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Tony Wang

Tony Wang
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Just a city boy...but definitely not born and raised in south Detroit

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OCTOBER 18, 2011 6:53PM

A Platform for Occupy San Diego

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I took a walk to the Civic Center today so that I could see what the Occupy San Diego protests have evolved into.  Gone were the tents that I saw a week ago.  The police requested that those be moved, and the protestors complied.  I asked a couple of police officers about how the crowd had been acting, and they said "they've been cool."  They will require the crowd to move tonight, and I said hopefully they'll comply and you won't have to pepper spray them again.

You'll remember that there were cops who were seen bragging about how their nightsticks would get a workout in New York.  Not here.  These cops said they really don't want a confrontation and that they want everyone to move peacefully.  The San Diego police and the protestors seem to have a mutual respect for each other and it's preventing, for the most part, the ugly scenes we've seen in other cities.

There were flareups, but it resulted in a couple of people being arrested and the police offered to let them go if the protestors would break down the tents.  There's a huge difference in attitude here and it's something the police department should be proud of.

There have been many criticisms of the protestors, ranging from slams against them as stoned hippies and people who aren't willing to work hard to calling them confused and labeling them socialists or communists.  Most of these amount to little more than name calling.

However, there was one legitimate criticism of the movement.  The movement was expressing a lot of anger, which more enlightened financial sector leaders understood.  But complaining about a problem is one thing.  Suggesting a solution is something completely different.

Now, they have.

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You can see the signs there.  Obviously, you can't read the text.  But I obtained a copy of the requests.

What do the people at Occupy San Diego want?  Here's the list.

  • Passing HR 1489, which would reimplement many of the restrictions of the Glass-Steagall Act. 
  • Full investigation and prosecution of those who broke laws and created the financial crisis of 2008
  • Legislation to reverse the Citizens United decision
  • Enactment of a tax system similar to that which Warren Buffett advocates
  • An overhaul of the Securities and Exchange Commission
  • Limits on the influence of lobbyist that prevent lobbyists from writing legislation
  • Legislation to prevent federal regulators from leaving the government to go to work for the companies they regulated
  • Elimination of corporate personhood.

One of the few valid criticisms of the Occupy movement has now been eliminated. 

These are not radical requests that would destroy capitalism like many allege.  Some of them are clearly pipe dreams.  For example, the problem with the second request is that most Wall Street firms, even though they took the world to the edge of financial ruin, did not break the law.

But others are things that mainstream politicians and think tanks have pushed for, such as bringing back the regulations of Glass-Steagall.

 Now let's see what criticism will be leveled at the protestors.  It ought to be good.

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Wow! A whole load of MBA's.Not a word about restoring democracy?
Ethnic cleansing finished, its time to get back to business!
Snowden, I think that getting Citizens United overturned, eliminating corporate personhood, and limiting the influence of lobbyists would go a long way to restoring democracy.

And if you were pissed off about the debacle that took place in the fall of 2008, which most of us are, then bringing back the regulations of Glass-Steagall and prosecuting those who committed fraud would go a long way to taking care of that.
All good - but not worth a darn without stopping the selective enforcement of drug laws - which is terrorism - 6,000,000 people , mostly poor cannot vote because of bad policy.
I was more pissed on than off- but better broke than jack-booted, busted, raped and hiv infected for selling some pot...
Thanks for the insightful account; and, moreover, for getting your hands on a copy of their demands for us to read, showing the San Diego Group had enough good judgement and smarts to have demands written and available. Of course, many reporters at these Occupy Movement's demonstrations avoid
the intelligent spokepersons as part of their agenda to undermine the gathering storm here, and internationally.

The OWS Movement, in my post is seen as a resurgence of human spirit, a Human sociocultural springtime.

"Long resprout the blossoms of heart and soul: our Spring's season
to yield fruit above egoism's makeshift, selfish stems of reason."

"Re-Occupy Dignity and Human Rights" L.S. heatherly, 10/16/11
Snowden, there's a pretty strong movement already to legalize marijuana. I don't think the occupy San Diego people need to jump on that bandwagon. It would allow them to be marginalized by the talking heads, who will simply say, look at those guys who want to legalize weed! They're just a bunch of stoners.

Besides, medical marijuana is already legal in California. I can grow seven mature plants on my balcony if I want to.
L.S., there was one guy who seems to be handling the media and he's pretty good. I think he wants me to join because he invited me to the media group meeting. I may do that.
Tony - while you can grow pot in your backyard , poor city kids are locked up every day for meeting demand in the streets. This has been going on for decades - all over the country. The destruction of our democracy has been intentional and incremental - without a strong base - there is no left - no political motivation for justice. Do the math. It is not about you being able to grow pot - it is about limiting the political power of the majority. That is how Bush came to power, and how the regulations were altered - and how the crimes - not just on wall street - but all over the world - became possible. We deny historical facts to our own detriment - if one cannot cannot connect the destruction of urban America to the bush power grab - how can one understand the economic agenda of the elite?
Snowden, come on. You know as well as I do what we do. We take the land that's cheap, we renovate and gentrify, and we shove out the poor people who were living there. We've been doing that since we stole Manhattan from the Indians.
tony - u are talking gentrification - i am talking genocide - but i do not argue that genocide is the goal of the rightward shift - just an observable by-product of it. it is one thing to understand that genocide and slavery founded the fourtunes - but another to argue that we should condone it today
Snowden, I have a lot of problems with what the Bush administration did. But I will not say they engaged in genocide. You can argue that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were unjust. But genocide is a very specific act. The United States hasn't committed genocide since we slaughtered the natives who lived here when we wanted their land.
I appreciate you taking time to post these specifics. I can get behind that.
Tell that to an urban African American . See if you can find one who has not lost a friend or relative as a result of internal state sponsored terrorism (as defined in the text) . Genocide is the third and final stage. First is intimidation, second forced conversion. It is a fact the nations rightward drift can be attributed to just such a policy - that is still practiced all over the country.