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JUNE 1, 2009 11:07AM

A depressing proposal

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In a sane society, the absurdity of “screening” for depression would immediately be apparent. You mean, you don’t know how you feel? And if you really don’t know, doesn’t that mean you need to spend some time in open and honest consultation with yourself?

Nevertheless, the US Preventive Services Task Force, a part of the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality of the US Department of Health and Human Services, has recommended screening adolescents between the ages of 12 and 18 for depression. The Task Force based its recommendation on a systematic evidence review published in Pediatrics by Dr. Selvi B. Williams and his colleagues. A press release by the Task Force notes that “Depressed children and adolescents are at an increased risk of suicide, which is the third-leading cause of death among people aged 15 to 24 and the sixth-leading cause of death among those age 5 to 14.”

That’s an odd point to bring up, since the article by Williams et al. acknowledge that the treatment of choice for depression, Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, or SSRI’s, more than double the occurrence of “suicide-related adverse events” (i.e., suicidal ideation and suicide attempts). No actual suicides were observed in the studies cited by Williams et al., but a review Dr. David Healy and Chris Whitaker found that SSRI’s more than doubled not just the occurrence of suicide-related events but of actual suicides.

Odder still, the article by Williams et al. found no evidence that screening adolescents for depression resulted in more adolescents being treated for depression, let alone any evidence of improved clinical outcomes. Has the maxim First Do No Harm been replaced with Why The Hell Not?

 The press release does contain some cautionary words, that screening should be performed “only when appropriate systems are in place to ensure accurate diagnosis, treatment and follow-up care.” Reminds me of those advertisements for cholesterol-lowering drugs, which contain just enough lip service to diet and exercise to deflect criticism. You really think the drug companies give a crap if you exercise and eat sensibly?

 

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It’s hard to imagine this as anything more than a ploy to drum up some more business for the drug companies. Not that they don’t have plenty already. According to the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, 11% of all women and 5.4% of all men in the non-institutionalized population in the United States take antidepressant drugs. So it’s a pretty good guess that some of the people reading this are taking antidepressant medication. I have found that many people taking antidepressants take it as a terrible insult if anyone suggests that most depression might not properly be regarded as a medical problem.

If you are one of those people, I offer for your consideration another point of view: the drug companies may not necessarily have your best interest at heart.

If you say you took antidepressant drugs and felt better, I have no reason to doubt your word. But that, in and of itself, proves nothing. The placebo effect is well-known to science. How do you know you wouldn’t have done just as well taking a sugar pill? For that matter, depression can be (often is) a self-limiting condition. People get depressed, and then find within themselves the inner strength to carry on. How do you know that’s not what happened in your case?

The only way to resolve these questions is through placebo-controlled, clinical trials. But herein lies another problem. In a paper published in BMJ, Dr. Hans Melander and his colleagues reviewed all 42 placebo-controlled clinical trials of five SSRI’s submitted to the Swedish Drug Authority as a basis for marketing approval. 21 of these studies showed the drugs performed significantly better than a placebo and 21 did not. 19 of the 21 studies which found statistically significant benefits were published, while only six of the 21 which did not were published. In plain English, the drug industry routinely buries negative results. Even the most conscientious doctor cannot give you unbiased information if the journals he relies on are biased.

To help rectify this situation, Dr. Irving Kirsch and his colleagues used a Freedom of Information Act Request to obtain data on all clinical trials submitted to the US Food and Drug Administration for the licensing of four commonly prescribes SSRI’s: fluoxetine (trade name Prozac), venlafaxine (brand name Effexor), nefazodone (trade name Serzone), and paroxetine (trade name Paxil). Tens of millions of prescriptions are written for these drugs every year.

Kirsch et al. analyzed the data for all the clinical trials, both published and unpublished, and found that overall these drugs were NO BETTER THAN A PLACEBO when it came to treating major depression. Only for the small minority of patients, at the upper end of the most severely depressed range, were these drugs found to produce clinically significant benefits (and rather meager ones, at that). The full text of the study, published by the Public Library of Science, is available here.

These results are about what anybody with any experience with life as it is lived could have predicted. Mental illness is real. There is a tiny subset of patients who really do have something out of whack with their brain chemistry, and who can derive a benefit (albeit often a small one) from psychotropic medication. But for most of us, it’s just a matter of taking responsibility for our lives, of finding the strength to change what we can and to accept what we cannot change.

Even modest lifestyle changes can have profound effects on major depression. In a study published in Psychosomatic Medicine, Dr. Michael Bayak and his colleagues compared the effects of sertraline (trade name Zoloft) and exercise on a group of patients over 50 years of age, all diagnosed with major depression. None of these patients had any medical condition that would prevent regular exercise. Patients were randomly assigned to three groups. One group was treated with sertraline; one group took 30 minutes of aerobic exercise, three times a week; and the third group got both sertraline and regular exercise. Patients in the exercise group fared better than either those who received medication or, perhaps surprisingly, those who received medication and exercise.

