Tomorrow, according to news organizations and such, Indiana will pass its Right-to-Work bill.
Our governor, 'My Man Mitch', says this will pave the way for job creations.
I might feel more apt to believe that if there weren't so much "Black Ops" donations.
When Corporations donate to causes, most the time, if at all, it's not to help the workers, but themselves.
And that's exactly what is happening here in Indiana and all over the country.
Corporations have been buying elections since the dawn of time but that doesn't make it right and for some reason, the politicians, we the people, put into office, with their ideas of 'helping us' have decided to go in a totally opposite way.
'My Man Mitch' as he campaigned himself back when, seemingly has become the My Bitch Mitch and a Republican favorite.
It must be nice to be the Corporations Bitch and I wonder how much that pays these days.
Quite a bit, from the media campaign pulled on this Right-To-Work throughout the state, all touting off how it will help the workers, create jobs, get us laid, or something.
I wish the Truth-in-Advertising was a legal, punishable by death doctrine because I think the ads then would be more like, "We're doing this because Corporations are tired of the unions running their bottom line, they want to be able to fire higher paid fucksticks and put in way lower paid fucksticks then give their CEOs big fucking bonuses that would make the Pope cry with joy!"
Course, The Unions aren't happy at all, and neither should the workers. I'm not a Rabid Union Supporter but when I see 'Non-Disclosed donations' flooding the campaign to push something through, I get really suspicious of the 'real point' of a law.
But Mitch Daniels and the Republicans surely wouldn't be doing anything that wasn't for the people, right?
Right?
Yeah, I thought so too.
I'm for a free market society, as long as it's a fair market, and Corporations, in my opinion have never played fair.
If We the People did half the stuff Corporations are allowed to do, we would be swinging from the highest oak tree faster than you could say, Corporations are People.
And if they are people, they should be treated the same way.
Tomorrow, I wish I could join the AFL-CIO and others in a march and rally in Indianapolis, but instead I post this, a fuck you to the government pricks who think they are untouchable, who think that the people do not matter, that we can be lied to and that we will just stand there and take it.
This country began with a revolution and in my belief, it will end with one. The People, seen by some as being the sheep that they might well be, can take only so much before they buck and throw the rider, these Corporations and their puppets, to the ground and trample them.
Is that the answer to the overall question?
No, it is not. Because The People, once the foundation is burning, have no better ideas than the Corrupt Souls in the State Houses do.
But, in the end, it will be what it will be.
Prayers and hope for answers I do not have but am growing tired of being feed horseshit and lies...
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Genius I tells ya.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-25-2012/state-of-the-union-2012---hopin--mic-night---responses-from-mitch-daniels---mitt-romney
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-january-25-2012/state-of-the-union-2012---hopin--mic-night---the-best-f--king-analysis-ever
go in 2 minutes, 43 seconds on the clip...
My Man Mitch is the shit too! ~:D
He makes me wanna run for office, on the platform that people r dum!! ~:D
http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/31/10274647-indiana-may-drug-test-lawmakers
The second one is funny, and sad. This is what legislators in Indiana do in the time they're supposed to be passing smoking ordinances and fixing the prostitution law before the Super Bowl.
http://indianapublicmedia.org/news/lawmakers-push-reform-trafficking-laws-presuper-bowl-23725/
right.. right..I got some swamp land in Russia for ya
HUGGGGGGGGGGG
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Now, they're hiding behind the curtains, not speaking up, collecting their checks and being useless.
My question is: how is this creating jobs, preventing foreclosures and restoring our infrastructure?
Not you Tink.
:-) /r
That's the ticket.
:-)
Linda, I'd like to buy said swamp land!! PLEASE? :D
islandtime, I know, right? Who wants to camp in the park, scary!! Bears and stuff!! ~:D Mitch has a pool!! Oh my yes!! ~:D
Matt, too late, he's almost through now, term limits and such, but the sad part is, we'll probably elect another jackass into the governor's chair!! ~EEK~
zuma, beats me!! But tonight, as I listened to one of the founders of the Tea Party, I discovered both sides of the People equation agree: DON'T TRUST NO POLITICIAN, THEY'LL ALL TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN SCREAMING INTO THE NIGHT, AND LEAVE US HOLDING A BIG BAG OF SHIT!! Paraphrased from what the lady said on the MSNBC Special Coverage of the Florida Election but she did say, DON'T TRUST A POLITICIAN ON EITHER SIDE, THEY'LL TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN...I added the bag of shit!! ~:D
We's fucked!! Way beyond fucked!!
nana, yay!!! My adopted state is the best!!! Wooo!! My butt is already sore and it ain't even tomorrow!! FOUR MORE YEARS!! FUCK TERM LIMITS, MY BITCH MITCH CAN RUN US THE REST OF THE WAY INTO THE ICEBERG!! Woooo!! ~:D
toritto, Indiana is awesome. Almost as hawt as Ohio but soooo more bitching than Illinois!! ~:D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_gubernatorial_election,_2012
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You sit here and complain about what corporations do. They only do what is in the best interest of your 401k. They only do what is allowed by law. If you don't like the law, run for office.
