as opposed to another cat in the family named Tinker. We were all so exhausted by then that it sounded like a great name - as would anything by that point. Much later, their tiny new neighbour interpreted 'Hunter and Taylor' as 'Humpter and Trailer' and, well, that was just so f'in perfect, it stuck.
don't forget that milo was the name of a main character in the 80's and 90's comic strip Bloom County. he was a great character, but you might want to review, just in case.
Otto? Milo? Why not Spike? Sorry, both those names make me think of dogs. Damn you family friendly films about runaway animals.
And it sounds like David is giving you an advanced lesson on how to deal with a moody teenager.

It's probably a good thing I never had a kid because I always liked the name Hieronymus, I just love crazy artists. Of course now it's too Harry Potter.
I've always been partial to Slagathor myself (movie quote.. as well as one of my cats' names for years).

I once had Renfield vetoed. That's a good name!

Another great name is Salvador(e) got a great short form (Sal) and has some mafia style muscle behind it. You'd get countless miliage out of it over the years with all the "Sal the nose, Sal the Ears, Big Sal, Little Sal., Medium Sal, Poopmaster Sal, Downtown Sal's 5 finger discount" quality nicknames are endless. (These nicknames are also good for Jimmy, but I assume that's a non-starter.. plus Sal is way cooler).
I say Baby #1...saves time and thought.
Uncle. It should be 'Uncle'
Felix the Cat - lame. Now, Fritz the Cat ....
you still think Otis is the shizz after thinking about Otis Campbell from the Andy Griffith Show? well, he did kinda take care of himself getting into his own cell and all, but still...
"Milo and Otis" was a live action kids' movie about a dog and cat who are best friends. I haven't seen it since I was little, but it was a cute movie. That's what I think of when I think of those names.

The actress Gillian Anderson was in the news a couple years back for accidentally naming her sons Felix and Oscar. Well, I don't think she accidentally chose either name individually; I think the story was that she had a complete brain fart and forgot about The Odd Couple.

My nephew's named Ben. Apparently he's a good baby, doesn't cry much, just likes to sit in his swing and drool on things.

Rated for use of the word "prolly."
damn, squirrel, I was kinda liking "Pokey" ...Is it out of the runnin'? I like my kid's name...Zeke! You can use it if you like! Damn, you might have just inspired me to write a post on how he got that name!
It's common knowledge that since the beginning of the public school system there has NEVER been one instance where a child with the given name of Angus had his lunch money stolen.

In fact, us Angus types can often be relied upon to return home from school with more money in our pockets than we had upon leaving that morning .

Yes, financially speaking, this name merits careful consideration.
Nice. And now I'm going to inflict a few of my name associations on you.

Milo. A literary name--Catch-22 and Phantom Tollbooth. Cool.
David. A Renaissance name. Need I say more?
Otis. What kid wouldn't want to be nicknamed "The Elevator"?
Eamon. I had a chilhood friend nicknamed Eamon, though his real name was Edmond. Very Irish.
gwendolyn: well, i wish i could be the bearer of other than bad news, but ... alas ... no felix.

femme: hah. what a coincidence. my morning was crap, as well.

wordsmith: see, if we don't decide right off the bat, we never will. we'll dither and paperwork'll never get filed and we'll be calling him pokey til he goes off to college. which would be ... odd.

stellaa: the next list we make will hopefully be written on FREE SAMPLES OF PAPER. though wasn't menelaus a bad king or something? wasn't he in trojan women or something? me seems to recall ...

hells bells: and now, "pig boat" has been added to the shortlist!

verbal: but ... perry rhymes with fairy. or ferry. or scary. or berry. or nary. or a few others, but mainly fairy.

umbrella: art the fart. yes. you know the hazards involved in this.

nora: it took me like ten minutes to figure out what the hell a FOAF was. though stick just might hafta make the list right after pig boat.

sarah: i'll remember. don't you see? i'll think of that crappy band all the time, and wow. what a horrible way to live out one's days. and i'd forgotten romper room. what a blast from the past.

trudge: ooh, max is good. though not without its downsides.

verbal: but ... my name is grey squirrel. that's me.

sheldon: skip's not bad. but ... i dunno ... skips don't grow up to be cool grownups. they're forever adolescents. hmm ... i'm gonna hafta ... think ... about it ... for a while ...

seth: all our family names suck. very common. we wanna have an awesome name!

robin: ooh, garland. that's not bad. then we could call him gar!

busy: that's hysterical.

smaq: ooh, i'd forgotten the bloom county connection. i wonder if we could get away with steve dallas.

ocular: if it's movie dogs, we could go turner or hooch. whichever one wasn't tom hanks.

asian: quilt? duvet? afghan?

traigus: sal is good. almost so good it makes up for sal the gal, sneak sally up the alley, etc.

buffy: baby's even shorter.

pill: i like uncle.

bbd: otis was the town drunk? if this particular apple doesn't fall far from the tree, it just might fit ...
Oh, you're right to nix Felix. A horrible, dreadful child I knew was a Felix, and he bit and harassed other children until they cried, and his mother was the kind of mother who thinks it's the fault of the child who was bitten, because that child put its wretched flesh in the way of the teeth of her precious! and deserved the bite. Which drew blood, as often as not.

