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AUGUST 25, 2009 11:10PM

Healthcare, breast cancer, and "benefits-eligible" employees

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Here’s an article in the New York Times which exemplifies so much of what is wrong with our nation’s healthcare system – and the debate on how to fix it.

The article profiles 62-year-old Bob Collier, a sort of everyman from rural Georgia who spoke at Rep. Sandford D. Bishop Jr.’s town hall meeting on healthcare reform. He told the story of his wife, two years younger than he, who was diagnosed with breast cancer. Mr. Collier and his wife had excellent health insurance coverage via his employer, Buccaneer Inc., which paid for his wife’s biopsy and three surgeries. She also had radiation therapy, which insurance refused to cover, labeling it “experimental,” but the hospital waived the $63,000.00 bill for that.

Today his wife is alive and well. Collier spoke of his fear that his wife would be denied life-saving treatment if healthcare reform was enacted and her disease were to return. “She’d be on a waiting list,” he said. He also spoke of his fear that healthcare reform would benefit “lazy and irresponsible people who play the system.”

Now, I don’t want to caricature Mr. Collier and his wife. They both sound like decent, hard-working people. I just wish the reporter had probed him to determine whether he realizes the extent to which his health care is subsidized by others.

For starters, there is the matter of the hefty tax deduction he gets for his employer-based insurance, which is paid for by people who lack such coverage (like, oh, say, me, for example), and who must either purchase their health insurance with after-tax dollars or go without. I’d also like to know how many temps and contractors and free-lancers and consultants and part-timers Buccaneer Inc. employs sans benefits, so it can afford to pay for health insurance for its “benefits-eligible” employees like Mr. Collier.

(As an aside, has anyone besides me noticed the proliferation of that odious term, “benefits-eligible employee?” It has replaced the terms “full-time employee” and “permanent employee” in the lexicon of the human resources munchkins. So you could have been working for the same outfit for fifteen years, you could be working more than a full-time job, but you aren’t eligible for benefits because you’re not “benefits-eligible.” Allrighty, then.)

Then there’s that little matter of the $63,000.00 bill for radiation that was waived. Wonder how many other patients the same hospital has pushed over the edge into bankruptcy since Mrs. Collier was diagnosed with breast cancer?

And of course, in a couple of short years the Colliers will be eligible for our nations’ socialized healthcare system for the elderly, and the taxpayers will be picking up the entire tab.

I also wish the reporter had pursued the question of whether Mrs. Collier is alive and well because of her cancer treatment, or in spite of it. The article didn’t say how her cancer was detected. If it was detected via a routine mammogram, then almost certainly her “cancer” was some tiny, slow-growing neoplasm which never would have bothered her until she died of something completely unrelated.

Still, I don’t begrudge Mr. Collier and his wife any medical intervention which could help them live to a ripe old age. I just don’t see why he is so determined that other people not have the same advantage.

The fact is, we are an insanely overmedicated nation. And I freely admit that extending the same level of overmedication to everyone would break the bank. But that’s not what I have in mind at all.

What I have in mind is a system like that of the UK, in which everyone is covered, and medical interventions are evaluated on the basis of evidence. Those which do not produce robust clinically significant benefits are not indemnified.

Yes, I’m advocating rationing health care. But we already do. Every economic system is, at bottom, a system for rationing goods and services, because our desires are infinite and our ability to satisfy them is not. The question is not Are we going to ration health care, but rather, Are we going to ration health care on the basis of evidence, or on the basis of who has the most money to pay lobbyists to find ways to leverage other people’s tax dollars?

Right now, 58% of health care expenses in this country are paid for by the taxpayers. That's more than total expenditures on health care in all but three other countries. That would be enough to indemnify everybody in this country at the same level they do in the UK, with billions left over.

And that would be plenty good for me. It’s got to be better than our present system, which plies some people (notably the elderly) with all sorts of medical interventions of dubious value, while every year thousands of people die due to lack of medical care and hundreds of thousands are driven into bankruptcy by our Medical-Industrial Complex.

But then again, who cares? They probably weren’t “benefits-eligible” anyway.

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An assumption shared by almost everyone in this debate seems to be that when it comes to health care, more is always better. We'll never get anywhere until we challenge that assumption.
She also had radiation therapy, which insurance refused to cover, labeling it “experimental,” but the hospital waived the $63,000.00 bill for that.

Really radiation therapy is experimental? Pleeze. I wonder if Mr Collier realizes what a bullet he dodged there, had the hospital not waived the bill, he would have gone broke paying that bill. Excellent health care my ass
What do you call it when insurance companies require that your care be pre-approved?

HEALTH CARE RATIONING!
I agree, the double standard people don't realize they're offering up is getting ridiculous. People love their Medicare but won't offer the same to others. They love their employee-based health insurance but don't realize that the moment they lose their job, it doesn't matter how much they've paid in. And they're so afraid they might actually have to help someone else that they'll fight anything that resembles a social program, even though the current reform is not about free health care and people will still have to buy the option. The whole concept of rationed care, waiting lines, and denied care is already happening, yet they talk about it as a theoretical situation they're heading off. Makes me want to bang my head against the wall!
terror breeds ignorance
To Kathy:

Isn't it the other way around?

I didn't want to demonize Mr. Collier, but the more I thought about it, the harder a time I have distinguishing between his attitude and "I got mine, screw everybody else." And he seems to have no desire to consider how much his wife's health care is subsidized by everybody else.
You're wrong on breast cancer. The Merck manual states that the majority of breast cancers are invasive -- they spread beyond the breast tissue. If breast cancer has not spread, your chances of living more than 10 years are 80%. If it has spread, your chances start dropping fast.

