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Trudge164
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Sometimes serious, sometimes comical, always topical. =========================== A guy can dream and drown in a deluge of his own delusional thinking. Can't he? ========================= People have said this about me: "He was just one of those guys with that weird light around him. He just knew he wasn't gonna get so much as a scratch here." --Willard talking about Kilgore, "Apocalypse Now" =========================== It is what it is until it no longer is, then it becomes something else.

NOVEMBER 1, 2010 4:09PM

Stop! Calling Me An Open Salon Blog Whore!

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Or anyone else who likes to self-promote for that matter! 

 

Lately, there seems to be a lot of posts about blog-whoring. This issue seems to rear its ugly head whenever this place gets a new boat load of bloggers.

I don't have a problem with people sending me PMs telling me about their latest post. As a matter of fact, I welcome it. Especially since the "Recent" feed has been clog with SPAM (like a toilet in a drug rehab hospital just before a shake down inspection) which makes it difficult to see the latest real posts by writers.

On April 28, 2009, I posted the following concerning the term blogwhore, blogwhoreing or blog-pimping:

"Wanna Date? "

  

 

tinker bell  

 

Now that I got your attention…

 

Recently, the term "blog whore" has come to my attention. As I understand it, the term (and its many transmutations): "blog whore", "blog whoring", etc. means people who are shamelessly sending Personal Messages (PMs) to their friends about a story they just posted. I resent this term.

 

Most of the people on OS claim to be writers; most of you are indeed professional writers: authors, poets, song writers, screen writers, journalists, Public Relations writers, even ad copywriters. 

 

In the real world, writers of all stripes, who take their work seriously (especially comedy writers) form writer’s groups in which they let their colleagues read what they have written.

 

Successful writer's groups are the ones in which the writers are like-minded or they write in the same genres. In a rather loose manner, I use the OS Favorites/Friends list as a writer's group. This means that if you are on my Favorites list it is because I enjoy your posts and look forward to your next post. And from reading your comments on my posts I have concluded that you like my posts too.

 

Which is why, I can't understand why a lot of you seem offended when you receive PMs announcing your friends' recent posts. Some OS bloggers even put other bloggers' PMs in their Spam folder. Would you do that to someone in your writing group?

 

I am well aware that the OS editors have built some mechanisms to announce everyone’s recent posts. On the Home Page the editor’s have placed the following tabs to make it easy for us to view recent posts: Cover, Editor Picks, Popularity and Most Recent. On the Home Page’s left-hand column there is an Activity Feed to so we can see who has blogged, commented, or rated. The right-hand column has two sections: Most Viewed and New Posts. They have even placed a column on our own blog page to let us know our friends have posted something new.  

 

However, these sections are constantly being updated. So your recent post might get bumped within seconds of being promoted. Of course, if you are interested in one of your friends' recent posts, you can easily check out their blog. However, you might still miss their recent post.

So that is why sending PMs about your posts is helpful.

 

I am not promoting writer's groups. What I am advocating is a sane way to promote our blogs. For example, I may post something that I think Blogger-X might enjoy. I simply send this blogger a PM asking him to take a look. There is nothing wrong with this. It is similar to announcing to my coworkers, “Hey, check out my new cell phone. It brews coffee.” Those interested will take a look.

 

In an effort to simplify the PM process, I propose the following:

 
  • Announce to your OS buddies a recent post, simply by writing in the Subject Line: "Posted: [Title of Post]". If your title is very long, just the first three words will do.
  • Save your friends time by NOT placing anything in the Message Section. This way they won’t have to open your PM. Most of us are not publishers so your PM does not have to be the length of a query letter. If you need to add more info to the PM write this in the Subject Line: "Posted: [Title of Post]  More". But make the message short. Too much info and I may not need to read your post. Besides, if you have a strong title they won't need to know more.
  • Add "Linked" to the Subject Line and provide a link in the message section . For example: "Posted: Title Linked".  

I don’t recommend you PM all your Friends with all your posts just PM the posts you think will interest them.

 

Of course you do not have to follow these rules. In fact you can ignore, change, add, or delete them to suit your needs. However, if you want to send me a PM of your latest post, please follow them.

 

So let’s put those hookers out of work by not being afraid to say, "Look at what I just posted!"

