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Why I am "voicegal" (updated title)

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When is the earliest memory of misogyny in my life?

Like Deborah Young, I don’t have memories of a first misogynist moment.  I was raised in its swamp.  My mother, a rural child of the Depression, nursed me on it.  By the time I was eight I knew that her designs for my future included that I be pretty, popular, have boyfriends, get married, and have children.  She loved to tell her tales of winning the “prettiest legs” contest in high school, and the thrill of being a college cheerleader, all in the context of her desires for my future.  The 1970’s were confusion to her—she often expounded upon her anger and desperation about the “blurring” of lines between male and female, straight and gay.  She despaired of my career ambitions  (once famously telling me “you’re going to make yourself so interesting that no one will marry you”) all the while supporting and exalting my brother’s choices.

My father supported our family, and was thus relegated to the role of “provider.”  In retrospect, I can see how our culture’s rigid gender roles of the 1950’s and 60’s trapped him into behaviors that didn’t suit his gifts and needs.  He did his best to provide and later rebelled by divorcing my mother when I (the youngest child) was a freshman in college.

At age eight I realized that the boys had all the fun in school, and got most of the attention, while I was relegated to being a good student and a “nice girl” for attention.  At ten I was the principal target of a boys’ club “anti-girl campaign” that included our female teachers.  Nothing was done to stop their cruelties—the school principal called the boys into his office and told them they were “the worst thing that happened to the school,” which became a badge of pride for the boy bullies.  At twelve I ran for student body president and lost because, as was openly opined, “a girl can’t be president.”

At thirteen one of my fellow students was impregnated by a popular boy (not ironically, the same boy that was the leader of the anti-girl campaign in grade school).  She had an abortion and dropped out of school.  He continued to be one of the most popular boys throughout junior and senior high.

At sixteen I had the sudden realization that because I was a young woman, I was no longer safe.  I no longer had the reeling freedom of girldom.  I was now a sexual object and had to protect myself.  I could no longer walk the world alone and unafraid.  I am angry still at the need to be constantly vigilant in response to a violent misogynist culture.

In high school I was smart and opinionated; therefore labeled as “having a bad attitude” by the National Honor Society awards committee, even though my grades were excellent.

When I tested into English class in college, I was put in the “problem” class.  To his credit, my male professor said, “What in the world are you doing here?” and put me in English honors.  I tried to liven up a boring history class (where the male professor “taught” by the way of reading verbatim from his notes) by asking questions, and the professor first began ignoring me, and finally called me into his office to intimidate me into silence.

In graduate school I was told I was “relying on charm,” by a male professor, but given no advice as to what other skills I should be practicing.  The (male) chair of the department used to pet my head and say “pretty girl,” when he passed by me.

At my first real job, as the only woman at the table during the afternoon coffee breaks, I was frequently told not to “worry myself” over politics during our discussions.  I frequently went to dinner parties with colleagues where the conversations were segregated by gender, the women in the kitchen, the men in the living room.

In my current job, my colleagues often denigrate my “feminized” discipline.  I have a male boss who screamed “shut up!” at me in a public meeting, because I would not agree with him.  When I told him privately that his behavior was unacceptable, he did not apologize—his response was that he did what he needed to do to get me to stop talking.

Is it any wonder that I am "voicegal?"  Life has shown me a series of men and women telling me to shut up, shut down, do what I’m told, and disappear.  Thank God for the men and women who told me the opposite, who supported my voice in all its iterations (poetic, written, artistic, spoken, metaphorical) and allowed me to grow into the strong, independent woman I am today.  (I will post on this more positive outlook another time.)

I am not an angry feminist.  I am a feminist.  If it isn’t apparent from my words, I will say plainly that being treated this way all my life has caused me an inordinate amount of pain.  Pain that I have to process, overcome, make sense of, and then dispense the righteous anger it evokes before I can move on in a positive direction.  Anyone in a societal minority knows this pain, and knows how ridiculous it is for those in the majority to say that there is no inequality, when the majority does not have to process this pain and anger on a constant basis before they move on.

I am almost 50 years old.  These stories happened in the recent past, historically speaking.  Young people tell me that things have changed since then, but when I see Hillary Clinton pilloried for being “shrill,” or ridiculed for what she wears or how she does her hair (for god’s sake) I am not so sure.  Like inherent racism, we cannot change this beast until we all stop pretending that that the battle for equality is won.  May we all "teach our children well," as Lonnie Lazar writes on this subject.

 

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Be strong and get out of your own way. I know it's hard... I have had to face it, too. But I recognize where I once was complicit and now and forever refuse to be!! rated
Lisa, I have refused to be complicit most of my adult life, but it often feels like swimming against the tide. Thanks for reading.