No Felix. Bad Felix.
Make him a blues man. It will automatically happen if you name him "Blind Boy." As far as I know he doesn't even have to be legally blind.

As for Ezra: It wasn't until I was in my late twenties that I found out that Ezra was a man's name. I doubt I'm not the only one who has been thrown off by that soft, exotic name ending with an A.

There are plenty of names Better Than Ezra. If you want to name him after a band, you have to pick one that's undeniably awesome. Name him "Velvet Underground" or "The Pixies." I named my first daughter Flying Burrito Brothers Johnson. Her middle name is I Mean From The First Album When Gram Parsons Was Really On And Focused.

Sheldon- You say you can't hate a guy named Skip? I used to know a guy named Skip. Couldn't say I hated him, but I definately couldn't stand him. I had to tolerate him out of necessity for years due to the fact that in college he was in my department, shared most of my friends, my classes, my hang-outs. It was rare that I would speak to him without thinking "What kind of self-respecting post-pubescent man would allow himself to be called Skip?" Then after a few moments of him yammering on and laughing at his own jokes, I'd think, "Yeah, this guy. He would and he does." He was the type of guy who thought he could do a great English accent, and would demonstrate it horribly all the time. So, yeah, squirrel: no Skip.
someone's rule is: Assume your kid will one day be nominated to the US Supreme Court and name accordingly.

Skip clearly won't do.
not Waffle either.
nor Stubborn or Stupid
(which sound too much like Donner and Cupid)
Rabid is also a poor choice
I'd vote for Henry, or 'enry if you're having a cuppa and biscuits.

Some friends have a baby named Buck - he's utterly awesome.

Avery - I think that was the name of the farmhand in Charlotte's Web.

Marcus - very regal and dignified. Classy and stuff.
It's hard to get the name thing right. Our son is named Daniel. He teases us incessantly about naming him the most popular (and he says boring) name the year he was born (1986) . So, he named his child Kellan. Who has that name? It sounds like Ellen and rhymes with Jellan. [I'm kidding, it fits his child perfectly]

I'm just saying that your child probably won't like his or her name whatever it is, so don't sweat it so much.

denese

Anyway. It won't matter. They'll dislike anyone you pick.
First your post makes me shoot water out of my nose then I have to read this from Sheldon "Skippy is a horrible peanut butter, Skip is a fella you could shake hands with." and decided that choking on water was a distinct possibility. I'm all about using foreign names... maybe because I'm a foreigner (not like the band but like being from another country). I like the name Eztek personally...
Sheesh! Everybody went and "madmen"-ed themselves, no?

I like Cain.
My daughter would have been Colin had she been a boy. You can have it, I'm not having another kid. I also like Scott.

Naming your child is THE most amazing process of marital compromise, isn't it?
What, you're not considering Zeke?

I agree with you about Ezra. It would make me think of that lame band, too. Simon reminds me of that smarmy, condescending ass on TV.

How about Arlo or Brent?
It's tough to come up with a good name for a kid. You don't want to name them anything they'll get teased over, but you also don't want to give them some name that is completely unoriginal either. We have a son named Aidan...I know you said you have a friend who already took that one from you. Just so you know, it has become pretty popular and my Aidan is always Aidan C. at school. Same is true for my daughter Kayla. There is always at least one other one in her grade. Our middle kid is Rory. He is the only Rory at the entire school and I think there are 900 kids there. Everybody who meets him says, "That's a cool name, kid." And it is. Feel free to use it--you don't know us, and I bet you don't know any mean/weird/ex-boyfriend/bad band Rorys either. Good luck no matter what you choose!
I forgot to say the most important thing! We call our Rory "Rorasaurus"--just like you call your wife "wifeasaurus"--see...it's fate!
Just call him "Q" and get it over with. Sheesh.
oooh, we should start a pool, will the paper and or pen arrive before the baby?
Nobody names their baby Larry any more. Or Fred.
I think that you need to put the name to a formal vote here on Open Salon. There are plenty of opinions here.

My own thougths are that you don't want to have a name that's super common, yet you want a name that most people can pronounce and spell. A great website that shows the trends of names is here: http://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager
Eamon is the name of the singer who wrote the song "F* You, I Don't Want You Back," and I'm pretty sure the name includes that expletive star.

So, keep writing funny blogs, but scratch Eamon off the list too.
Damn, I love the names Aiden, Jacob, and Ezra. How about Micah (Mike-ah), Misha, Maurice, Darius, or my favorite (in other words I'm saving this one for a human child) Noah? I also really like the name Michael. It's boring, but a good 'guy' boy name.
or....
Aaron
Aidrian
Brandon
Colin
Glenn
Gavin
Devlin
Conner
Inis
Kieran
Liam
Neill
Niall
Quinn
Rhys
Sean
Wynn
ok, really, I'm stopping now...
My ex seriously preferred Crazy Horse for a (hypothetical) boy's name. Divorce is sometimes the only solution.
I've know boy kids named Coltraine, Harley, Holden and Gunnar.
Simon would go perfect with your last name..."Says'?
--rated--
Atticus. Atticus Squirrel Finch . What *couldn't* he do with a name like that!
Take a tip from me: Make up a list of preposterous names and save it somewhere. When your kid turns nine or ten, show the him the list. He'll be grateful for whatever name you decided on.