Now I'll make an agreement with you. As soon as you support that unions can not make political donations or support someone I'll agree to support the same thing for corporations. Deal?
Wonder what we are evolving into as a country?
You do love a sucker bet, don't you?
That's like saying, "As soon as you agree that working men don't need to eat, I'll support fat cats only eating 3 times a day."
Corporations ALREADY OWN 99% (or more) of the politicians. Your withdrawal of support for them doing so won't change a thing.
On the other hand, if working men want to earn enough to support their families they NEED to unionize and use their combined mutual contributions, via union dues, to be used to support that tiny fraction of pols who might work to ensure that the laws make that possible.
What is it about fairness that ties your guts in a knot? Are you THAT greedy? Can you not see that all members contribute to the wealth that the society has? What is your sick need to have access to more than your fair share? AND to deprive others of theirs?!! Is only YOUR contribution of value?
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sky, feels good!! ~:D
CatNLion, first off, ain't going to join a union either, at least in my field of study(underwater basket weaving) but...they are there for other fields as another barrier when they work.
Corporation DO NOT do what is right for the employee. Let me rephrase, MOST do not. Numerous lay offs of people making LESS than mininum wage(tips baby, that relies on customers giving them, not the employer!!) and myself, and then during that time the time of MAJOR layoffs, major bonuses for the high ups on the ladders!! That's right for someone, not sure it's the employee.
I trust Corporations as far as I can throw them, imagine you do as well, same with the government.
Just because something is legal, does not make it right and there are plenty of people who agree with me, who are better at the game then I will ever be and who are running for office.
Next, I could care less if the Nazi Party donated to the candidate, that's not the point let the public know that such donations are taking place, lift back the veil and let us see who is donating, any party, I don't care either way.
Don't pretend it's going to help the workers, it isn't, we have eyes and ears so we can see and hear the facts.
If I did run for office, I would let the people know that the We hatez Dawgs Organization gave me money. It shows my agenda which I would want people to know.
Full disclosure, of all contributions. That's what I'm talking about.
And I know both sides get contributions and accept them without knowing what the agenda is for the organization.
Tonight, I heard a Tea Party Founder speaking on MSNBC. She said something I agree with, never trust ANY politician as they will take the money and run as quickly as they can before you can say a a word. I trust them as far as I can throw them.
Julie, a split nation on the basics. ~:D Chocolate cake VS. Lemon Pie. If one side said, chocolate cake, the other would counter lemon pie just out of spit!!! ~:D
sky, ~nod~, another barrier of protection. I have friends who still have jobs because of the union. Corporate wanted to take their jobs away, union stepped in(their department is unionized) and they said NO!
Corporations aren't looking out for the worker. I mean, if they were, there wouldn't be a need for unions or government regulations in such things as mininum wages, work safety, enivormental regulations, etc. cause the companies would be like, "Does this help my work force? If so, then good for me!"
:D
Drew, now you're just talking silly!! ~:D
Marty's Husband, but we're helping the Corporation to help us!! ~:D
When guys like you and I start thinking about revolution it might be time for the government to listen. I love comfort, I want nothing more than to live a quiet and decent life, yet here I am thinking of the best way to prepare for it. A revolution may not end it but, it may give it back to us.
Unfortunately and reluctantly, I agree with you on this. "Right to work" typically is an oxymoron, double entendre and euphemism for "Right to Fire" and "Right to be Paranoid About Your Ability to Keep Your Job and Support Your Family".
Bottom line, is the bastards don't give a rat's behind.
Because they were being vindictive and retaliating against union workers.
Let's be clear, Mr. Fever. The existence of a union does not destroy jobs. Destroying jobs takes corporate greed, weak regulation and cronyism in government.
I know you won't be happy until American workers have the same standard of living as Chinese workers. How does anything that's happening now stop that trend?
The questions below are rhetorical but it should be an entertaining display of your illogical belief system (if you choose to answer them).