Bonnie, thanks for starting this meme. I've spent most of my adult life working for equality, both gender and racial. There are lots of strategies to choose from for solutions, both personal and political, individual and global. Many work (oh so slowly), but the dominant culture has to accept that there is a problem before change can become pervasive. My meta-solution is in the text: "Like inherent racism, we cannot change this beast until we all stop pretending that that the battle for equality is won. " Thanks for reading.
You've nailed this. I'm sorry for your pain but glad it gave you a sense of perspective and the ability to value your own self. This is the meat, right here: "Like inherent racism, we cannot change this beast until we all stop pretending that that the battle for equality is won." Total. Truth.
Right on, girl. Academia is often worse in its mysogyny.
Thank you for your comment Sally. I hope it's clear to readers that I don't consider myself angry or in pain on a daily basis. I just wanted to respect the fact that misogyny isn't just "wrong," it causes pain. We can empathize with others' pain when we might not be able to sympathize with others' sense of "right and wrong."

o'stephanie, academia IS horrible because practices are so mired in tradition and tenure makes it impossible to fire bad apples.
Ahhhh, you've become as interesting and as strong as the man you were supposed to marry! My mother was like your mother. The swamp of misogyny is a painting waiting to be painted. Thanks for this.

And yes, men still tell us to "shut up" all the time.
Deborah, maybe one of the OS artists can paint the swamp for us. I am constantly amazed at the bad behavior my male colleagues feel entitled to. Thanks for reading.
You've suffered more severe misogyny than I, although I'm older than you. I'd hoped things were getting better. Keep letting us hear your voice.
You've dealt with a lot of assholes in your day, Voicegal. Sounds to me as though you came out on top.

You quoted a line from this blog in my thread: I am not an angry feminist. I am a feminist.

Good for you. I guess many…especially people with open minds…would call me a feminist also…although I happen to be male.

I thank you for inviting me here. The item I was dealing with in my essay was the tendency of some women to see misogyny in settings in which there is no misogyny. No one should have to deal with some of the things some women have had to deal with…and I am delighted we are making progress in this area.

I work for a very conservative county in New Jersey…and you would be amazed at how often we are lectured on constantly being mindful not to engage in any conduct that could even remotely be considered misogynistic…and the lectures seem always to come from the position of “because it is the right thing” rather than “it is the law.”

I’m proud of that.
Hawley, for better or worse, I've claimed my voice. ;)

Hawley and Frank, I wouldn't say I've experienced more misogyny than most. I think my experiences are probably pretty average. Hawley, I'm grateful that you escaped some of it.

Frank, thank you for reading. And it's GREAT that your workplace teaches these measures as "the right thing to do." My workplace teaches them as "how to avoid a lawsuit."
Your feelings are valid and I enjoyed reading your post. My biggest problem with all of the misogyny posts today is that most of them are confusing the fight for equal rights with misogyny. They are not the same thing by a long shot. In business, women are feared from a competition standpoint, but they are not hated.
R
Hmmm, Donna, we could probably have a conversation about this! It's one reason why the label "feminist" is not one size fits all. I might make the point that there would be no problem with gender equality if our society didn't have inherent misogyny in its systemic conditions. Sexist men may not hate women, but their entitlement to sexist behavior is based on a systemic hatred of women that allows such behavior. Chicken or egg?
This would make an interesting round table discussion. I look forward to it happening one day.
Thanks for sharing your perspective on this Voicegal.

"being treated this way all my life has caused me an inordinate amount of pain. Pain that I have to process, overcome, make sense of, and then dispense the righteous anger it evokes before I can move on in a positive direction."

That's something which I'll never experience, and which most of the people who say misognyny (and racism and etc.) is dead have never had to experience. It's still alive and well, both at the personal and institutional levels, and people who say otherwise are either deluding themselves or are in fact part of the problem.
Excellent, excellent . . . the world needs your voice - kudos for becoming voicegal!
I do see some of the office behavior you describe where I work, not as frequently,...but still alive and well.
It is not logical, but what hatred is?
Donna, maybe we should set up a live chat round table on "feminist perspectives." It's been done in the past!

nana, you caught the most important point. I read somewhere that women and people of color spend 40% of their productive work time processing the effects of discrimination in the workplace. That's an awful lot of wasted work potential. Which is why women and people of color feel they have to work twice as hard as their majority counterparts.

owl, we will rock on!
I'm humbly gratified by your link to my post vg. As I read this I kept thinking to myself, "you are the person I was writing about/for." The worst part of misogyny isn't its overt, violent, abusive manifestations -- not to diminish the damage those do -- it's the insidious, attitudinal misogyny we pass from one generation to the next by our failure to call it out and teach our children it's unacceptable to treat 'girls' as if they are somehow less than boys, or that they can't do anything they put their hearts and minds to.
In a reply to a comment on my post I stated Feminism as one of the causes of misogyny. Yours is definitely not in that definition of Feminism. I could tell even if you didn't say you were one; yours is the feminism acceptable to me.
~R
Aftershock, if you can, call people on that behavior. See my comment to nanatehay about how much work potential is lost by having to deal with that stuff.

