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Tom Cordle
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"I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and incur my own abhorrence." Frederick Douglass _________________________________ "You can't pull yourself up by your bootstraps if you don't have any boots, and you can't put yourself in another's shoes -- you can't even try on their socks." Soulofhawk _________________________________ "I prefer silent vice to ostentatious virtue." Albert Einstein _________________________________ Only in silence can your hear the voice of God." Soulofhawk ____________________________________ "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends." Martin Luther King, Jr" ____________________________________ "Racists can hide in the closet, but the smell usually gives them away." Soulofhawk _________________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain ____________________________ "When we are young, Death comes as an unwelcome stranger; but as we get nearer the end of our own too-often rocky road, he comes more and more to resemble a long, lost acquaintance." Soulofhawk ____________________________________ “When monetary gain is involved, mans capacity for self-delusion is infinite.” Lord Byron _________________________________ "Where greed is good, need is great." Soulofhawk _________________________________ “And let it be noted that there is no more delicate matter to take in hand, nor more doubtful in its success, than to set up as a leader in the introduction of change. For he who innovates will have as his enemies all who are well off under the existing order of things, and only lukewarm supporters in those who might be better off under the new. This lukewarm temper arises partly from the incredulity of mankind, who will never admit the merit of anything new, until they have seen it proven by the event.” Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince, Chapter VI _________________________________ "if a man falls from a pedestal, who is really to blame -- the man or those who put him up there?" Soulofhawk ____________________________________ "The history of any country, presented as the history of a family, conceals fierce conflicts of interest (sometimes exploding, most often repressed) between conquerors and conquered, masters and slaves, capitalists and workers, dominators and dominated in race and sex. And in such a world of conflict, a world of victims and executioners, it is the job of thinking people, as Albert Camus suggested, not to be on the side of the executioners." Howard Zinn _______________________________ "The worst thing to be around a bigot is right." Soulofhawk

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NOVEMBER 5, 2012 4:36PM

This Land is Our Land

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This is the land of the lovers
The lovers of red, white and blue
But the truth hides between the covers
And this isn't the land I once knew

This is the land of the liars
Whose ends justify any means
And the ends to which they aspire
Leave no room for any betweens

This is the land of the loutish
Who will do and will say anything
No matter how absurdly clownish
In a reckless attempt to be king

This is the land of the lazy
Who think because of their birth
They're entitled to profit like crazy
But they way overvalue their worth

This is the land of the lenders
Who profit and plunder in haste
When the final verdict is rendered
We lose to what they’ve laid waste

This is the land of low-lifes
Who slander and suppress and slant
Their aim is to leave us with no life
While we try to control what we can’t

This is the land of the luddites
Who foolishly think they can stem
The tide and reverse all of the rights
Finally extended to Them

This is the land of the liberals
Who lacking in all common sense
Squander their birthright for lentils
Embracing a foolish pretense

This is the land of the losers
Where the willfully blind soon forget
These beggars are pitiful choosers
So the future is filled with regret

This is the land of the lonely
Where things are not turning out right
But things could be better – if only
A few more would stand-up and fight

©2012 Tom Cordle

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Do not go quietly into that good fight. I know. You're not!
Well yes Woody.

But as I read this, your cadences reminded me of the great Mohican musician Bill Miller and a piece of his I greatly admire,
" Listen to Me."
Daniel
As my blog title proclaims, I will not go quietly.
alsoknownas
I know Bill Miller a bit. First saw him at the Bluebird Cafe in Nashville in '86. I told him them if there was any justice in this world, he would make it, and I'm glad to see he did. Bill appears annually at The Gathering in Coker Creek right up the road from me. You should make it for that event one day. I'll put you up and buy you a brew or two.
Very dark, but not entirely without hope. Now if we can only get to work on that dream part. R&R ;-)
And Arlo Guthrie Too!
`
If I Listen to ` Guthrie?
I FEEL NICE` LOCOS.
Music Ramble` Peace.
`
But It's a bit`
de' mild-calms`
ay, so soothing`
O, hallucinogen`
but non-druggy`
Ay fake-induced.