Do you really think Boeing would build a $750 million factory in order to be vindictive?
If unions don’t destroy jobs why would Mitch Daniels want to establish Indiana as a right to work state?
Why would corporations choose to grow in Right to Work states and shrink in Union States?
If employers make money of the work of their employees why would destroying jobs be evidence of their greed?
Do you think tough regulations create jobs?
Look, I have no interest in American workers living by the same standard as Chinese workers. I do have an interest in getting Americans back to work and the only way to do that is for employers to be incentivized to grow. What’s “happening now” is oppressive regulation, progressive tax policy and unbridled spending that removes these incentives. Stated differently, if you want jobs you shouldn’t make life more difficult for job creators.
Tink, rumor has it that you may be running!!! Do it Tink!! You are the cat's meow!!
(See for example:Mining industry)
There has to be a balance between job creation and workers' rights/government regulation, a fair system for both sides. Unions have and still have a place in a lot of industries, equalizers to Corporations vs. The Rest of us, cause contrary to some peoples' beliefs, the Company isn't looking out for the Worker, if giving a chance, they'd process the Worker, after their usefullness ran out, in a food product to sell to the rest of us!
And the sad thing is, we, the People, would stand in line to buy that food product for a healthy markup at the Company Store!!!!
And why didn't My Man Mitch bring this up earlier on in his term as governor, if it's sooooo wonderful for the people?
That's where I worry, when things are pushed through, under secret donorship, makes it look fishy.
It might be the best thing for the process, but, it smells rotten.
That's my stance, both sides, if it smells like dead and rotten whale's ass, it probably isn't really that wonderful to taste, unless you like rotten whale's ass!!!
:D
Money is an illusion, people's lives are not. At some point you have to choose on which side you stand.
"This country began with a revolution and in my belief, it will end with one."
Uh... DUH! It will happen, which will bring the question... will our own kids in the military fire on US? Maybe some of those kids will... you know the ones I speak of, but mostly I say NO THEY WILL NOT at which time... some berry bad things will happen to these pukes.
And well, I's a People, when I'm not a cat, and I know other peoples with the same goal, so if Corporations are People, and Politicks are the same, well, wouldn't most of them haz the same goal and fuck the others?
Maybe I'm just dumb!! ~nodding~
trig, my new goal as a blogger is to NEVER EVER get an EP as long as I blog here. I mean, look at the most read feed right now!!
Do you see any of my three EPed articles in there? NO!!! ~:D
And damnit, when the Revolution happens, you better tell Eli he can't fire on us, cause well, you gave him life and I uh, gave him, a strawberry flavored lollipop!!!!
:D
It will happen...and soon....too many pissed off US. ~nodding~
“Corporations vs. The Rest of us”
That characterization is a microcosm of what’s wrong with liberal philosophy. Corporations are on the same side as the rest of us. They employ us, they meet our demand for goods and services, they pay taxes and they prevent us from being dependent on Government handouts. They do all these things in their selfish desire to increase shareholder wealth not because they care deeply about workers.
We are all on the same side as the corporations. In other words, what’s good for business is generally good for society. Right to Work is good for business. The alternative to Right to Work is having corporations go out of business, stop growing or locate to more business friendly locations whether that is other states or other countries. I don’t blame you for wanting to change the subject and talk about toxic waste, because as it relates to Right to Work, liberal philosophy contaminated garbage.
Liberal philosophy grew out of capitalism and vice-versa. Our Founders, steeped in liberal philosophy, wrote a liberal Declaration and Constitution. We fought a Revolutionary War against the power of corporations. Those same Founders presided over an America system that strictly regulated corporations because they, unlike contemporary dogma-soaked ass-waddles, recognized the ability corporations have to wield power and destroy liberty.
They regulated what single function a corp would perform, held officers criminally liable, often told them what amount of profit would be allowed, forbid them from owning stock in other corps and forbid them from participating in politics. They limited charters to a set number of years and, if not renewed, forced corps to disband and distribute equity to shareholders. They also forced corps to dissolve if they were found to be acting against the public interest.
And during that time, American workers were among the highest paid in the world. That was also true of the post WW2 New Deal economy, with its high taxes, industrial policies and regulations and large unionized workforce.
Fever, you don't know what liberal philosophy is and should quit babbling about it. The same silence should apply to your absolutely bizarre regurgitation of laughable economic dogma with its fantasy of a customer-less economy. You're so screwed-up you actually refute capitalist common sense.