Lonnie, your comment brought tears to my eyes. That is exactly the point-- not that I am a victim or hate men (boo hoo, blah blah blah), but that the soup we all swim in makes things difficult, in this case, for women.
This is so strong, so personal, so TRUE. Thank you so much for writing this. Being told to "shut up" -- check. Being discounted, check. Being told there is no problem and I am the problem, check.
Fusan, I hope you will post on your vision of "good" feminism.

Emma, being told that you are the problem is the worst. And so pervasive, hence why advice books are often geared to "women's problems." Thank you for reading.
rated for testifying
Roy, can I hear a witness?

Jane, would that I could. Thanks for coming by.
Dang, this was hard to read. So many similar experiences. So many bad feelings/memories associated with them.

Thank you for this.
Great writing, Voicegal! I was recently with a bunch of 30 year old boys. They were having so much fun. Eventually they included me and wow, I turned into a boy and realized how different is the world for them. (This was in Israel). The next day I read in an Israeli paper that those who are most suicidal or unhappy are women over 50. And that the happiest Israelis are young men in their 30's. So yes, I've had envy of men and fury at the disparity too. I look forward to your next essay about the better side of all this. I think there is female power but it's subtle and nothing like male power but it is there for the taking. Tricky stuff. Excellent writing! O, and thanks for adding Deborah Young and Lonnie Lazar, to give us all more context. Love!
wakingupslowly, let's stand on the shoulders of our ancestors and try to change this, one person at a time.

wendyo, thank you. Sometimes I wish all men had to spend a week in our (high heeled) shoes. Check out Greg Correll's blog "Can we Talk?" on this point of view. For a list of the "Misogyny project" posts, Kathy Riordan has graced us with an index:
http://open.salon.com/blog/kathy_riordan/2010/01/02/the_misogyny_project_-_an_index
As someone who has been a boss -

If you have problems with what your boss is saying, you tell him/her in private not in public. Contradicting your boss in public means you are a bad employee regardless of you being right or wrong.

You're damned lucky you weren't sacked on the spot and it would've had nothing to do with misogyny.
Well said voicegal. We have a long way to go indeed.
MarkinKentuckiana, I assume you're referring to the sentence "I have a male boss who screamed “shut up!” at me in a public meeting, because I would not agree with him." I work in a profession where disagreement is generally expected and encouraged in meetings as a means of finding more creative answers: civil free speech is honored in my profession. It's not a field where "what the boss says goes no questions asked." I've been a boss, too, and I understand acceptable work behavior. You might revisit that paragraph to see that the following sentence reads "When I told him privately that his behavior was unacceptable, he did not apologize—his response was that he did what he needed to do to get me to stop talking."

But hypothetically, why, if a boss felt free to scream at me in public (a very unprofessional behavior, wouldn't you agree?), would standing up for myself in public be considered a reason to be "sacked on the spot?" Are employees, regardless of their gender, not allowed to verbally protect themselves from bullies, just because the bullies are their bosses? The days that bosses can get away with these kinds of behaviors are rapidly diminishing.

What I find troubling is that after reading my blog, which used an employment anecdote as only a small part of its substance, that your response is an unfounded assumption that you think I was a bad employee. I suspect the anger you're expressing is about something else entirely.
grif, thank you for reading and commenting.
Well done, voicegal. Things have gotten better, but not really. My mother also told me I was "cursed with imagination." Can you imagine her saying that to a son?
Lea, "cursed with imagination." Wow. I'm so glad you took that "curse" and turned it to a blessing in your life.
Misogyny is alive and kicking all over the world, sometimes more brutal in its symptoms, sometimes more subtle in its waysl... This has been a very timely, honest, strong post. Thank you.
Kisses,
Marcela
Rated! And how far from earth is MartinKentuckia's home planet? Why would anyone want to work for someone they couldn't discuss and disagree with? Solutions are not found walking lock step over a cliff. Telling an employee to shut up is never acceptable in any setting public or private. Kind of a sophomoric method of handling a situation. I will cross post a bit later this evening VG and add some of my own experiences to the mix.
Oh, I just couldn't pass this one up! At first, as I was reading your post, I thought, Oh my goodness, I've been SLEEP POSTING again - I didn't remember writing this post, and yet, story after story reflected my own experiences, and even by the end of the post I was certain you and I had the same mother! (She of CHEERLEADER fame and the epitome of FEMININE CHARMS, she who was AGHAST to learn that I preferred to wear my brother's hand me down jeans rather than the lovely little Swiss polka dot dresses and lovely patent leather Mary Janes - see what I mean??). I did not see anger in your post. Indignation, yes. Anger, not so much. I saw a "voice" who has wearied of being told to be silent and don't want to take it NO more. Thanks for an open, heartfelt view into your world, into the world that many of us have shared, perhaps some of us share it still.