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MARCH 3, 2009 3:25PM

Beat Generation Poetry...A response to Nanatehay

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   Not sure whose open call for poetry or if there even was one. Just know I keep seeing poetry everywhere and after reading Nanatehay's Ginsberg this morning, of course I had to RESPOND .
 
   Here are some gems from Jack Kerouac which is not poetry but to me poetic. Also a short masterpiece by Alan Ginsberg, and a tribute collage for William S. Burroughs. I chose not to paste any Burroughs on this post because frankly, I couldn't find any that wasn't extremely disturbing. However I'll provide this link for any of you brave and curious enough to take a look.

                       http://www.lucaspickford.com/burrbeats.htm

 

                                          
"Not enough ecstasy for me, not enough life, joy, kicks, darkness, music, not enough night".

- Jack Kerouac
 
The method must be purest meat
and no symbolic dressing
actual visions & actual prisons
as seen then and now.

Prisons and visions presented
with rare descriptions
correponding exactly to those
of Alcatraz and Rose.

A naked lunch is natural to us,
we eat reality sandwiches.
But allegories are so much lettuce.
Don't hide the madness.

- Allen Ginsberg

 

"The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!"

- Jack Kerouac "On the Road"

 

                         william_s_burroughs_collage                                                                        tribute to william s. burroughs
                                                collage by patrick deese

The phrase "Beat generation" arose out of a specific conversation between Jack Kerouac and John Clellon Holmes in 1948. They were discussing the nature of generations, recollecting the glamour of the Lost Generation, and Kerouac said, "Ah, this is nothing but a beat generation." They talked about whether it was a "found generation" (as Kerouac sometimes called it), an "angelic generation", or some other epithet. But Kerouac waved away the question and said beat generation - not meaning to name the generation, but to unname it.
Jack Clellon Holmes's celebrated article in late 1952 in the New York Times Magazine carried the headline title "This Is the Beat Generation." That caught the public eye. Then Kerouac annonymously published a fragment of On the Road called "Jazz of the Beat Generation," and that reinforced the curiously poetic phrase. So that's the early history of the term.

                     burbeats

 

 

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Kerouac's is one of my favorite sentences ever written. Mad fucking genius. These guys were remarkable.
You picked my fave jack quote -- hangs on my wall next to my desk ... and was the spirit of my 24 hrs. of snowstorm weirdness Sunday night ....
Thanks
Very nice selections. I enjoyed reading them.
I can understand what you are saying about Burroughs his is disturbing.
I don't know who started the open call but I do know it has been nice to read all the poetry today.
Just realized I should have provided a link for Nanatehay's post...

http://open.salon.com/blog/nanatehay/2009/03/03/blackbirds_and_howl
Jimmymac ...remarkable to be sure.
Cindy...which Kerouac sentence? and which snowstorm weirdness?
Fireeyes24...you know William Burroughs ? cool
Just because its not in traditional stanza form doenst mean its not poetry...

one more thing todo tonight before taking my friend out for her bday... grrr.. wonder what i did with all my poetry books
Oh, my. Burroughs, Ginsberg and everyone's fave, Kerouac, all on the same page. Excellent.
Trig, Feathered Thing was the one doing the call for poetry, Nana and others have said it quite clearly in their posts you retard.

That being said, I love this! You've got a nice little sampling here of some of my favorite work from the Beats. Rated
Yes I know Burroughs, I know many poets. SMILES!! Those nights on the porch I heard many them recited.
I love what just added.. Awesome!
Thanks Trig this was well done. Rated.
All good writers, and an excellent post!
Oh bouy..I've been away for a while. Just like a watched pot never boils a watched post never gets comments...So now I'll answer backwards for a change.
Tinkster yes they are and thank you
OE you are quite gracious
Fireeyes tell me if I'm wrong but I'm doubting your Gwamma read
you William S. Burroughs on the porch. Follow the link at the top of the post and check him out and get back with me.
Mr. Gfish please excuse me but I didn't see one thing in Nana's
post about this "feathered thing" but now I must go peruse her or his post. And thanks for loving this sampling.
celestial elf I will be off presently (well after my chicken wings) to
check out Kerouac's "Scripture of the Golden Eternity" , and I assume you know that "Howl" was one of the two featured works
on Nanatehay's post to which I am responding.
Boanehrjhayun your approval delights me
barbra anne you are of course correct so when I said Kerouacs
works on this page were not poetry I was of course incorrect.
Excellent post. I love those pieces of poetry. I can't say anything else except bravo and thank you!
ah, trigger man, that kerouac quote is one of my all time favorites. there was a one man kerouac tribute show playing in seattle for a long time, it was great. at the end, he was give the audience a chance to stump him by starting a kerouac quote and seeing if he could finish it. I saw that show three times and never saw him stumped.
response to nanatehay? i was just responding to catamitebastard, who sent out emails in response to feathered thing, who wanted to see some poetry (darn it!). i love what you've done here though; i feel like i need to be wearing dark glasses and a beret, snapping my fingers and saying, "dig it daddy-o, dig it, can you cats feel that crazy beat man?"