The fun part is you always preface these weak-minded Tinker Toy meanderings with the now famous Fever Statement of Superior Knowledge. That is hilarious. You're rapidly becoming a punchline.
You owe your liberty to liberals, Fevie. You owe homage to liberalism if you admire capitalism. Don't bad-mouth your American Heritage.
Politics, economics and history can be enjoyable, but there are other hobbies that don't require much thinking. You might try above-water basket weaving.
I mention the Toxic waste because a lot of Republicans like to bring up, during these same discussions we're having, the point is we should just let businesses/corporations do what they want, they'll do everything for the good of the people which, you'll have to agree, is pure bullshit, no matters who says it.
I just do not trust the guvermint when they shove things through without any debate or time for the voters ala the people to see through the veil.
That's coming from me, not some liberal, though I've been to pretty liberal with my booze and cheese consumption!!!
:D
I hate and love labels, no matter the discussion, we all resorts to "Conservatives have a plan, they want to help, the liberals don't!!" and vice versa.
Answer my question, if you can, why push through something so fast and behind closed doors if it's so wonderful, and will benefit the people as greatly as you say?
I can't figure out an answer, but possibly cause I'm a Socialist Asshole(not a liberal!!!!)....:D
Paul, ~nodding~ I like my basketweaving under water!! :D
And Amen to the rest(except the Tinker Toys, I lovez them!! :D)
If you review the tapes of history, Indiana tried this "Right-to-Work" in the 1950s and lasted till the 1960s, which, by the way, it didn't work out too well back then and I really doubt it'll work out much better now.
But we'll see.
I have a feeling the Super Bowl this year might be interesting!! :)
“Answer my question, if you can, why push through something so fast and behind closed doors if it's so wonderful, and will benefit the people as greatly as you say?”
The electorate elects politicians and those politicians make laws. Liberals clearly disagree with Right to Work and have tried virtually everything to stop it from happening. By everything, I mean claiming it was done behind closed doors (which it wasn’t), insisting on a ballot question (laws do not require this litmus test) to fleeing the state so that Republicans couldn’t conduct a vote (a measure Republicans have never done).
Now a question for you, “a lot of Republicans like to bring up, during these same discussions we're having, the point is we should just let businesses/corporations do what they want, they'll do everything for the good of the people which”, name one Republican that said this?
Paul:
To say the least, that was a creative analysis of historical events. I never knew the Revolutionary War was between Americans and a corporation. Even if I did agree with your theories on history or with the general principal that our forefathers were right about everything, are you suggesting we reintroduce the slave trade? Oh and by the way, the joke is “underwater basket weaving”, you should stick to your day job.
"“[The government] thinks they are not doing their job if they’re not regulating,” said Stossel. “They’re all well intended, but the result is that we wonder why there’s less job creation. You’re scared to go into business because so many nasty things can happen.”
The federal government churned out 70,000 pages of new rules last year regulating small business, making it nearly impossible for entrepreneurs to succeed. The laws and regulations are passed to keep everyone safe, but Stossel says we need to junk most of the rules and let businesses do what they want. The well intended actions by the government are stifling growth and hampering innovation.
Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/varney-co/transcript/too-much-regulation#ixzz1lF8grNfJ
Now let me say, I agree with the for every 1 law, throw out 3 old laws!!!! (Some of the laws on the books can be quite entertaining to read!)
But again, I say, if it's such a wonderful thing, this Right-To-Work, is such a wonderful thing, the majority of the voters would agree and it would pass instantly no matter what them goddamn Liberals did to derail it!
Ah well, like yelling into the wind, neither of us are going to see that the other side have the same fear of politicians and commentators!!!!!!
~shrugs~
~wanders off~
It was an accurate analysis of historic events, but you have no way of knowing that, which is why you offer a generic reply. I wouldn't expect anyone who doesn't know what Liberal Philosophy is to have much grasp of American history or liberty theory, so I don't blame you for trying to get by on whining like a toddler.
Your "powerful" rebuttal is to suggest a return to that history implies a return to the slave trade. Did you struggle to come up with that, or was there a 10 year old child coaching you? Intelligent people don't use post hoc puffoonery when arguing, but you have no way of knowing that...obviously.
I didn't want to suggest underwater basket weaving, as Tink is involved in that. You would easily outperform his best work because your mind is used to operating in an anaerobic environment.
Next time, just accept your spanking without attempting a reply. You truly are one of the most stupid script-reading morons on the web, which is why it's fun to occasionally crush your smart guy wannabe aspirations. You should stay in your own argumentative league, if the parents don't get suspicious about why you want to hang out with children.