Where's ` Jake?
Lost in Woods?
We Care too.
Woody would love this, Tom. I do. You sing your favorite notes repeatedly and clearly, that's for sure. :-)

I was thinking of the song "Bourgeois Blues" written by Leadbelly and Guthrie in 1938 about Washington DC - "the white folks don't want no black folk living in there". Shameful that this is still true.
jmac
Hope springs eternal in the human beast, and I remain a pragmatic romantic
From the redwood forest to the New York island - you are so right!
Well, you've worked hard, Tom. And I think, hope, you will not be denied the pleasure of watching the louts on Fox squirm on Tuesday night.
Art James, BTR (born to rap)
Pragmatic romantic. That's very good.

A friend of mine back in high school once told me he was a cynical optimist. I think they're related.

So have you recorded this in song form anywhere? Posted it on YouTube so we can hear it?

Art,
Arlo? Arlo's not that serious a songwriter, probably to his eternal regret. He is, on the other hand, that serious a performer, very engaging, does really well with the voice he has, and can play his ass off on at least two instruments. I guess devoting his life to maintaining the legacy of a father he had to spend most of his life without is a little easier when one of his father's friends and colleagues is still around, famous, beloved, and performing.
Emily
Not familiar with that tune -- I'll check it out -- if it hasn't been censored by corporate persons
nilesite
When Woody sang it, that song had a real bite -- I'm just standing in the shadow of that giant redwood
You make those shadows a very good place to be!

I'll be driving by in about 4 hours, will pick you up on the way to Florida---I think we need to go there to make sure that the REALLY bad guys don't steal the whole frigging thing!

Worse case? We can find toritto and go drink!
Tom! I love that song. Here it is by Taj Mahal:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=taj+mahal+bourgeois+blues+&oq=bourgeois+blu&gs_l=youtube.1.6.0l6j0i5l2.5063.18846.0.32268.33.20.9.3.3.0.135.1778.15j5.20.0...0.0...1ac.1.5X3_GXmLbRM
If you haven't listened to the Folkways album A Vision Shared, you would love it. A tribute to Woody, by terrific contemporary artists.
woody would be proud, tom r,
"But things could be better – if only
A few more would stand-up and fight"

really liked this ending especially. really liked all of it except where you go after the messaging "liberals". dissent is patriotic. obama has committed so many impeachable offenses there is a veritable assembly line of them still coming. but how denied or minimized said assembly line, with maybe the argument romney's assembly line would go faster? this sham corporate-captured election where only the corporate line was communicated would make a banana republic blush.

best, libby
Great lyrics Tom ~ I could that nasally-voiced old man singing along.

Good luck tomorrow, our American friends.
as poetry, so-so. as political commentary, not bad!
"birthright for lentils"--high comedy masking as low. Reminds me of too many Sunday night pot lucks.
I think I know what you mean, oh Tom
I've met people - not right.
Amongst them are those who continue
Are not afraid of the fight

They are the ”America the beautiful”.
Someone just like you
A man with courage dipped in despair
To whom people listen from “over-there”

Mal - Australia
BTW Tom I'd never make a poet if my left right and "middle leg" depended on it

Mal
Thinking of the lonely ...
of those who still dream ...
of those who still hope ...
Lea
A Obama victory is just what I need to cure the crud I've got. If god forbid it goes the other way, I'm back on the scotch and on my way to Canada.
Kosher
Not recorder -- just wrote it this afternoon -- actually it started out as a love song -- but I guess another kind of love -- agape -- is more on my mind at the moment -- can't imagine why ;-).
ChiGuy
If you're serious about going to Florida, email me and I'll send my phone number if you don't have it already. You have to pass within a few miles of my house to get there -- and I can be ready in a couple hours.
If by some horrific twist of fate and circumstance, it all goes horribly wrong even after all the absentee votes are counted... the Tom Cordle who wrote this won't succumb to scotch. He knows that absolute worst case... there will be another opportunity for an exorcism four years from now. Liars are all caught eventually.
Emily
Thanks for the link