Treatment with mind-altering drugs ought to be considered a last resort, reserved only for the tiny subset of the most severely depressed patients and/or those whose depression has not responded to lifestyle changes. Otherwise, we will never get around to addressing the personal, familial, and societal problems that cause people to feel depressed and alienated.

Unfortunately, the drug companies cannot make obscenely huge profits by selling to a tiny number of patients. Once they have a drug on the market, there is relentless pressure to expand the boundaries of illness, to pathologize more and more of normal human variation. For more information about how this process works, see the book Selling Sickness by Ray Moynihan and Alan Cassels.

If you think about it, clinical depression couldn’t possibly be as common as the drug companies want us to believe. Our Paleolithic ancestors trekked hundreds of miles in search of game, ran down woolly mammoths, and battled giant cave bears – not to mention each other. They didn’t lie down and say, “I’m too depressed to go on,” – and if any of them did, they got weeded out of the gene pool. We were meant to thrive.

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Are there any fellow geezers out there who remember when adults told young people, Get High On Life, Not Drugs? Now granted, that advice usually came from people whose drugs of choice were tobacco and hard liquor, just about the two worst drugs there are. On the other hand, hypocrisy is the homage that vice pays to virtue. The advice was perfectly sound.

Since time immemorial, it was taken for granted that it was an individual’s responsibility to cultivate the internal and external resources to deal with adversity. Within the space of a lifetime, that idea has come to be regarded as utterly ludicrous, on a par with a belief in unicorns. What has happened to us?

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About 3 years ago, I had a reactive depression to being buried under a series of very difficult events over a short period of time. Short-term counseling would have been very beneficial to helping me get back to an even keel; however, since I wasn't suicidal or on drugs, Kaiser would only allow me one visit a month, clearly not adequate. They did, however, happily offer me medication. Mental health is the single most neglected area of health care in the U.S., and the drugs you mention have allowed both insurance companies and HMOs to feel that they are off the hook. Big pharma is indeed the Devil incarnate. Rated and reddited.
Our feelings evolved for a reason. If you are unhappy, that almost always means there is something wrong in your life that you need to fix -- even if it's just our unwillingness to accept that some problems can't be fixed.

Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
It's no secret around here I've suffered with depression and i've worked with many patients who suffered terribly from depression and all its co-conspirators. Medication does help many; it also does nothing for many. The paradox comes with treatment. Children are at great risk with ssri's. Therapy is complicated. But I cry for children who suffer. --rated--
Interesting article. Too bad you're wrong.

"Treatment with mind-altering drugs ought to be considered a last resort, reserved only for the tiny subset of the most severely depressed patients and/or those whose depression has not responded to lifestyle changes."

Mild depression responds to lifestyle changes--moderate and severe depression generally do not--and they are not a "tiny subset" of the depressed population.

I'm not advocating putting SSRIs in the water, but your broad-stroke argument doesn't really reflect the science, IMHO.
To Mr. Mustard:

If we had a single-payer system, as they do in the UK and Canada, with someone responsible for maximizing patient outcomes, then we could concentrate on getitng these medications to those who really could benefit from them. And as I've made clear in previous posts, were already paing enough in taxes for health care for single payer.

Thanks for helping to put a huamn face on the problem.
To Hell's Bells:

Depending on which source you consult, I've seen "major depression" defined as a HRDS score of anything from 13 to 18. According to the meta-analysis of Kisrch et al., only patients with a HRDS score of 28 or above demonstrated clinically significant improvement with SSRI's. I e-mailed Kisrch and asked him what per cent of patients had scores over 28, and he replied that he didn't have any specific figure. If you have any data on the matter, I be happy to take a look at them.

Oh and by the way, I forgot to mention that the benfits of placebos are in fact underestimated, since all trial included a washout period of one to two weeks, in which all subjects are given a placebo. Any subject who demonstrates an improvement of more than 20% on his HRSD score is excluded from the trial.

Thanks for you comment.
Great piece. I am on medication for bi-polar disorder and well, I need it but I have a terrible irrational fear that there are those dispicable people out there that want our next generation to be as calm and happy as possible so that they cause no harm, no trouble, no rebellion, no freedom to think, feel and speak. There is nothing more dangerous to an addict than a good commercial.
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To micalpeace:

Thanks for helping to put a human face on the problem. I'm all in favor of those who can benefit from medication getting it, but if psychotropic drugs become our first resort rather than our last resort, then there is no incentive for people to address dysfunction, either in their personal lives or in society as a whole. Just thinking about that prospect makes me depressed.

Thanks for your comment.
And I'd further like to point out that, even considering only those patients with HRSD scores of 28 or higher, all Kirsch's meta-analysis demonstrated was that SSRI's were (slightly) more effective than a dummy pill. The study did not address whether they were superior to lifestyle modifications such as exercise, dietary changes, or addressing the problem which caused the depression in the first place.

I've heard of people taking prozac for money worries. Sheesh. Talk about missing the point.

Again, thanks to everybody for your comments.
Very good stuff. If we were to sit down with the budget and redirect some our money from redistributing wealth to the wealthy, we'd have money for healthcare...infrastructure, etc.

