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Victoria Carlson

Victoria Carlson
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June 09
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L.A. native. Single mother. Writer. Dog whisperer. Gemini. Crossword geek. Recovering Catholic. Novice Buddhist. Multi-tasker. Jedi Master. Currently working on a collection of short stories based upon personal experiences. Recent contributor to the L.A. Times and featured on Salon.com

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APRIL 25, 2012 2:46PM

Dating In a Post-Feminist Era

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 After a six-month, self-imposed dating hiatus, I decided it was time to get my feet wet again and reactivate my online dating account. So, I totally gutted and updated my profile.

This time, my goal was to make it brief and witty. Brief, because experience has taught me a lot of men have short attention spans. I even posted a cute new profile pic.

And you know what?

My new profile is royally tanking. (Sort of like how, when Daffy Duck tries to compete with Bugs Bunny and Bugs puts in minimal effort and brings down the house, while Daffy works his ass off and is rewarded with the lonely sound of crickets echoing in the empty auditorium.)

I needed an expert opinion and fast, so I forwarded a copy of my OKC profile to our brilliant OS friend, James Mark Emmerling. His exact words were: “Jesus, woman, you are terrifying. Verbal. A verbal chick.”

He went on to say, via a private message:

 “You are an intelligent gentleman's delight of a gal. Mouthy, smart as a whip (men love to be whipped), immensely emotionally intelligent, sexually uninhibited, but, as they say, "putting your pearls before swine". Write what it is like to be a post-feminist. The feminists rule the airwaves. They have a dim view of men. But you? You are one of that rare breed of wimmin that actually LIKE men. this is an unusual thing. Consult the great and humble (haw)

CAMILLE PAGLIA.”

Now, James, I know, would never want me to dumb myself down, but then James is also one of those intelligent gentlemen who delights in a girl like me.

On the other hand, we have my my friend, Tony, the most testosterone driven man I have ever known, who advised me to don a push-up bra and heels and post a sexy photo of myself in order to snare a date. “Men are visual creatures,” he said, matter-of-factly, after taking a drag on his cigarette.

So, is that the ticket to meeting someone? Dolling myself up and dumbing myself down?

Really? I can’t just be who I am? I’m starting to think maybe not.

 I’m discovering a lot of these guys-- who purport their desire for a smart, down-to-earth, funny, no drama girl, who’s happy with her life and has relatively little baggage-- don’t really want that. Well, maybe they want that, they just want it in a hot little package to boot.

Maybe Tony’s right about guys being visual creatures. Maybe this is why so many of the guys I message check out my profile, but take it no further. I’m not their cup of tea visually, so they move on. (Which is a shame, actually, because in person, I’m so much cuter. I’m one of those unfortunate souls who doesn’t photograph well. I don’t know how many times I’ve met someone and was told I’m not only much prettier in real life, but also look much younger.)

But maybe James is right, too. I don’t need a man to complete me and I don’t need someone else to make me happy. I’ve already got that covered. Perhaps, secretly, some men want a damsel they can rescue, someone to make them feel manly and needed. Maybe they fear a confident woman. Maybe they fear they won’t measure up. I dunno.

What I do know is the guy for me will be my equal, sometimes even my rival. He’ll challenge me and call me out on my shit. He’ll at times, knock me off my high horse. He’ll push me to my limit because he’ll know I’m letting fear hold me back. He’ll inspire me to be a better version of myself. He will take charge in the bedroom, but just long enough to unleash my inner animal. He will be turned on by my intelligence and will match my sarcastic wit.

By the way, if this man actually exists, I have a feeling, I won’t be meeting him online.  

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well now, who could be right, tony or me?
i bet on me, ha.
Have you considered entering a convent? Aren't nuns considered to be brides of Christ? This is a great read.
men are visual, sure, but what they envision is certainly NOT
the perfect little package, as u say. The Cali mindset is
not at all real. None of us real fellows take California
and what comes out of it with anything but
wry delightful irony.......A real fellow, if he has
any sense of reality, knows he himself is physically
flawed in some grievous way, according to the Prototype,
which alas can only be found for real in, ah, gay porn.

Thus a need for smart shrewd sexy brainy chicks arises
in the real male community. We too do not photograph well,
sometimes...we are just as connected to the cultural stereotypes
as you wimmins are. We hide in the background, being polite,
showing respect, whatnot, because we can not do otherwise...
twas the way we were raised...

this pearl before swine metaphor is apt.
i am glad i thunk it up.
blazing hot brains is the ultimate aphrodisiac.
that is the simple truth. all else is false.