Jonathan
I only wish I had a tenth of Woody's guts; I'd be on the front lines fighting fascists with my guitar
Libby
Sorry you cannot see the light, but when you are older you may come to realize the wisdom of some old aphorisms such as "half a loaf is better than none". And half a loaf is a helluva lot better than a hob-nailed kick in the crotch from a fascist sociopath.
Kim
Thanks on both counts. We're counting on the absentee votes from Australian ex-pats to carry the day for Obama.
Al
Damning with faint praise again, are we? When's the last time you heard anyone rhyme "liberal"? But seriously, folks, this is what I call my dogged doggerel.

just phyllis
T
Con
"Squander their birthright for lentils" Here in the backwoods, we call that a literary allusion, as in the Bible, as in the story of Jacob and Esau. Not to irritate Libby and Mark and a few dozen others here any more than I already have; but in my view, squandering your birthright with a third-party vote is literally giving it away rather than making a difficult (for some) choice between the only two possible outcomes.

Like Esau's bowl of lentils, that may satisfy a temporary hunger, but it is seriously lacking in sustenance for many of the causes liberals hold most dear, such as maintaining the social safety net, supporting education, and sustaining minority and women's rights. That is especially the case considering the only other possible outcome of this election.
Eventually, we may come around.
I'm hopeful, not expectant.
Peace, bro'.
R
Has anyone actually seen an electoral vote?

Anybody here?
Well said Tom but I've been thinking that even an Obama victory won't be a reason for great cheer. It's like the $800 B stimulus bill - staves off disaster but still leaves plenty of misery. Obama will still be faced with the same obstructionist fanaticism and and I'll be reminding myself that it would have been a lot worse under Romney. Is that like "I've been down so long it looks like up to me"?
Mal
Dang, that's the first time anyone's waxed poetic about me

Seer
Good for you; we're all on the front lines now
anna1liese
I'm all for dreamers and dreams, but I'm realist enough to know how much work goes into making those dreams come true. That usually takes gritty, thankless work behind the scenes over the long haul. And that is something third-party voters with their pyrrhic "victories" don't seem to understand or be much interested in.
Harp
I will not succumb to scotch, but I will consume a snort or two, either in victory or as a consolation. Yes, I will go on fighting the good fight, but I confess my respect for the electorate dimmed considerably after 2004. Should Romney win in spite of his pathological lying, I will be sorely tempted to leave this country because it will already have left me.
Kanuk
Thanks

Poor Woman
I'm hopeful and expectant because at some point things have to change and even wise rich people -- by that I mean Warren Buffet and Bill Gates and not the Koch Bros and Sheldon Adelson -- now know we were on the wrong track for far too long. The pendulum must swing the other way before it crashes thru the side of the doomsday clock
J P Hart
One of the many myths Americans delude themselves with is that is a democracy. It is not now and never has been, though it is more of a democracy now than it ever has been. Another myth is the Founders intended that to be the case. Indeed, quite the opposite is true; the Founders instituted voter suppression from the start. Ol' Tom Jefferson talked a good game, but like most of the others, he was quite happy to see the vote limited only to white, male property owners -- like him.

The Electoral College is one glaring example of voter suppression, tho disguised as something else. But whatever value it may have had -- and I stress may, it long ago outlived that usefulness. It should be swiftly consigned to the ash-heap of history.
J P Hart
One of the many myths Americans delude themselves with is that this is a democracy. It is not now and never has been, though it is more of a democracy now than it ever has been. Another myth is the Founders intended that to be the case. As Franklin said, we have a republic -- if we can keep it.

Truth be told, he and the other Founders instituted voter suppression from the start -- as well as the odious three/fifths rule that legitimized slavery in the Constitution. Ol' Tom Jefferson talked a good game, but like most of the others, he was quite happy to see the vote limited only to white, male property owners -- like him.

The Electoral College is one glaring example of the Founders distrust of even that highly-limited electorate. But whatever value the EC may have had -- and I stress may, it long ago outlived its usefulness. It should be swiftly consigned to the ash-heap of history.
Abrawang
Richard Farina references are always welcome.

Actually, I'm a bit more optimistic than you -- provided Obama wins. This is truly a watershed moment it America; I know that is said all the time, but this time it's quite true. That's one reason Republicans in general -- and Teapartian wingnuts in particular -- are so desperate to do ANYTHING to win this time out. They know full well time and demographics are not on their side.

