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DECEMBER 29, 2009 9:22PM

Disbelieve Global Warming At Your Peril

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"The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about. "  Dr. Wayne Dyer

OS member Snoreville Stuffingstocker's latest post asserts that the current concern over human-caused global warming is just a media driven panic because the media promulgated a similar panic over global cooling during the 1970s. He asserts that scientists today who believe that the combustion byproducts of industrial activity are causing global warming are not to be trusted because they once believed that an ice age was imminent.

Only they didn't. This is just another lazy, easily disproven anti-global warming disinformation ploy.

 "The notion that the 1970s scientific consensus was for impending global cooling is incorrect. In actuality, there were significantly more papers in the 1970s predicting warming than cooling."

"Most predictions of an impending ice age came from the popular press (eg - Newsweek, NY Times, National Geographic, Time Magazine). As far as peer reviewed scientific papers in the 1970s, very few papers (7 in total) predicted global cooling. Significantly more papers (42 in total) predicted global warming due to CO2. More on 1970s science..."

I used to listen to Lowell Ponte (referenced in Stuffingstocker's post as the author of a book predicting a coming ice age) on left wing KPFK radio in the '70s. Ponte isn't a scientist. While an educated layman can understand this subject, his book is hardly authoritative or reliable. W.M. Connelly, in his analysis of Ponte's book, writes, "Evidence for Ponte's inability to tell sense from nonsense (or at least to check speculative results) is his assertion (p70) that gravity is weakening in the universe, and that this is proved by the moon moving away from the earth at 4 cm/year." Ponte is a libertarian champion of laissez faire capitalism who now, not surprisingly, denies global warming. He's also a Newsmax.com pundit, which speaks volumes, none of them good.

Stuffingstocker also writes, "Since C02 is only half a percent of atmospheric gasses and only 5% of that is man made, there is nothing we could do to alter the atmosphere short of a nuclear war."

Wrong. "The overall rise is from just below 280 ppm (the “pre-industrial” value) to the present values above 360 ppm, an increase of a factor of 1.3. The logarithm of 1.3 is 0.11, that of 2 is 0.30." Or roughly a 30% increase. Unlike other atmospheric gases, CO2 traps heat. Without the CO2 in the atmosphere, the Earth would not retain much of the infrared radiation from the Sun that warms the Earth's surface. CO2 is hardly negligble, whatever its percentage of the total composition of the atmosphere.

This is simple science. C02 traps heat - We're generating rising levels of atmospheric CO2 - the Earth's temperature is rising.

There's another reason not to increase atmospheric CO2. The ocean acts as a carbon sink. The increase in atmospheric CO2 is acidifying the oceans. Fragile green plankton near the ocean's surface generate most of the oxygen in our atmosphere. Those plankton, as well as all life forms, exist in a narrow range of environmental conditions. We are altering those conditions at our peril.

We are gambling with our future and the continued existence of an ecosphere needed to keep the Earth habitable for humans.

And before anyone brigns up "Climategate," I refer you here and here

I'm done arguing about this. I will not waste any more time fencing with people whose only research consists in quote farming and recycling debunked arguments against global warming when even a cursory study of basic science and the available data lead inevitably to the conclusion that human activity is causing global warming. Science is about finding the best expanation that fits the facts about a given phenomenon. Those who continue to deny global warming who demonstrate no grasp of basic science and do nothing to educate themselves are beyond convincing. They will forever remain obstinately, willfully ignorant.

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I think this is just about my masterpiece for 2009.
I've wondered about the motives of the Deniers. Best I can come up with is that because their usual political opponents were early advocates of the risks of global warming, the right-wingers, by force of habit and reaction, felt impelled to reject it.

This explains their grasping-at-straws types of arguments. You've heard them:

1998 was warmer than this year
Look at the snowfall in Washington
The climate has always fluctuated
It's sunspots or solar flares. I read that somewhere.
Email data tricks.
The Pacific Ocean where I live hasn't risen
It's a plot to bring about World Government

There's never any consideration that maybe the Nobel scientists and virtually all nation science academies and governments are right. Then there's their use of the ad-hominems (Al Gore has a big house).

They never address the insurance issue. Simply put, if they buy fire insurance in the unlikely event that their house burns down, then why not spend on global warming insurance in the much more likely event that the planet becomes unliveable for huge masses of people.

So to me it's basically tribalism. Their tribe didn't think of it first so it must be rejected. Oh, and let's not forget the venal vested interests who'd lose some of their investments, or, perish the thought, be taxed on CO2 emissions.

Thanks for the post and keep fighting the good fight.
I think this is just about my masterpiece for 2009.

Well it certainly is one to be proud of…and I know how you feel when you write something that seems to come out exactly the way you wanted, so I can easily identify with it.

And, of course, you are correct. Anyone who disregards warnings in areas like this where our presence is damaging what may well be a very fragile environment…does so at extreme peril to the future. I see the same problem with people who do not see the great danger in cutting down vast quantities of rain forest.

Of course, that “extreme peril to the future” may be part of the answer to what Abrawang questioned in the first response. It sometimes amazes me the way some people can always think in terms of “hooray for me”…”screw you.”

They are, in effect, saying: What harm is there in denying the damage we are doing…it is not going to effect me…and I don’t much give a rat’s ass about anyone or anything that comes after me.

Glad there are people who rise above that…who have enough respect for the planet that they fight against such inappropriate complacency. Which is a back door way of saying: Yup, Peter, this is worthy of being considered a masterpiece.
I assume you are refering to this blog:

http://open.salon.com/blog/jimgalt/2011/02/04/the_ice_age_cometh

So snow in 49 of 50 states in february is incidental? So literally half the planet covered in snow means nothing? Global warming is about central world powers collecting a trillion in taxing and determining how fast third world countries can develop to slow competition. Time and Newsweek had covers on global cooling and the coming ice age. The evidence is simply any look at a 100,000 or 500,000 year chart shows that we are nearing an ice age, if minor one at first. That the planets own cycles dwarfs human effect. That the UN scientists have been caught cheating, after kicking out their head scientist on climate because he want convinced. Humans are responsible for a portion of C02, plants for most. CO2 is a fraction of the greehouse gasses, most just water vapor. What global warming does is mean Al Gores company can make 200 million on trading with his partners Goldman Sachs. It means some central power will get a trillion in taxes, like the IMF, Worlld Bank. It means the peopke funding the studies and schools, bankers, the Rockefellaw Foundation are approaching their goal of world governing body they hav stated for so long. One government controlling land resources is huge. And a sad farce. The planet has been cooling for 3 years. Closing rural measuring sites and leaving urbab ones will only work for so long.

http://www.iceagenow.com/

In the past few years people has have been freezing to death in India and China. Brazil has had catastrophic snow. The entire South was under snow fall in February. 49 of 50 states,. The globalists are lying, the universities firing annyone who questions it. But anyone with comon sense can see whats happening below the Mason Dixon. A foot of snow in fucking Dallas, so bad it almost stopped the Superbow. Fucking Dallas, You are gullible.

http://www.iceagenow.com/2010—where_does_it_fit_in_the_warmest_year_list-9099th.htm

Why would anyone lie? Who would want a trillion in taxes and control over development over the planet. Oh, I dont know. Anyone.
Help, the planet will warm 2 degrees the next century ending life on earth when everyone bursts into flames. Send money.

http://iceagenow.com/Most_of_Northern_Hemisphere_covered_by_snow_and_ice.htm