Virginia Hoge

Virginia Hoge
Pasadena, California, US
June 03
Virginia Olive Hoge is an artist and writer living in Pasadena, California. She was first introduced to Topix when a serious of hostile threads and polls were built on the Pasadena Topix forums which attacked her and her liberal blog. The Topix threads built on Topix for Virginia/Ginny/Olive, now number in the hundreds. She has become one of the most trolled posters ever on Topix, stalked the entire time and is well-known there. A fighter, she has fought back on Topix, defending herself and others there. She jumped onto the National Topix forums to understand better what was going on around the entire Country and beyond, and became familiar with the raw, brutal, coarse, dramatic, violent, and mythical world that is Welcome to the outer-limits of free speech, the Wild, Wild West of Citizen Journalism. She was on Topix for four years. What a odyssey it was.


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FEBRUARY 14, 2012 11:27AM

Is this the Internet Steve Jobs envisioned? Update 5

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Bond - Terry Winters

Bond - Terry Winters

Again, you can't connect the dots looking forward; you can only connect them looking backwards. So you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. You have to trust in something - your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. This approach has never let me down, and it has made all the difference in my life. - Steve Jobs

Connect the Dots 

Technology is nothing. What's important is that you have a faith in people, that they're basically good and smart, and if you give them tools, they'll do wonderful things with them. - Steve Jobs

Will they??


Is this the internet Steve Job's envisioned???


Where Privacy, is impossible?


Where Censorship is all over the place? 


An Authoritarian Control tool? To gather every bit of private information and data on us to Monitor, Control, play with, manipulate and to Spy on us? 


A vehicle for slander and libel? One where facilitated destruction of lives on a massive scale is enabled? A destructive weapon?


Cyber-stocks? A modern and much more widespread deadly persecution tool? Individuals, local communites, torn apart? Their peace and their lives shattered?


A Warzone?



An Internet where secret courts make secret laws which strip away our rights guaranteed in the Constitution? Laws that are broken by the secret agencies they serve like the NSA?

An Internet where so much harm to millions of innocent lives is enabled by one draconian "law"? 

An internet where people's lives can be destroyed and invaded and they do not have legal means to address this, because no laws exist to protect them? On the contrary, unjust "laws" aid the destruction.


Where forces of Power trip over each other. Each hungry for Control of us. Each hungry for our money. Each hungry for our data, which has become a coveted, big dollar$$$ commodity?

An internet grabbed up by the power-hungry who long ago took ethics out of the equation?

Where libel is rampant. Where cyber-bullying is ending too many lives. Lives which are uncounted, the numbers are not even known or kept track of, so many deaths unreported on, and slick propaganda shows are carried on day and night to make sure no one cares or hears about it.

The Terror Tech Boyzzz

Where Americans are having their security stripped away by their own National Security Agency which forgot it existed to keep American's secure and got a little too tight with the unethical Silicon Valley Tech Boyz - with their Gamer urge and Media Disruption, their Inhumanity - to Dominate us with the spy toyz they love to develop and are sooooooooo proud of:

We don't need you to type at all. We know where you are. We know where you've been. We can more or less guess what you're thinking about. - Eric Schmidt

It's hard to do that with people who think emotionally. A lot of people think in terms of people, emotions, and feelings. That's more complicated. Engineering mentality makes it, in theory, a little easier.

Marc Andreessen


It's hard to do that with people who think emotionally. A lot of people think in terms of people, emotions, and feelings. That's more complicated. Engineering mentality makes it, in theory, a little easier.

Marc Andreessen


All Hail the New King Google... I for one welcome our new insect overlords. :-) - Rich Skrenta

They face superior weapons and a difference in culture and ethics. They are the French in this battle. They die. - Chris Tolles

Where no laws or oversight keeps them from doing this? On the contrary, the laws, some ruled by secret courts, service them, in a Country where the media can be bought off?


Steve Jobs hoped the Internet would change the World, but he never, ever, ever, thought that meant Surveillance, Repression and Fear Tactics, the end of Privacy. He could not have imagined - unless in a nightmare - what happened instead, the number of lives affected.

Not to mention, the massive disaster this will be for American business, which no longer has a secure Internet. Not only not secure but dangerously enabling of the potential for the slander of their business.

Jobs understood that when he said the Internet was going to change the World, there are some things you Don't Want to Change:

These technologies can make life easier, can let us touch people we might not otherwise. You may have a child with a birth defect and be able to get in touch with other parents and support groups, get medical information, the latest experimental drugs. These things can profoundly influence life. I’m not downplaying that.

But it’s a disservice to constantly put things in this radical new light — that it’s going to change everything. Things don’t have to change the world to be important. [Wired, February 1996]

Symbol of Humanity lr 

Things which matter most must never be at the mercy of things which matter least. - Goethe

Steve Jobs knew what was important


My favorite things in life don't cost any money. It's really clear that the most precious resource we all have is time.

He also knew there were dangers in human nature to be considered:

“I’m an optimist in the sense that I believe humans are noble and honorable, and some of them are really smart. I have a very optimistic view of individuals. As individuals, people are inherently good.

I have a somewhat more pessimistic view of people in groups. And I remain extremely concerned when I see what’s happening in our country, which is in many ways the luckiest place in the world. We don’t seem to be excited about making our country a better place for our kids.” [Wired, February 1996]

It all got down to his Humanism. Plain and simple, he respected human beings, unlike the Terror-Tech boyz and their partering with their good friend the NSA, which was later to come.

He knew, unlike them, that human beings and their rights needed to be front and center on the Internet. Something the Terror-Tech boyzzzz, forgot.

The results have been horrendous and untimately, totally unsuccesful. Its way past time, to salvage the Internet, to save privacy, to establish safety, to really protect American's and not fund massive Spy agencies, which do not.

There are forces of Tech Power so evil, they would destroy us, our Country, if unchecked.

The Internet is either going to work or it is not, and in order for it to work, it has to work for the People, its not even a option not to. It will destroy itself, if the power-hungry continue their greedy co-option of it.


Joseph Campbell, he knew what was important:

The rapture that is associated with being alive, is what it is all about.

When we quit thinking primarily about ourselves and our own self-preservation, we undergo a truly heroic transformation of consciousness.


 Star Wars has a valid mythological perspective. It shows the state as a machine and asks, "Is the machine going to crush humanity or serve humanity?"

Humanity comes not from the machine but from the Heart.

- Joseph Campbell.



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Steve Jobs did not invent the internet.
Did I say that? I said he was a supporter of the Internet who said it would make a better world.

The world it has created, Topix tot, is not the one Steve Jobs had in mind. He would roll over in his grave.
Steve Jobs has taken a lot of hits lately I have seen. I do not think this is fair. The man had humanity.
Steve Jobs had humanity, hello?

Why the wall against it, Silicon Valley? Why the insensitivity, at this level? You cannot want to save the whales, and not care about the people right here in America, also.
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