In my view, Obama accomplished quite a lot in his first term -- especially during the first two years when he had a bit of leverage. But even if his next term is merely a holding pattern -- it is infinitely preferable to backsliding for another 4-8 years, during which a Republican President and Congress would cut taxes, gut the social safety net, start another war, further plunder the treasury, incur more massive debt, and stack the Court for generations to come -- thereby making future elections merely a farcical exercise in futility.
Let's hope for the better,Tom.
Oh,I am with you on agape.That is exactly what is needed.
Rated
Tom,

"This is the land of the lonely
Where things are not turning out right
But things could be better – if only
A few more would stand-up and fight"
?

"Stand up and fight"? What exactly do you mean?

:-)
Heidi
Agape, indeed. How sad it is the those who most loudly proclaim to be followers of the Prophet of Peace have so little acquaintance with the practice of love for the Other. As Jesus said:

"If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them."
Rick
I think you know what I mean by stand up and fight. I mean stand up and fight wisely, fight to eventually win the war by winning the battle at hand. To turn from that battle and make an empty, mock-heroic gesture isn't courageous, it's dangerous. That isn't heroism, it's pyrrhicism.
so few people i meet, tom, want to fight.
they want a government worthy of Respect.
a government that helps them once in awhile.
Cuz a government is an abstract thing.
IT IS local, or regional, or national, or international.

yet still it has to do with real people making decisions...
~
i got no fight with these goddamn fools.
the ultra conservative.
go and find a place to do your Thing, as we hippies used to say.
As long as u dont bother us!


lemme get back to my damn emerson............

"This is the land of the luddites
Who foolishly think they can stem
The tide and reverse all of the rights
Finally extended to Them
But is supporting the status-quo "fighting"? In your verse you suggest that " if only A few more would stand-up and fight" things would be better and that those who recognize this are "the lonely". It would seem your verse suggests a strong and sincere agreement with me that supporting the status-quo will not make things better. That is why I ask. If Obama wins, which I fully suspect he will, it will only benefit us if the Dems in Congress become willing to actually make it count. That would require a substantial change in the Party's behavior. They would have to become what once made them relevant and hat's something that hasn't happened in a long time.
I am impressed. I do not expect that to make your day, but I'm just sayin' . . . .
James
I once was among the raging liberals, but I’ve given up romanticism for pragmatism. I’m no longer with those willing to fall on their sword for the cause, and I have matured at least enough to recognize that for what it is -- an empty, egotistical gesture.

As you suggest, too many liberals would rather spout Emerson than do the tedious, grinding, dirty work of bringing about political change. They ought to heed Thoreau on the matter: "Chop wood, it will warm you twice." Or to put it another way, Limousine Liberals -- as they used to be called -- would burn down the house rather than step on a cockroach.

Too many liberals are willfully blind to the fact that democracy is an awkward and cumbersome form of government, and intelligent, thoughtful, caring people are vastly outnumbered by the greedy, the uncaring, the thoughtless, the ignorant and the willfully blind.

Thus, it takes hard work over time – and not empty, egotistical gestures – to bring about change. Just as constant, intense pressure forms the diamond, so does it reform society and politics.

But as many commenters make plain in this bastion of liberalism, unrealistic expectations are still a problem on the Lofty Left, where people are all too willing to throw away a precious vote on a candidate who hasn't the slightest chance of winning. Empty gestures may be good for inducing temporary euphoria, but they are hardly a solution to the problem at hand.