 

 

 

 

POE

 

Update: If you do send PMs addressing your latest posting, please don't send multiple messages promoting the same post. If you do send PMs addressing your latest posting, please don't send multiple messages promoting the same post. If you do send PMs addressing your latest posting, please don't send multiple messages promoting the same post. If you do send PMs addressing your latest posting, please don't send multiple messages promoting the same post. If you do send PMs addressing your latest posting, please don't send multiple messages promoting the same post. If you do send PMs addressing your latest posting, please don't send multiple messages promoting the same post. Annoying isn't it?

 

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I understand what you are saying here Trudge.
I only Pm 1/3 of the people on my list.
Like I said yesterday that is 2/3 less than what I read.
I am lucky to work online 7 days a week so it's easy for me, but for others that have a brick and mortar job it is not that easy.
So I have sent emails saying." just tell me to get the heck of your message section" and I will.
That's all.
I do like how you describe a spam though..:)
Rated with hgs
h u g s.. potatoe chip grease hahahaha..
I didn't! I wouldn't! I never will! And I agree - with SPAM clogging the feed, it's the only way to find out one of your friends has written something unless you have nothing better to do all day than stare and your OS page!
It's a glitch! Like multiple comments, we surely do not wish to have two messages go out. I wish that we could have multiple spam deletes, that's for sure.

"Blogwhore" is a term that I never liked, but a better one never caught on. "Internal spam"? Nahhh.

Anyway, hugs and ratings!
I find the word 'blogwhore' a ridiculous term, not to mention somewhat offensive when you're only telling your faves you've written a post...I appreciate the heads up, it's too hard to find otherwise.

A blogwhore might be a good term for someone who keeps sending double or quadruple PMs in order to get attention, even after many polite requests for that post-er to stop it.....to me, this is the best way to make sure you're never read, in case any of those types are reading this.
Okay. But I've got to ask, one blog whore to another, how do you feel about "whore bloggerrs"???


P.S. Hey, bite me, Pavanne! I LIKE staring at my OS page all day!
:~D
P.S. BTW, is that Tink wearing drag in that picture? He looks HAWT!!!
When I only had like 4 favorites I could keep track of everybody's new blogs. Now they get replaced so fast I miss many. So the PM's help me catch what I missed. (Does that make me a Favorites Slut?) Besides...calling us Blog Whores is an insult to legitimate sex workers.
I just send messages to Joan Walsh. I figure her PM box has about 100,000,000 messages, all unread, cause she's too busy going on Hard Ball with Tim Burton or something.

I very rarely blogwhore, cause, when I do, strange things happen, like Ed I Tor shows up at a Tink post.

I know, weird huh?

So how do I promote myself?

I DON'T!! :D
And damn right that's me in drag!! Teeheehee!! Las Vegas was a very good place for me during the 90s!! Teeheehee!!
Getting good enough to make the search engines would help. As there is a "favorites" list, there ought to be a "most popular list."
How come I never get one from you? Ain't I a favorite? This hurts Trudge. It hurts to the quick!
I agree completely. If I get a PM announcing a new post I am happy to check it out. I would miss many great posts if I only looked at the feed or the updates. I just figure that when I get more than one from the same person it is because they weren't sure they hit the send button.
At times, OS is a little sticky when you send things. I do this with comments some days.
Thanks for your post.
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Safe_Bet's Amy - I didn't mean it in a bad way! I'd like to sit around here all day - I just can't! :-)
Yesterday I was all for calling it "blogtouting," but today I'm leaning toward "bloghawking." Tomorrow...?
How about "blog-promoting"?
I concur with Romantic Poetess in every regard here.
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The topic of promoting posts, or "blog-whoring" as it's known in the Common Tongue, comes up every few months. I don't do it myself, but I don't have a problem with people who do. The way you suggest going about it does seem reasonable.
I'm making a list of people who have publicly stated they're okay with getting PMs about new posts... I try to look at most of the posts I get notified about, but we all got limited time... (Except Linda...)
Whether you consider it "whoring" or not, advertising your blog by way of PM is nonetheless "push advertising", by definition. And most people, I'd venture to say, are going to be annoyed to at least some degree by push advertising. Wikipedia defines spam as "the use of electronic messaging systems (including most broadcast media, digital delivery systems) to send unsolicited bulk messages indiscriminately". Though I assume you'd argue that advertising one's blog via PMs is not *indiscriminate*, it's arguably not the most discriminating method, either. So while I think "whoring" takes the complaint a bit too far, I nonetheless think that the sending of unsolicited advertisements about one's blog (even to one's friends, or maybe ESPECIALLY to one's friends) is an annoying and slightly desperate practice that's akin to spamming, nonetheless.
All, thank you for your comments.