I think you're confusing breast cancer with prostate cancer. The majority of prostate cancers are slow-growing and non-invasive. A man is certainly more likely to die with prostate cancer than of it,
but a 60 y.o. woman has a high risk of a shortened life if breast cancer is not caught and cured promptly.

Her mammogram may well have saved her life.
To Malushinka:

I'm not thinking of prostate cancer (although screening for prostate cancer has been shown to be equally useless).

A meta-analysis published by the Cochrane Collaboration found that for every two thousand women screened for breast cancer, one would be spared death from breast cancer, while ten would be unnecessarily diagnosed and treated for cancers that never would have bothered them until they died of something unrelated. So I will stand behind what I said -- chances are better than nine out of ten that this cancer never would have bothered her until she died of something else.

Anyway, in evaluating screening programs, the only statistic that matter is all-cause mortality. What difference does it make if you die of breast cancer at 70 -- or you die of something else AT THE EXACT SAME TIME? We all have to die of something. And the same meta-analysis showed NO DIFFERENCE IN OVERALL DEATH RATE between women who were screened for breast cancer and those who were not.

If mammography did save her life, then she is a statistical outlier -- and public policy decisions cannot be made on the basis of statistical outliers.
If you feel fine, that almost always means you are fine. And even if you are harboring the beginnings of some terrible cancer, it'snot a foregone conclusion that the medical profession can do anything about it.

Fifty years ago, a person who felt fine who was worried that she might have some terrible disease would have been called a hypochondriac. We've turned into a nation of hypochondriacs. I find this endless fearful obsession people have with cancer screening, cholesterol numbers, etc. so damn puny -- especially since most people can't be bothered to do the free things which have been proven to promote health and longevity -- exercising, eating sensibly, and refraining from smoking and excess drinking.
Here's the meta-analysis:

http://mrw.interscience.wiley.com/cochrane/clsysrev/articles/CD001877/frame.html

Thanks for commenting.
To Malushinka:

Did you notice you quoted the big pharma corp. MERCK?
Think about it, they make the treatments, the testing and THE BOOK about the disease, all at the same time.
How coincidental that they cover all sides of the cancer picture.
They also teach the doctors in medical school and the pharmacist too.
They write the manuals and they promote the drugs.
And the diseases are only viewed from the results they get from their drugs!
Of course they say that if you don't get treated you'll die.
They don't say that if they treat you, you'll be dead sooner.
His wife didn't beat the odds, she's just in remission for now. I wish her well, but she would have been better off not being treated at all.
The cancer drugs cause other cancers, radiation also causes cancer in time, just somewhere else.
I hope her husband realizes that his "good insurance" really didn't do him any favors. Of course the hospital waived the $63000 for radiation, it's an investment in the future for more "approved" treatments later down the line when the cancer returns with a vengeance.
Then he'll find out that they don't pay for non-conventional treatments that do work and without side effects.
So, they'll go thru all rounds of chemo and whatever else they can think of until she is either too weak for any more or she decides to take her chances and quit because she's tired of suffering.
They will call it a success and then send her home to die.
Maybe nobody told him that this was one of the benefits of the "good insurance" he had?
If they considered radiation too experimental to pay for, his wife has no other options that they will cover, so no holistic care for her.
And he calls this good?
When I Googled the Cochrane study, I read that it concluded that one out of 3 cancers were over-diagnosed through screening -- a far cry from your 9 out of 10.

I also read that there have been questions about its methodology as many other studies that have demonstrated the benefits of screening.

With breast cancer, by the time you feel it, it has spread and is hard to eradicate. My grandmother died of metastatic breast cancer and her last year of life was a lot of pain.

By contrast, my mother never noticed hers. It's out, it was too small to metastasize and the chemo gives her no side effects. Radiation was tiring, but it's over and she's an energetic 8o yo.

And Diva, it's news to me that there's any non-conventional cure for breast cancer. But, as I said, the most common drug, Tamofaxen typically causes no side effects.
To Malushinka:

I am happy your mother is alive and well. But surely as a nurse you will recognize the importance of data, not anecdotes, in making these decisions.

Here's the paragraph from the conclusions of the study by Gotshce and Nielsen:

"...for every 2000 women invited for screening throughout 10 years, one will have her life prolonged. In addition, 10 healthy women, who would not have been diagnosed if there had not been screening, will be diagnosed as breast cancer patients and will be treated unnecessarily. "

So according to their data, chances are 10 to 1 that this woman's "cancer" never would have bothered her until she died of something unrelated. And if she is the one out of 2,000 women screened who is spared death from breast cancer, then she is a statistical outlier -- and you cannot make public policy decisions on the basis of statistical outliers.

The only statistic that means anything is mortality from all causes. What difference does it make if you die of breast cancer at the age of 70, or you die of something else at the exact same time?

If you know of any studies that show that breast screening results in a clinically significant reduction in all-cause mortality, I'd be happy to take a look at them.
To Malushinka:

The proponents of screening like repeat the mantra: "Breast cancer is highly treatable if detected early." Of course it is. That's because when they employ these imaging technologies, they detect and treat large number of tiny, slow-growing "cancers" which never would have bothered the woman until she died of something else. So of course the five-year and ten-year survival rates go up. That doesn't have anything to do with enabling anyone to live any longer.