In short, third-party pyrrhicism is the crack cocaine of politics.
Rick
See above

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NO HUBRIS DE`` WE` `PERCEIVES-
It's Gather-Fire-Wood` Time-Seasons-
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No crunch-Teeth-Hate` Otter-Possums.
If I visit` VAMC-Ward` Otter-Dismays.
Tomorrow at VAMC I` Ought-0-Conks.
`
I'd Smash-Purple-Tops a` Turnip-o-Beets.
I Listened to Fanfares ` For-Common-Man.
I Visit de' VAMC tomorrow-No-Butt-Burns.
`
Mashed-Potatoes & Mashed-Purple-Turnip.
If James. M. E. or FBI Visit my-Homestead?
Plea? Please No burn Cig-Butt-Burn-Butts!
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FBI's have a` Heart. Sing` Common Man's`
`
Respect` a ` Common Man's` a Woman's`
Virtue` a ` Divine Grace-Gift's` a Struggle`
Tom C. ` a` Help Mortal-Human` a Rejoice`
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Tom C.? a` Know I No-Intend a` wiggle-wag,
and we mortals need-Divines `a `giggle-chuck,
as in` we humans need-Humble a` dispositions.
`
O, My day ...
Yours too?
It Be` wilds.
as in` aches.
We` blessed.
Woody's nice.
Woody's jailed.
Woody be sober.
Woody be labor.
He Look forever:
`
Woody need a`
Woman who a`
No wash sheets,
shirt, bib-pants,
nor gulp-brews.
`
Gaud. Annoy.
Tom C. Irks.
Tom's Pine-
Tree's Skin-
Tough-Bark-
`
We bark too.
I Visit Lake,
and `Coon-
Hollow too-
`
No do shoots.
No kill vermin.
No shoot coon.
`
I Live in woods.
Tom C. No Does
Do Impugn Rural.
`
smile . . .
no get erections.
visit the election.
no be melancholy.
no chase a` Coon.
No Bark up`Tree.
`
Gaud . . ,
Is editor alive?
Please inform?
reader worry:
`
Jake/Kerry?
no-gulp-wine.
no-be-a`lewd.
`
this comment?
it a`Go? or No?
Who in control?
`
Barack O. or? M.O.?
a` Rat` Mitt Willard?
a` AfterLife? We know?
`
ask Woody? Arlo?
ask` Oliver Sacks?
Sacks wrote a book:
`
- Hallucinations -
Oliver Sacks is -
a physicist - a -
neurosurgeon.

`
I've Appreciated.
He has Wild Ah!
sane-Experience.
`
The Man Who-
Mistook a Wife-
For a Hat. (read?)
`
no vote yet. election?
no erection. no. huh?
no be acting too rude?
`
Tom Cordle do` teach.
We folk grave` brews?
O, No! Good-Mentors.
Tom C. Respect what Blogger `
`
BrassAwee-A - ETC., (teSEE?` SMILE-
NO HUBRIS DE`` WE` `PERCEIVES-
It's Gather-Fire-Wood` Time-Seasons-
`
No crunch-Teeth-Hate` Otter-Possums.
If I visit` VAMC-Ward` Otter-Dismays.
Tomorrow at VAMC I` Ought-0-Conks.
`
I'd Smash-Purple-Tops a` Turnip-o-Beets.
I Listened to Fanfares ` For-Common-Man.
I Visit de' VAMC tomorrow-No-Butt-Burns.
`
Mashed-Potatoes & Mashed-Purple-Turnip.
If James. M. E. or FBI Visit my-Homestead?
Plea? Please No burn Cig-Butt-Burn-Butts!
`
FBI's have a` Heart. Sing` Common Man's`
`
Respect` a ` Common Man's` a Woman's`
Virtue` a ` Divine Grace-Gift's` a Struggle`
Tom C. ` a` Help Mortal-Human` a Rejoice`
`
Tom C.? a` Know I No-Intend a` wiggle-wag,
and we mortals need-Divines `a `giggle-chuck,
as in` we humans need-Humble a` dispositions.
`
O, My day ...
Yours too?
It Be` wilds.
as in` aches.
We` blessed.
Woody's nice.
Woody's jailed.
Woody be sober.
Woody be labor.
He Look forever:
`
Woody need a`
Woman who a`
No wash sheets,
shirt, bib-pants,
nor gulp-brews.
`
Gaud. Annoy.
Tom C. Irks.
Tom's Pine-
Tree's Skin-
Tough-Bark-
`
We bark too.
I Visit Lake,
and `Coon-
Hollow too-
`
No do shoots.
No kill vermin.
No shoot coon.
`
I Live in woods.
Tom C. No Does
Do Impugn Rural.
`
smile . . .
no get erections.
visit the election.
no be melancholy.
no chase a` Coon.
No Bark up`Tree.
`
Gaud . . ,
Is editor alive?
Please inform?
reader worry:
`
Jake/Kerry?
no-gulp-wine.
no-be-a`lewd.
`
this comment?
it a`Go? or No?
Who in control?
`
Barack O. or? M.O.?
a` Rat` Mitt Willard?
a` AfterLife? We know?
`
ask Woody? Arlo?
ask` Oliver Sacks?
Sacks wrote a book:
`
- Hallucinations -
Oliver Sacks is -
a physicist - a -
neurosurgeon.