All is vanity, you read that in your Bible, i am sure.
To sell.
Now, wait, i am not saying there is anything wrong, existentially
or ontologically, or even morally, with a push up bra and even heels,
tho they are rather intimidating (the heels, not the bra) to us
sensitive guys...

this sounds just fine..:
"y equal, sometimes even my rival. He’ll challenge me and call me out on my shit. He’ll at times, knock me off my high horse. He’ll push me to my limit because he’ll know I’m letting fear hold me back. He’ll inspire me to be a better version of myself. He will take charge in the bedroom, but just long enough to unleash my inner animal.'


then again, i havent had a date in quite awhile...
i am, uh, ha, saving myself...
i have reflected more on these push up bras, in a scholarly way.
what goes up must come down, eventually.
up? down?
is it really all that important, i ask myself...
heels..
make wimmin seem like birds, to me.
the way they walk in em. the heels, i mean.

uh, what was the message?
oh yes, appearances, etc...
tony is sabotaging your chances, maybe, for his own purposes?
i dunno...
could be!!
no, you won't. my dating experience has shown the '"lower" the profile the more genuinely interesting and alluring the woman. i have enough competitors in business, i don't need them in my bed. i'll take the curious over the pretentious any day--and here's another tip: sensuous women do sensuous things, and that doesn't just mean sex. males aren't all as stupid as many women think.
Well, what James says is scripture. Having said that, remember that OS is not a correct specimen of men outside OS. A big mistake is to correlate success with intelligence. Most of the successful men I know are not that smart; they all look for thin arm candy, the dumber the better. In action, none of them can put two words together to save his life. Yet, both smart and dumb, men are visual. A sexy picture is an asset. Also, your profile can be intelligent, but not too much. You don't want to come off as intimidating.

On the other hand, it is all up to you. What do you want? if you want an intelligent man, write the smartest profile you can, and ask for specific qualities. Direct is the best approach. I also think that corresponding online for a while will give you a comprehensive idea about the man. Online definitely has the advantage of a much bigger pool to choose from. R
i agree with thoth. there is nothing, and i mean nothing more of a turn off than folks out to prove how "smart" they are. if u have to actually think about that or doubt it you've been sold the swamp. join organizations where you can see "men at work," not for the purpose of getting themselves laid. poor critters don't know what to do naturally any more.
If you don't typically hoist your breast up under your chin and wear stilettos that you can only wear while remaining seated, I certainly wouldn't put anything like that on for a profile photo. Kinda bait and switch anyway.
You look fabulous in your profile shot. I think you should PM a link of this post to a bunch of the OS guys and ask them to comment. It would be very entertaining. :)
r.
Your profile pic here is great, and who wants the person who would be attracted to the push up stiletto heel woman type anyway ( it doesn't sound like you would)
I know you are a single parent but maybe some activities instead of online dating. I took up kayaking ( I am married so not to meet anyone) and was amazed at the people I met and the fun I had. The weekend trips look like so much fun. Also archery, I was the only female in the class.. sounds geeky but it was fun. Good luck you sound like a interesting smart funny lady, hope you meet someone to surprise you.
Ha, thanks for all the comments. I'm definitely not going the way of the stiletto heel. That's not who I am. I simply refuse to dumb myself down. I need to be true to myself.

This time round, I'm not looking at online dating as my only option, it's simply that, an option. Rita is right, I have to find activities I can enjoy that will allow me to meet other people, make new friends. I'd love to volunteer somewhere. Do some good in this world.
Hey Victoria,
I came back to add something, and saw Rita already said it. Volunteering is fabulous. I recently volunteered for a woman running for State Attorney. I met a lot of wonderful people (too many attorneys to count), and while they were mostly female, and the men where mostly gay, I had a blast. AND, gay men have straight brothers, or their boyfriend's do, or whatever. The point is it was a great way to meet a lot of civic minded intelligent people.
hey Im available. kinda. oh nevermind haha. hey you're a real looker from your new profile shot. holy cow I couldnt believe its the same woman. you look way better without the hat. I dont know where you advertised, it must have been the wrong place. what did you ad say? yeah its true that guys dont want to think too hard when dating. it takes all our cerebral capacity to just not act dumb around beautiful women. you can laugh but new psychology experiments are proving its quite true....
The "Home Life" you describe for yourself, in case you hadn't noticed, is very much like ordinary job-milieu situations for most men these days: competition among equals, one upmanship, etc. What in the world makes you think that any man is going to find that something to look forward to?! Years ago, a great many men had jobs which required obvious and useful skills, and the men got a sense of competence from that, which is in short supply in modern "jobs", where "getting along with people " is described as a top drawer requirement, and what you are producing is often kind of vague. I always thought that the great thing about women is just that they are so different, not that they are the "equal", which is a totally ambiguous term. No , the men are not afraid of you, they just don't want any more competition, which is what you seem to be keen on. There is no requirement at all that you must be some kind of doormat. (See Toni Grant for more hints.)
P.S. There is not a straight line between stillettos and brains. In fact, Ms. Grant, nobody's fool, thinks there are four basic archtypes, or modes, that any woman can "be" at various times of life. You limit yourself by saying "that's not who I am", since you recreate yourself every minute anyway.