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Science is the new religion, no doubt about it. The thought process seems to be, "If only we can find a scientific answer then we'll have the true solution!" It certainly would make life easier if we really were nothing but walking bags of chemicals - but that's the nature of religion: to believe a lie that makes you feel better.

Though I'm never far from it, there was a time I was very close to suicide. The answer they gave me was Prozac and I wrote about it here. I don't trust those who say we have no soul or that if we do we can fix it with a pill. You can't fix anything if you're not interested in the truth first.
Sorry to say, but depression is all too real. I have struggled with it my whole life. I started taking meds a few years ago which has helped a great deal. It doesn't erase the problem, but it does allow me to go about my daily life in disguise as a normal person. Placebos ain't doin' nothing here. There are enough antidepressants on the market that if one doesn't work, you can try others until you find one suited for your imbalance.

And it's not about not overcoming adversity. Look up the term "anhedonia." When you can't find pleasure in anything, including your favorite things, you have a problem. When you feel like shit for no reason, you have a real problem.
Got to push the drugs - amazing how the pharmaceutical companies, doctors and big biz health care can talk us into all kinds of mental and physical diseases to push drugs and other treatments and procedures to make money at our physical, mental and financial expense...while making us more helpless and dependent.
"brave new world" and Soma has been realized with psych drugs.
the number of ppl taking mental drugs is staggering. 1/10 women? unbelievable.
I have a theory that modern society is getting a little too artificial for human consumption/toleration.. and that the skyrocketing mental disorders are related to unhealthy life. too much stress just to live day to day in modern culture. this would be proven somewhat if antidepression drug sales go up in a recession, which I suspect may be the case, it stands to reason right?
to call all this a blight on modern culture is an understatement.
yes I too wonder if it is almost a mass reorganization of society underway by the "powers that be"....
To nurseliz:

I don't need to look up "anhedonia." I've experienced it. And I can tell you, the times in my life when I felt most depressed correlated exactly with my failing to take responsibility to arrange my life to get what I wanted. Now you can always say, "Aha! Then it wasn't really depression," but that's just taking your initial premise and calling it a conclusion.

Surely as a nurse you will recognize that anecdotes are not data. Have you any data that these drugs provide more than a small benefit to a small subset of patients? And that still begs the question of whether they wouldn't be better off with exercise or other lifestyle changes. Consider the study by Bayak et al. that showed that ninety minutes of aerobic exercise a week is better than Zoloft. Given the billions of dollars a year spent on antidepressants in this country, why wasn't that front-page news?
Thanks to all for your kind remarks. I fully expected to be deluged by hate mail for writing this. Maybe there is hope for the human species yet.
Patrick, I actually missed this the first time, but saw it at Reddit! I plan to have my 19-year-old read this. I think he needs to hear the down side before he embraces antidepressants as the sole fix for his lifelong malaise. My husband is a (nonprofessional) student of Albert Ellis and REBT and in fact spent two weeks in New York City helping Ellis organize his papers in April 2006, a year before Ellis died. I urge anyone with an interest in depression and the excellent self-help that is available to visit the REBTnetwork website. There are some great online self-help forms there that can be found in the links in the righthand column, as well as an eBook available for free (which Will wrote.) (I wish my son would pay more attention to the wisdom of his stepdad, but as many parents will agree, teens often don't want to listen to their parents.)
To Cindy:

Thank you for your kind words.

You know, people always think you're trivializing their pain when you suggest that most depression is not properly regarded as a medical problem, but that's missing the point. Life is painful. We all know that. We're here, without any explanation, on a planet populated by fellow creatures ruled by their own selfish desires, in a vast universe operating in remorseless obedience to the laws of physics. We don't know what we face at death -- probably annihilation. So yeah, life can be painful. We can have compassion for our fellow creatures, without believing the drug industry propaganda that the solution to all of life's tribulations can be found in pill form.

Hmmm, I think I feel another post coming on...
Thanks for this well presented piece of work.
It's probably my impatience which has kept me from falling into the psycho-med trap, heck, if I've got to wait 2-4 weeks to feel the effects...what's gonna get me throught that?
Laughter. Watching 'What about Bob?'.
And seeing several very dear friends who were taking ssri's not get really down, but also not get really happy.
I appreciate the effort you put into this post. Self-pity had kept me up most of the night, fatigue exaggerated everything to the point of hopelessness this morning, but reading this reassured me that I'm not alone.
Thanks.
To Old Gold:

Thank you for your kind words.

I suppose it ought to be like using a mobility scooter -- if you really can't walk, then of course you should get a scooter. But if you can walk, and just don't feel like expending the effort, then obviously getting a scooter will just turn you into a cripple. I am appalled that so many of my fellow citizens seem so eager to turn themselves into emotional cripples.
Patrick-

Maybe they're simply desperately lonely, insecure, and unwitting saps for highly sophisticated advertising. Some of those commercials are really seductive and I just love the print ads that conclude with "...talk to your doctor about whether ______ is right for you."

PS: you're welcome. maybe that's the root of the problem- not enough kind words (and thoughts) going around.