`
I've Appreciated.
He has Wild Ah!
sane-Experience.
`
The Man Who-
Mistook a Wife-
For a Hat. (read?)
`
no vote yet. election?
no erection. no. huh?
no be acting too rude?
`
Tom Cordle do` teach.
We folk grave` brews?
O, No! Good-Mentors.
&
if I do a` &' it pokes!
`
It no go` GIN! hee!
Haw! ah` Jake! huh?
Tom C. Respect what Blogger `
`
BrassAwee-A - ETC., (teSEE?` SMILE-
NO HUBRIS DE`` WE` `PERCEIVES-
It's Gather-Fire-Wood` Time-Seasons-
`
No crunch-Teeth-Hate` Otter-Possums.
If I visit` VAMC-Ward` Otter-Dismays.
Tomorrow at VAMC I` Ought-0-Conks.
`
I'd Smash-Purple-Tops a` Turnip-o-Beets.
I Listened to Fanfares ` For-Common-Man.
I Visit de' VAMC tomorrow-No-Butt-Burns.
`
Mashed-Potatoes & Mashed-Purple-Turnip.
If James. M. E. or FBI Visit my-Homestead?
Plea? Please No burn Cig-Butt-Burn-Butts!
`
FBI's have a` Heart. Sing` Common Man's`
`
Respect` a ` Common Man's` a Woman's`
Virtue` a ` Divine Grace-Gift's` a Struggle`
Tom C. ` a` Help Mortal-Human` a Rejoice`
`
Tom C.? a` Know I No-Intend a` wiggle-wag,
and we mortals need-Divines `a `giggle-chuck,
as in` we humans need-Humble a` dispositions.
`
O, My day ...
Yours too?
It Be` wilds.
as in` aches.
We` blessed.
Woody's nice.
Woody's jailed.
Woody be sober.
Woody be labor.
He Look forever:
`
Woody need a`
Woman who a`
No wash sheets,
shirt, bib-pants,
nor gulp-brews.
`
Gaud. Annoy.
Tom C. Irks.
Tom's Pine-
Tree's Skin-
Tough-Bark-
`
We bark too.
I Visit Lake,
and `Coon-
Hollow too-
`
No do shoots.
No kill vermin.
No shoot coon.
`
I Live in woods.
Tom C. No Does
Do Impugn Rural.
`
smile . . .
no get erections.
visit the election.
no be melancholy.
no chase a` Coon.
No Bark up`Tree.
`
Gaud . . ,
Is editor alive?
Please inform?
reader worry:
`
Jake/Kerry?
no-gulp-wine.
no-be-a`lewd.
`
this comment?
it a`Go? or No?
Who in control?
`
Barack O. or? M.O.?
a` Rat` Mitt Willard?
a` AfterLife? We know?
`
ask Woody? Arlo?
ask` Oliver Sacks?
Sacks wrote a book:
`
- Hallucinations -
Oliver Sacks is -
a physicist - a -
neurosurgeon.

`
I've Appreciated.
He has Wild Ah!
sane-Experience.
`
The Man Who-
Mistook a Wife-
For a Hat. (read?)
`
no vote yet. election?
no erection. no. huh?
no be acting too rude?
`
Tom Cordle do` teach.
We folk grave` brews?
O, No! Good-Mentors.
&
if I do a` &' it pokes!
`
It no go` GIN! hee!
Haw! ah` Jake! huh?
`
`
&
P.S.
`
I Visited @ Salon.
I come back. Still.
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A comment about the Electoral College:

The advantage to the Electoral College system is that it functions like a cross between the Senate and the House. Nobody talks about this. It functions to insert geographic representation into the equation, not to the extent that the Senate does, but more than the House does.