I have my kid Ben convinced he was just a breath away from being named Kangaroo.
Don't be so shy... my friends just welcomed Maxton Augustus into their family!
My father wanted to call me either Sam or Ben, but my mother pointed out that labradors have names like that.
How about Humperdink?
You know Otto was a throwaway name, right? She has a whole list of throwaway names she'll include, knowing they won't make the cut. It's like when lawyers do voire dire of a potential jury pool and then exercise their peremptory challenges. You make sure that some of the ones you hate are in there so that it looks like you're compromising. I've been there before.
Not knowing your last name I wouldn't presume to suggest possibles, but you could always get creative and make up your own like Zappa did.
I should add that my folks had a similar brain fart when they named my younger brother Alan Steven. I think you can figure it out. :-D
Or Engelbert (to add to Cymraeg's above). Or Harrison. Or Clem. Or Maurice, Morris, Paul--why has no one mentioned Paul? Good strong name, easy to say, easy to spell, not terribly trendy or offbeat. Strong Bible name that everyone knows. And the only nickname I can think of is Pauly, which sounds a little Mafia-like, right? Couldn't hurt, especially if he's being beaten up at school. If you go with Engelbert, he'd be Bertie (sounds veddy British). Harrison --> Harry, which would be fine if he is. Oh, what do I know? I have one son, named Tom. How original is that?? And what about Junior? Then you could call him "2".
How about Asher?
Go here: http://www.babynamewizard.com/voyager

It will drive you crazy, but it's kind of fun.
I've got the perfect boy name, but I'm holding it hostage because my kid's got it and it's not overused after seventeen years. You can't even find it on a keyring, but if I hand it out, well... keyrings, mugs, t-shirts, all manner of chachka. And it's not even a weird name. So, if you're interested... well... I might tell you if I feel particularly nice at the moment.

In lieu of that name, I suggest playing "Try a Little Tenderness" for your spouse. BAM! The kid will be Otis!
What about me? Aren't I good enough for your links?
how about one of those Welsh names with no vowels? that way, no one could spell it OR say it.

no cutsie spellings. Singothic is NEVER Syngothyc.
have you ever seen the Saturday Night Live sketch with Nicholas Cage where he & his wife are going over names that won't work with their baby? Like, We can't call him Peter because...or Dick...or -- and they go on & on & he finds stuff wrong with ALL of these names & while they're talking there's a knock at the door & Cage calls out, "Who is it?" & a guy says:

"Pizza for Ass-wipe Johnson!"

and Cage angrily says, "Aswipe, Aswipe!" (pronounced as-WEEP-a but I don't know how to put an accent mark on there)

It's my favorite ever SNL sketch, and this reminds me of it. (By the way, my grandsons are Charlie & Griffen.)
damn. i have to say what many of these names mean to me:

simon - my first love's name. its an altogether great name.

felix unger happens to be my ALL TIME number one tv character, ever.

my son was named ben for three days or so, till his father absolutely nixed it. we even have cards with that name on it.



the story i like to tell where i say i french kissed jimmy fallon? its a lie - i shook hands with jimmy fallon (arms, bc my hands were full, so he shook my arm) took place when i was hanging out with jimmy fallon's dad at ETHAN HAWKE's booksigning. yep.



i won a major halloween contest one year when i went as otto, the hosts dog, which was what? part dachshund. spotted like a dalmation and slightly larger, but dachshund was his dominant features.

so.

i say you work on her with the simon. its a nice nice name.
i had to come back to say i have now watched some felix unger on youtube. he is a pure delight to watch. watch felix unger, my strife in court. plus, i think felix means lucky. and PLUS tony randall became a dad at like age 68. so. ya know, thats a lot of plusses.
"Ezra. There was that crappy band Better Than Ezra. Why would I name my kid a name that’s gonna make me remember a crappy band? She fought like hell, she really did. She thinks Ezra’s a cool name, but there’s a few things about which I will say over my dead body. One of those things is giving my kid a name that’ll make me think of a band that was crappy."

I contemplated Ezra for my son who eventually became Charlie. I don't know what I was thinking but it had something to do with Ezra Pound...not the band. I'm glad I got off that kick,but it is an interesting name and would have been a wierd equivalent to what his older twin brothers got - Cedar & Kaya. How people handle their names is important. Kids that handle interesting names turn out to be really interesting people. I'm just saying.
Space cowboy? Gangster of Love?

Sue?
I had only 2 boys names picked out when we were trying to get preg.

Archer (DO NOT call him Archie for short)
Dale

You may have them...I'm now 39 and not trying anymore.