on a more somber note
:-(
for anybody who's interested i've now added a really awesome video of "howl" being read by john turtturo or somebody. it's a really good version; i'd check it out if i were you, it might even convince those people who didn't like the written version that ginsberg was in fact a genius.
No she didn't read him to me...
fireeyes, are you STALKing me?
I think she IS stalking you Nana, she's been acting a bit...strange recently. I saw her over at Trey Montana's blog earlier; he was trying to get her in some thing he called a "hot tub." looked like a goddamn over-grown whiskey barrel to me. Yip.
You HAVE to love Kerouac! Rated.
Great stuff Trig.
Rated
Nana and Mjay I am not Stalking Nana. I am not after that Trey Monata dude either..How have I been acting strange recently? Explain that to me please.
Damn it now I forgot what I was going to say to Trig.. Trig I will be back.. Have to check on dinner.
Ah, Ms. Fireeyes, here you are! Where have you been? I thought you were interested in looking at my...herbal candles.
A naked lunch is natural to us,
we eat reality sandwiches.
But allegories are so much lettuce.
Don't hide the madness.

That is snap, snap, ...heavy man
Alrighty then as Jim Carrey as Ace Ventura said several times
and as I have said to fireeyes many times.......
RennLady thank you and you are welcome , you make me smile.
Cap'n I would have LOVED to seen that show !
Nanatehay I will be (using my sons laptop) in a minute to
check the Turturro interpretation of "Howl" ...can't wait!
Kind of Blue glad you liked ...snap, snap snap
Mjay and Fireeyes and Nanatehay you have gotten off subject
and Montana push your herbal candles elsewhere you pimp
I'm still lost and Jack can immolate with all the madmen who can't handle the Existential condition he likes.

Great poetry
Okay Trig.. I am back.. I found Burrough when I was in high school. I still read poetry all my life not just with my grandma. I have read Junk and Naked Lunch.

Here are a couple of his..

Junk is the ultimate merchandise. The junk merchant does not sell his product to the consumer, he sells the consumer to the product. He does not improve and simplify his merchandise, he degrades and simplifies the client. William S. Burroughs
US author (1914 - 1997)

In the U.S. you have to be a deviant or exist in extreme boredom... Make no mistake, all intellectuals are deviants in the U.S. Williams S. Burroughs .. Yage Letters
US author (1914 - 1997
"The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars"

from On the Road

cool post

(just from my weird weekend. may post it later)
http://open.salon.com/blog/tinkerertink69/2009/03/03/another_allen_ginsberg_poem_america

follow this to Tinks post for more Ginsberg that is way far out there
but relevant yet today...written in the late 50's
...and remember, tip your wait, but not too hard, they brittle!! :)
Fireeyes I am impressed that you've read those works of Burroughs...
Weird it is that Junkie so fascinated me that I in fact had to try it out and turn into a junkie for a while...talk about a good influence huh.
Naked Lunch is a trip into the surreal and messed up. The fact that you even made it through the book tells me you're quite disturbed. Like me!

Cindy I thought that might be the one you were talking about...

Crap..need to stay the fuck in order here . AE , i know you're still lost man, and believe me I'm right there with ya.
There's comfort that can be found in the angst of people who thought too much, like these guys
Are Trig/Nana/Tink/ brothers? and Trey, garfish and Mjay their first cousins? you all r tight!, in the best way oh and the Capn, i forgot him, he is the good neighbor.
Trig great selection of some powerful cool words.
Quite disturded at times.... LOL!! I had to laugh at that. Glad I could impress you. SMILES! They both were very disturbing, surreal and totally messed up. I read those two then turned around and read Valley of the Dolls. All three with in a week. Main reason was to piss my mom off. She had grounded me for being ME, my dad was out of town so for a week all I could do was read books. I went to the library and picked up those three disturbing books because I knew she would get pissed off at me for reading them. By the time I was done with all three books my dad got home ungrounded me and I was off being myself again. SMILES!! So now you know the story why I picked up those two books and the Valley of the Dolls. I did learn a lot from them, they were disturbing but interesting. But I didn't go junkie until in my early twenties.
Arianna you little owl flippered seductress. I don't know any of these people from Adam ! But thanks on the "powerful cool words" .

FE hilarious comment...glad you read the books. The reason you did be damned. And glad you held off the junkie tendencies til your twenties. I wasn't so lucky.