If we voted on straight popular vote, the candidates would spend all their time in major population centers. No small state would ever see a candidate. It would be more important to spend time in San Francisco or Houston than to bother with Nashville or Columbus or Richmond. What, you live in Iowa? That's nice. Are there actually people in Iowa? or New Hampshire? Hey, you're kind of interesting during the primaries, but past that: Screw you.

We have a bicameral legislature because we wanted to have our cake and eat it - to make sure representation was proportional to population but to also make sure everyone had a voice that actually got heard. If you pull the Electoral College system, you disenfranchise a whole lot of Americans. Maybe that's fair; after all, there is something to be said for One Man (so to speak), One Vote, but the result will be that every Federal policy going will favor the Urban.
A comment about the Electoral College:

The advantage to the Electoral College system is that it functions like a cross between the Senate and the House. Nobody talks about this. It functions to insert geographic representation into the equation, not to the extent that the Senate does, but more than the House does.

If we voted on straight popular vote, the candidates would spend all their time in major population centers. No small state would ever see a candidate. It would be more important to spend time in San Francisco or Houston than to bother with Nashville or Columbus or Richmond. What, you live in Iowa? That's nice. Are there actually people in Iowa? or New Hampshire? Hey, you're kind of interesting during the primaries, but past that: Screw you.

We have a bicameral legislature because we wanted to have our cake and eat it - to make sure representation was proportional to population but to also make sure everyone had a voice that actually got heard. If you pull the Electoral College system, you disenfranchise a whole lot of Americans. Maybe that's fair; after all, there is something to be said for One Man (so to speak), One Vote, but the result will be that every Federal policy going will favor the Urban.
A comment about the Electoral College:

The advantage to the Electoral College system is that it functions like a cross between the Senate and the House. Nobody talks about this. It functions to insert geographic representation into the equation, not to the extent that the Senate does, but more than the House does.

If we voted on straight popular vote, the candidates would spend all their time in major population centers. No small state would ever see a candidate. It would be more important to spend time in San Francisco or Houston than to bother with Nashville or Columbus or Richmond. What, you live in Iowa? That's nice. Are there actually people in Iowa? or New Hampshire? Hey, you're kind of interesting during the primaries, but past that: Screw you.

We have a bicameral legislature because we wanted to have our cake and eat it - to make sure representation was proportional to population but to also make sure everyone had a voice that actually got heard. If you pull the Electoral College system, you disenfranchise a whole lot of Americans. Maybe that's fair; after all, there is something to be said for One Man (so to speak), One Vote, but the result will be that every Federal policy going will favor the Urban.

I apologize if this double-posts. That's the way OS is now - you're never sure if the first Post This Comment took.
Art
What did you say? I didn't quite catch it the first three times ;-)

Kosher
Yes. the Electoral College -- like our equally goofy primary system -- gives great weight to states like Ohio and Iowa. Some of us don't see that as a good thing, especially since sheep in Wyoming have more federal representation than do citizens in NYC
they kept telling me , last night, "this election is still going on!"
once upon a time, when, say, 8 oclock came, you got
yer Florida results...
you didn't hear that people had been standing in line for 3, 4, 5 hours and WERE STILL IN LINE. Wtf???!!!!
Talk about grit and determination!
~
I think the real story last night was America's fiercely saying
FUCK YOU to all factions that might infringe their freedom.
Give the m-fer who stood in line for 5 hours a presidential medal
of honor, no matter who he voted for. or ..she.of course.
they kept telling me , last night, "this election is still going on!"
once upon a time, when, say, 8 oclock came, you got
yer Florida results...
you didn't hear that people had been standing in line for 3, 4, 5 hours and WERE STILL IN LINE. Wtf???!!!!
Talk about grit and determination!
~
I think the real story last night was America's fiercely saying
FUCK YOU to all factions that might infringe their freedom.
Give the m-fer who stood in line for 5 hours a presidential medal
of honor, no matter who he voted for. or ..she.of course.