Interesting. It seems more people are now more tolerant of self-promoting one's posts than over a year ago. My suggestions were meant to make it easier for the recipient to discern a promo PM from other types of Personal Messages. This is how I usually announce my recent posts.

However, I don't always promote all my posts. I usually promote those that are of a timely nature or the ones I feel strongly about.

Also, I don't always promote my PM posts to all my Favorites.
John Sabian, you bring up some very interesting points. However, the recipients always have the power to delete messages that they deem as SPAM like what most people do with junk mail: electronic or snail. Plus, they can reply that they do not wish to get any more PMs promoting posts. A request which I honor.
I had commented similarly long ago about the same topic. I think people have to learn to use the delete button more efficiently. If they dont want to receive PMs they can PM back a polite message at which point I would promptly remove them from my favorites. No harm done and no offense taken. People are just too edgy with problems I believe and need to chill....
Rated indeed!
check out Google. You've hit the big time:

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=blog+whore&btnG=Google+Search
Traveller1, my point exactly.

David Price, thanks. It's all about content and title.
Mr. Trudge: Yes, the delete button is always an option, and honoring a "remove me" request is certainly..., well, honorable. However, these things, while appropriate, extend courtesy *retroactively*. Arguably, it would be even more courteous to obviate the need to extend such courtesy in the "last place" (i.e. upon request) by avoiding in the first place any action which makes the retroactive courtesy seem necessary at all. A proven history of interesting posts is really all anyone should need in order to promote their blog.
@John Sabian, you are right when you mention that a history of interesting post is all one needs to promote one's blog. It is the case of one's reputation preceeding one's self.

However, in Open Salon as in the rest of this information overloaded world a little promoting didn't hurt anyone. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Plus, it would be rather vain of a blogger to think that all they need is to post something compelling and the world will beat a path to their blog. Even Shakespeare put out handbills for his plays.
When I find myself in times of too many PMs
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom,
"Let them be."
Apologies to Paul.
MHold, thanks. I'm sure Paul would not have been offended.
I am so adrift in work and papers during the school year that I gratefully value pms. I don't want to miss my fave faves, but still sometimes do. I wish all my faves sent them so I could at least pick away at them when time permits. You're no blog whore, senator. (Or words to that effect) thanks ! rated...
You left out photographers..... I am saddened by this over sight.
Persistent Muse, how did you know I was a senator?

Alquis Kemzys, don't even get me started on photographers!
Trudge, YOU'RE NOT A WHORE, you're a beautiful person. I got your email and it touched me, in spots I haven't been touched in months, I cried, real tears, and decided I would become a legit blogger!!!

One with a story to tell, about my life as a person, and not just a spammer!! ~Real tears~ I shall make everyone proud of me, including you, my brother, Wayne!!

Yes, I knew it was you, by the way you dotted your Is. Please tell our other brother, Tinkerer, I know he's alive and well too!! He won't return my phone calls!!

~more tears~
Mary Lin, you're my sister? Now I feel all icky about that time in that dimly lit club in the Phillipines. Please don't tell my wife.
Trudge, I feel icky too!!! We're brothers?

Lord, what will the soap opera script writers think of next!!! Makes what we did in Guam seem very, very wrong!! EWWWW!!! Poor donkey won't walk straight for years!!!

Oh well....

**Wanders off**
We're brothers! Well that explains the family resemblance.
:::Walks off to find a plastic surgeon:::
I think that's a very good take on the whole thing.r ated
I've always been concerned about this myself, so when I send out a pm, I make sure it's one I actually want people to really read. I post every day, so if I did that every day to people, they'd probably get very angry at me. So I only do it when I feel it's important enough that I'd like my friends to read.

I read most everyone else's stuff, too, and their posts help me figure out when they have something I'd like to read. Lately, I've been a bit slow on reading because I'm participating in NaNoWriMo, but once this month is over, I'll be back to my speed reading antics.
Caroline, thank you.

Duane, very good idea. I do the the same thing myself. I only PM bloggers on some of my post. Good luck with Batty's challenge. I have tried many times, but never got out of the starting gate.